September 8, 2014

Who makes minimum wage?

federal minimum wage over time

Given the continuing campaigns by unions, workers, politicians and others to raise the federal minimum wage, it bears asking: Just who are minimum-wage workers, anyway?

Perhaps surprisingly, not very many people earn minimum wage, and they make up a smaller share of the workforce than they used to. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, last year 1.532 million hourly workers earned the federal minimum of $7.25 an hour; nearly 1.8 million more earned less than that because they fell under one of several exemptions (tipped employees, full-time students, certain disabled workers and others), for a total of 3.3 million hourly workers at or below the federal minimum.

That group represents 4.3% of the nation’s 75.9 million hourly-paid workers and 2.6% of all wage and salary workers. In 1979, when the BLS began regularly studying minimum-wage workers, they represented 13.4% of hourly workers and 7.9% of all wage and salary workers. (Bear in mind that the 3.3 million figure doesn’t include salaried workers, although BLS says relatively few salaried workers are paid at what would translate into below-minimum hourly rates. Also, 23 states, as well as the District of Columbia, have higher minimum wages than the federal standard; people who earned the state minimum wage in those jurisdictions aren’t included in the 3.3 million total.)

People at or below the federal minimum are:

  • Disproportionately young: 50.4% are ages 16 to 24; 24% are teenagers (ages 16 to 19).
  • Mostly (77%) white; nearly half are white women.
  • Largely part-time workers (64% of the total).

minimum wage workers by occupational groupThey’re employed in the industries and occupations you might expect: More than half (55%) work in the leisure and hospitality industry, about 14% in retail, 8% in education and health services, and the rest scattered among other industries. Broken down occupationally, the picture is similar: Nearly 47% are in food-preparation and serving-related occupations; 14.5% are in sales and related occupations, 7% in personal care and service occupations, and the rest are scattered.

They’re also more likely to live in the South than anywhere else – in part because only one southern state (Florida) has its own higher state minimum wage. In both the West South Central (Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana) and East South Central (Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee) regions, 6.3% of hourly workers make the federal minimum or less — the highest rates among the nine Census Bureau-defined regions. They were followed by the eight-state (plus D.C.) South Atlantic region, where 5.1% of hourly workers made the federal minimum or less. The lowest rate, 1.5%, was in the Pacific region – not surprising, given that four of the five states in that region (California, Oregon, Washington and Alaska) have their own, higher state minimums.

Economists continue to debate the extent to which minimum-wage laws reduce poverty, income inequality and/or overall employment. What’s clear, though, is that after a three-step increase in 2007-09, today’s minimum wage buys more than it did recently, but its real purchasing power is about where it was in the early 1980s — and below its late-1960s peak.

Note: This post has been updated with 2013 data.

Topics: Economics and Personal Finances, National Economy

  1. Photo of Drew DeSilver

    is a senior writer at Pew Research Center.


  1. Robert Pinardi1 year ago

    Who makes min wage.. Mostly Kids make min wage. over 50% of those making min wage are under the age of 24. Largest number between age 16 and 19. Raising min wage does nothing but set a new level for the lowest paid people in America.. Make it $100 an hour. And they will still be “THE POOR”. Cost quickly rise to meet the new labor expense. Not only that..If you don’t get a raise when the Min Wage increases. You get a pay cut. If you have worked your way up from the lowest wage to say $15 an hour. Now the Min is $15 an hour. Your back at the bottom again. Starting over.

  2. Anonymous1 year ago

    If you have worked your way up to say making $15 an hour.. And all of a sudden you are back at Min Wage. You got a pay cut.. Mandatory Min wage increases cut more people’s wages than they increase. If you are on fixed income. you get a pay cut.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      Try again. This time, take an economics class first. When the bottom earners are valued higher, everyone on the lower end is as well. Those making $15 an hour will be reevaluated based on the increased market value for their position. It happens all the time.

      Giving the bottom earners more money also gives them the ability to put more money into local markets. They are far more likely to spend the money and keep the money velocity higher than a higher income earner that is more likely to save.

      1. Macrant Hunter1 year ago

        Those making $15/hour will be reevaluated based on the increased cost of labor. It will be harder, not easier to qualify for the same job since it costs employer more. If you had a job for $13/hour yesterday and wages increase to 15 today you may well be fired as an under-performer. Increasing the cost of labor is NOT the same thing as increasing wages. As the cost of labor rises, the employers will look for higher quality labor for their hourly dollar. THIS is economics 101. Further more money in the pockets of the minimum wage earner does not increase money in local markets since the money in his or her pockets CAME from those same local markets. Net gain zero. All you are doing is increasing spending velocity. The amount and value of the dollar stays the same. You can’t just “create” wages. Wages *must* come from 1)Increased labor value 2)Increased labor demand or 3)Decreased dollar value. Just paying people more for no reason either devalues the dollar or pulls spending from other areas depending on how the pay increase is financed.

  3. Anonymous1 year ago

    Now, compare that to GDP and watch the stuff hit the fan. Labor produces the growth in this country and accounts for an average of .15 on the dollar earned. I think that’s way too little. If we took labor on a nationwide strike, I think business might see it a little more clearly as well.

    If I cut your lawn for $100 using my buddy’s lawn mower, do I only deserve to keep $15 for my effort? That’s what the current business climate looks like. Is what it is, my capitalist friends. You can either pay labor better and let the economy recover on the backs of a hard-working middle class or you can wait until the market for your goods is all overseas. Either way, you’re the ones that pay in the end.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      Your example is overly simplistic. Did you purchase the mower or pay to maintain it? Did you put gas in it? Did you pay to advertise the business or secure the client so you have a yard to mow? Are you going to deal with any customer issues related to potential dissatisfaction of service? Did you agree to do the job for $15? How about insurance, did you buy business insurance in case of property damage or injury? Labor is not the only cost associated with doing business. You make it seem like you get $15 and your buddy gets to keep $85, which is simply not the case.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        Lol your reply is beautiful

  4. my name is jeff2 years ago

    I m doing a project on whether or not to raise minimum wage what do you guys think?

    1. Eric Hadley-Ives1 year ago

      Research on the effects of minimum wage increases suggest that: modest increases in the minimum wages during times of relative economic stability have a slight (trivial) influence on employment (slightly fewer jobs available to the lowest-skilled workers) and either no influence or else a trivial inflationary influence on prices, but have a modest (non-trivial) influence on increasing consumption of those earning the lowest wages. Since many more people enjoy an improvement in their standard-of-living due to modest increases to the minimum wage than suffer from unemployment as a result, it’s clear that the net effect is beneficial. Raising the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to, say, $9.75 over a five-year period (50 cents per year, and then indexing the federal minimum wage to the consumer price index from there on) would stimulate the economy, improve the lives of 4-6 million low-income wage earners, and cause only very slight decreases in job demand for low-skilled workers. It should be done. Should we suddenly increase the minimum wage to $12 or $15 all at once? Look to the influence of such wage increases in certain cities as you consider your answer, but remember that rapid large increases in the minimum wage in, say, San Francisco or Seattle might have different results than such increases would have in, say, rural Alabama or small-town Missouri.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        Why would a sharp increase in min wage reduce jobs more in high income areas than low income areas?? That is irrational. There would be MORE retail/food service jobs lost in a low income area as it would be harder for customers to absorb the price increases so they would shop/eat out less. Wealthy Seattlites can afford to pay an extra $5-$15 per meal out or an extra $10 for a weeks groceries.

        1. Anonymous1 year ago

          Considering it is the low income people who work a double job or additional overtime to make ends meet. It is these people that don’t have the time to cook and must eat out if they want to eat and sleep before returning to work

      2. Anonymous1 year ago

        I agree. My co. starts at $13/HR and we never stop trying to recruit. We never have enough school bus drivers, we provide free training, pay for DOT physicals, offer safety bonuses. But no one WANTS a part time job 25-30 hours a week. They’d rather sit home and collect unemployment. So raising minimum wage imo won’t help one bit. All you’re doing is over paying a teenager fresh out of high school to work at fast food restaurants and local seasonal farm markets. That also means I have to increase the pay of my 100 other employees. They get an increase but my co only gets CPI increase which next school year 16/17 is 0.57%! Does not even cover employee increases! So……

  5. Frank2 years ago

    Doesn’t it boil down to the minimum wage no matter how much it is raised will always be just that – the minimum. All the conditions that are present for those as well as all of us will remain the same. The conditions of those in minimum wage or low paying jobs is created because the pool of applicants who can preform that job is large and unfortunately the fact is that no matter what you or I think the job should pay, it is determined by what people are willing to work under those conditions.

    As a person adds more skill, education or both the pool of those capable of doing the work gets smaller and employers find that they must pay more for that talent to get quality employees. You are your most important asset you need to be the best at what you do in not only skill but all factors of work. The bottom line is that if you are not appreciated hone your skills and move on to something or someplace that does.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      Which would be great if there weren’t a limited number of jobs in higher categories. The argument for a higher minimum is simply this: on average a single adult worker needs to make $11 an hour to support him/herself. That number goes up not quite proportionately as you add family members (as is logical, right?). But 42% of working adults make less than the $15 they’re asking for (sorry, Fortune mag didn’t break down by how much or how many and I’ve not researched that far, yet). But just for easy math, let’s say half of those don’t make $11 or more (the living wage for a family of 4 with 2 adults working is about $12 each). Suddenly, there’s a shortfall. We’re not comparing apples to apples here–when you point at skill enhancement and personal responsibility, you do nothing to account for the fact that more than 25% of jobs DON’T PAY A LIVING WAGE. That wasn’t always true. In the post-war years, Americans that worked could support themselves. Now, a family of 4 needs the equivalent of 3 full-time incomes to live the middle-class lifestyle they could live on one income just half-a-century ago. And that’s NOT the (BS) result of globalization–it’s the result of suppressed wage growth and increased capital market investment by a suddenly ridiculously rich (thanks to Reagan) 1%. Anyone that wasn’t around for Ronnie’s presidency, please refrain from your suppositions and things daddy told you to say.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        Very well said!

  6. Jeff2 years ago


  7. Darlena2 years ago

    This article is ridiculous because it really gives a false view by taking into account only minimum wage and not counting those who make slightly above minimum wage. I dare you to give these statistics for those who make mimimum wage and up to just .75 more an hour. I would bet your numbers would change drastically. Many jobs give just slightly above minimum just to look like a better offer.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      You’re absolutely right. Labor unions used to set the bar for wage and benefits that employers used to hire. With the destruction of the labor unions, that bar (what employers call the “market”–they pay competitively to the “market”) is now set by minimum wage and so falls short of a living wage, which is another thing entirely. Without a voice, labor cannot expect business to compensate them fairly. Like the first guy said, its the number of people willing to do the job at the price offered–well, in a high unemployment climate, that’s a whole bunch of really hungry, really desperate people (incidentally kicked off the welfare rolls) that will do anything. And business is LOVING it! (sure, I’ll take the pun).

  8. George2 years ago

    Doubling the minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 has its domino effect (raising the cost of all services and products) Does that include doubling fixed income payments such as Social security?

  9. Jack barnette2 years ago

    I would like to know what the average equifax credit scores are for $30000 per year, $30001-$80000 and $80001up income brackets.

  10. Luby2 years ago

    The question is simple… Why should someone get up.. Get out of bed… Work all day, to “earn” a “living” to support their family or individual existence if they can’t actually “support ” them… I work two full time jobs, am educated, love what I do, am not on any assistance whatsoever, but can’t help but recognize that there is a “I can’t win… Why try?” mentality… There needs to be some sort of incentive to engage or re engage Americans….

    1. Phil2 years ago

      Integrity and responsibility is why. We Americans have become spoiled thinking we deserve things even if we don’t earn them. People want higher wages without being required to learn and improve in an occupation. Its very simple to make way above minimum wage with a little hard work and desire to improve.

      1. S2 years ago

        40,000 a year…60 hours of work a week.
        After taxes & health insurance I brought in 2,000 a month.
        Say you have $1000 rent or mortgage.
        Then car insurance, phone bill, housing insurance, electric bill & water & trash is paid.
        That leaves $400 left per month for food, gas & everything else, that’s a little over $100 a week to live on “leftover”.
        Then, fill up your tank 5 times a month, that’s about $150, leaving you with $300 for the month. Then buy your groceries for the month, spending $200 a month is $50 a week on food…that means NO eating out at all. $50 a week hardly feeds one, yet alone a family. That leaves one with around $25 a week “extra”. That “extra” goes for parking & laundry each week & then, you’re broke. Just living the American dream

        Cable & internet become luxuries that you may be able to afford if you can squeeze a second job at 20 hours per week in for a total of 80 hours, which you will have to do if you have children because there is daycare because you live at work. That right there puts you deep in the hole.
        p.s. I worked my ass off to get from minimum wage to this position. It’s not as easy as one outside of my income bracket imagines. This is the carrot dangling in front of minimum wage workers noses, this is what they can strive for, pretty motivating huh? People in my position are simply trying to survive, quality of life isn’t even on my radar, just survival. And all those years working minimum wage felt life or death sometimes, it sounds dramatic but a grumbling stomach is a familiar feeling to me. Nobody working 60-80 hours a week should have to worry about their next meal ever. God bless America!

        1. Leona2 years ago

          Exactly 🙂

        2. larry2 years ago

          Why in the world would you have a $1000 a month mortgage if you can’t afford it? Why would you have a 200k house? That’s crazy. That is called living way above your means. My house was 150k with 5 acres I only pay $850 with taxes and insurance being paid with my monthly payment.

          1. Louis Bono2 years ago

            It’s about standard; 30% of income goes to housing. In fact, in many areas, $1000 is quite cheap for a mortgage. Particularly in my area you wouldn’t find a rental for that price unless it was in a government approved type of abode.

          2. J Napier2 years ago

            No. There is no reason to spend $1000 a month on housing. That might be common, and that might be want your banker recommends as what you can afford, but unless you live in an elite area there are always cheaper options. Where did you live when you made minimum wage? Move back to that neighborhood. Even if you couldn’t find a nice, cheap house in a less desirable neighborhood finding a cheap place to rent would be smarter until you can save up enough to live comfortably. Heaven forbid you have to get a roommate. Don’t get caught up chasing the dream. You don’t need a car that is newer than 10 years old. You don’t. Now, if you’re trying to raise a family, and you’re the only one working, that’s a different story…

          3. Anonymous1 year ago

            This is so funny. LOTS of places where $1000/month for housing is minimal housing. Eastern MA (where I live), it gets you a modest condo (2br, 1100sqft).

        3. Monica1 year ago

          You mention having a family live off of this. If you are only making 40K a year, then your wife can work as a child care provider. She will make at least 200 a week watching children out of your home. By her doing this, you will be just fine. It is about working as a team. I am unsure what bank would give you a mortgage of that amount with this particular income, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. None the less, the 800 a month your wife can bring in will help quite a bit. Furthermore, with the details you gave, you would qualify for food stamps. So there you go. It can be done, but it takes a team.

        4. Dylan Creasman1 year ago

          I make 40k a year and my family of 3 lives off of that just fine…everything my wife makes is extra that goes into savings…

          1. Anonymous1 year ago

            Then you must live somewhere with a low cost of living. In eastern MA, I make 113k and my family of 3 just gets by. We live in a condo. Own 2 modest cars. Take 1 vacation a year. Wear modestly priced clothing. Eat out once a week. Minimal retirement savings and even less regular savings.

  11. Kevin Packard2 years ago

    It’s not that useful doing analysis on people who make exactly minimum wage; what’s far more useful and would be much more telling is how many people work below the historic value of minimum wage. I.e. the current minimum wage up to around $10/hr.

    1. Joe2 years ago

      It is actually really useful.

      Food for thought. Minimum wage goes from 8$ to 9$ in new York next month. How much do you thing the person getting paid 8.50 will make? Probably 9$ how much do you think the person making 11$ will make? Probably 11$ for every person who gers a dollar raise there are 19 more who just got a pay cut.

  12. Thinkingdem2 years ago

    Would be of interest

    To know what percentage of workers make less than $15/hr

    And what the impact of increasing minimum wage to $15/hr would have on the following:
    .. Social security and Medicare payments (and trust fund status)

    .. Medicaid .. Earned income tax credits .. Food stamp .. Add to dependents .. Expenditures

    .. State budgets .. In other words .. Would we all be better off (or not)


  13. Ricardo Cintron2 years ago

    I’m a mechanical engineer and I’m in 7.25 hour. Is sad but no company here in Puerto Rico don’t what to give a job to a recently graduate student. I work as a delivery man for a construction company.

    1. Matt Connor2 years ago

      Why not leave Puerto Rico? You have to go where the jobs are…

  14. JLP2 years ago

    Wages should be determined by supply and demand. Why is this so hard for people to figure out?

    1. Casey Donegan2 years ago

      At some point the price of cattle can become so low that no rancher can make a living. So ranchers, through their vote to government, put in regulations agreeing no one can sell cattle for under a certain price.

      Same happens for milk, and many other products. Is it so extreme to think that labor should consider the same exact self interest protections?

      1. Jacob Rideout2 years ago

        No, it means that some ranchers should sell out and there should be fewer ranchers and less beef. Then the prices would rise. At some point we’d have sort of equilibrium. Why should the government create higher beef prices for consumers and subsidize rancher lifestyles?

    2. Alex Dahl2 years ago

      You would be 100% correct if this was a free market. It is not free. It is actually heavily regulated, although mostly in favor of large industry. They subsidize the losses(low wage workers will need government assistance) and privatize the profits. It is actually cheaper to just pay them.

    3. Roger Choate2 years ago

      Wrong. Because people need a living wage, so they don’t need government assistance—which, btw, we all pay for.

      1. Pete Fantom2 years ago

        Roger, You do realize that all historical numbers show that as the minimum wage rises, so does the number of people living below the poverty rate. The number prove that when the minimum wage increases, more people end up on government assistance not less. This is mostly due to the fact that as wages rise, you reduce the cost differential between a person doing a job and automating that job function. If I normally pay a guy to cook french fries $7.25 an hour and a machine that can do it automatically costs $30,000, I will probably keep the guy. If you force me to pay him $15/hour, his yearly pay is more than the cost of the machine. He is gone.

        1. Carol McCarthy Haroldsen2 years ago

          Seattle has proved your argument to be invalid. They raise the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour 9 months ago and their welfare rolls have dropped an income has gone up businesses have seen an increase. Maybe a little research is in order.

          1. SteelCondor2 years ago

            Seattle raised the minimum wage to $11.00/hr on April 1st 2015. It won’t be raised to $15.00 until 2017 (depending on what schedule your business falls under). So no, Carol, it hasn’t been $15.00 for the past 9 months. You should get started on that research.

          2. Felton Suthon2 years ago

            Carol – this is consistent with many studies of increased minimum wage. The positive studies do not last long enough. Over the longer term, employers will hire fewer minimum wage employees and the poor are hurt by the loss of jobs.

      2. Yashmak2 years ago

        A “living wage” mandated by the government would in effect be exactly that, government assistance, for those jobs which didn’t produce value commensurate to the wage the government deemed a “living wage”.

        Not all jobs produce value equal to a wage which would support a family. That has always been the case, yet many people now seem to want to buck millennia of economic precedent.

    4. Anthony Zarzycki2 years ago

      It is.

      The people are demanding a living wage and the businesses that won’t supply that will need to take it up with the government.

    5. Kevin Packard2 years ago

      No. The idea that it should purely be a product of supply and demand is extremely myopic. It’s a serious problem for our entire economy when demand gets much lower than supply and causes a huge percentage of people to work below a living wage.

  15. Robert2 years ago

    “Good intentions do not guarantee desirable outcomes”
    Many people desire to raise the minimum wage to help bring people out of poverty; however, raising the minimum wage may simply raises the poverty bar placing more people into the poverty category. While low skilled workers may make more money per hour, the products they are making will cost more to produce and those costs will be passed onto the consumer. For example, the dollar menu at McDonalds will become the two dollar menu.
    One important effect that is often overlooked in minimum wage discussions is how the minimum wage hike will affect those whose pay sits right above the newly intended minimum. The current federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour, if this is raised to $15 per hour what happens to the wages of the workers making $15.25? Do they get a raise of $7.75 per hour? Not likely. If people have been working in a job for 5 years, or more, and finally are making $15 per hour, how will they feel when a 17 year old just starting out in an entry level position is making the same wages as they are? Even if those people get a slight increase they are likely to feel devalued and underappreciated. Too top it off their cost of living will likely increase making their hourly wage not go as far. All that said, an increase in the minimum wage could decrease moral in the employees that are making making just over the intended minimum.
    I have heard people argue that raising the minimum has increased employment. Stating such things is a violation of the ceteris paribus the Latin term “other things constant” because there are many factors that drive employment. When looking at the numbers as a whole, raising the minimum wage tends to decrease employment. (…)
    Looking at the service industry, or more specifically restaurants, if servers make more per hour people are less likely to tip. If servers tips drop they loose the incentive to provide exceptional service, therefore the quality of service decreases. This can be seen in other countries where tips are not the norm, customer service is much poorer.
    So while it may sound like a good idea to raise the minimum wage, there are many negative consequences, a great deal more then are usually discussed.

    1. SCOTT RICH2 years ago

      And now that you have raised that point, should we raise the Auto Industry wages back to the pre-Ronald Reagan defunding of the middle class…$35 to $60 per hour for factory line workers, now $15-$20 per hour?

      1. JLP2 years ago


        Reagan had nothing to do with auto workers. Market forces took care of that. They were overpaid.

        1. Roger Choate2 years ago

          Reagan didn’t do it directly, but it was, in part, due to his policies, and, no–they were NOT overpaid. Just because right-to-work-for-less state gets it done cheaper or some 3rd World country does it cheaper, doesn’t mean they were overpaid.

          1. JLP2 years ago

            In a market economy, they were overpaid.

    2. Donny2 years ago

      You know we are looked at weird by the rest of the world for our tipping policies. There are PLENTY of jobs where people don’t get tipped and service is still great. Moot point if any there.

  16. Kevin2 years ago

    My wife and I both make over minimum wage. I make $10/hr and she makes $9.75/hr, and we both work full time. We have a 15 month old daughter.

    We share one vehicle that is completely paid off and requires only basic maintenance. I walk to work and she drives. We have one phone. We do not have cable tv or internet (I’m posting this via a friend’s internet). We don’t go out on weekends (or ever). We don’t travel. We don’t do drugs or drink alcohol. Ninety percent of our clothes are 5-10 years old, and anything we do get we buy second-hand. We’ve had fast food 3 times in the last year. We do our best to eat healthy but cheap, and our jobs offer us free meals. My wife gets health insurance through her job. Our rent is considerably low ($750, and we live in Connecticut). We do not make foolish purchases or blow money on expensive gadgets (I splurged a few weeks ago and bought myself new socks. *gasp*)

    We do everything we’re “supposed” to, and still, when all is said and done, we are struggling.

    We get EBT (food stamps) monthly, or else we’d go hungry.
    Our parents lend (read: give) us money, or else we’d have -even more- crippling debt than we do (medical, student loans)….and we don’t even really have that much compared to most people.
    Our gas (heat) was just shut off. To get it back on I have to pay them $405 in addition to what I actually owe them. Money I don’t have.
    We have no savings because every time we get a little to put away, we almost immediately have to spend it on some kind of emergency.

    If I have $20 in the bank, they take $15. If it drops to $5 without my knowledge and they charge me another $15 (or I make a small purchase), they add another $35 charge.

    I have tried again and again to get a higher paying job, but even if I do, it may mean my wife would have to stop working, or my daughter would have to go to daycare. Neither of which is a realistic choice. (Why? You may ask. Because we share one vehicle, can only work certain hours at our current jobs, and daycare is incredibly expensive – from $300/month up to $1500/month)

    This article is both disingenuous and insulting. It does not factor in people like us. We do not make minimum, yet we may as well with the amount we struggle to simply “get by”. It makes a poor, uneducated attempt at justifying a broken system. One which was established to be a living wage.

    “By living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level — I mean the wages of a decent living.” – Franklin D. Roosevelt

    People want to act like it’s just a simple math game and if you just do “this, this, and this” you’ll be on top in no time.

    You’re wrong. You’re completely, 100% wrong.

    We live on a razor’s edge. If my car breaks down tomorrow, or we have some kind of accident, or one of us comes down with a severe illness, we will be out on the street, or living in one of our parent’s basement.

    I think what people often forget is $10/hr times 40 hours does not net you $400 a week. Income taxes are a heavy burden, even on the poorest of us. Especially on the poorest of us. We each take home about $250 a week.

    What’s saddest of all is the reputation it has gotten us in the public eye. People think we’re lazy, unmotivated, and assume we’re on drugs. It’s disgusting the way people talk and act, and it’s usually coming from people who had the right connections, came from privileged homes, and have never experienced difficulties.

    We’re full time workers, and if it weren’t for the pittance we receive in benefits from the state, we’d be homeless full time workers with a baby.

    I understand that people get out, and I believe one day we will as well, but the callous way in which people speak is shameful. We get called “takers” even though we pay our taxes just like everyone else.

    You should be ashamed of yourselves. You don’t deserve the lives you have.

    1. Robert2 years ago

      I can understand the difficulty that you are facing. I’ve been there my self when I had a young family and I was only making $10 trying to raise two kids with only one car. Daycare is horribly expensive and good jobs do not come easy. Unfortunately if minimum wage is raised to $9.50 an hour do you think you or your wife will get a raise too? Sadly, it’s not likely. To top it off, if the minimum wage is increased, the cost to produce goods increases and those increases get passed along to the consumer. Everything costs a little more, oh and the daycare that is already charging a lot, raises their cost too, because their expenses when up. Now you are still making what you were making but your dollar doesn’t buy you as much.
      Raising the minimum wage may help people making minimum wage (which is mostly teenagers and young adults) but it doesn’t help those making above the proposed new minimum. In fact, raising the minimum wage only raises the poverty bar and shrinks the middle class. So the question still remains, how do people in a situation such as you and your wife get a better life for yourselves?
      The only advise I can give is to look for ways to improve your education. It’s not easy, in fact going back to school kind of sucks, but it is the only way to get a decent job. Most states have programs that will help, many cover the cost, you just need to find the time (and I know that will feel impossible, but you can do it). Maybe your wife can do daycare in your house for one or two kids instead of working outside the house and you can then find a job work whenever?
      Just a few thoughts that I hope help.

      1. Kevin2 years ago

        Robert, it’s not that I want the government to mandate higher wages. It’s that I want employers (mainly large corporations) to start paying fair, liveable wages.

        Workers should not have to rely on government handouts to scrape by while companies are reporting record profits.

        This, unfortunately, brings us back around to the minimum wage. You have to force these people to pay better, not because it’s the best way, but because it’s the only way. If they could get away with paying less, they would, and do.

        I honestly don’t like regulation, and I’m all for smaller government, but the reality of the situation is quite clear. If you think I’m wrong, feel free to look up the history of workers and wages before minimum wage was a thing. (slavery, indentured servants, child labor, unsanitary and outrageously dangerous working conditions)

        I understand minimum wage isn’t the answer – only human decency will solve our problems, but the sad truth is: most humans really aren’t all that decent.

        1. Joe Eliot2 years ago

          What part of raising minimum wage increases the cost of goods? So if they raised minimum wage you would still be in the same position as you are now because you would have to spend more money.

          Maybe the answer is to let you keep more of the money you earn.

          I am married and have a 15 month old daughter. My wife and I both work and make about 55K a year. Its not impossible. And raising the minimum wage would hurt my family by making things more expensive.

          1. Sonja Flater2 years ago

            The costs will go up anyway. The costs of transportation and fuel goes up and no one complains, but labor costs are the easiest places to cut.

          2. joy2 years ago

            What people don’t get is that employers most of the time does not need to pass wage increases on to the consumer, the business owners just need to decide to buy one less vacation home, one less luxury car, one less 30000 dollar vacation,one less yacht and so on….. to be able to afford the increases. That non sense the business world is spewing is exactly how businesses get the sheeple to jump to their greedy defense about not being “able” to raise minimum wage.

        2. Pablo2 years ago

          Kevin, you are a 21st century slave. Not much ability to improve your situation as you are trapped by existing responsibilities and a horrible job market. If I were you, I would consider an injury or getting fired so you could collect welfare. It’s easier. You have no real incentive to keep up the hard work. AND, it’s totally not your fault. This is the place the current system puts people, and this is exactly why people give up and get on assistance.

          1. Roy2 years ago

            I’m all for government assistance if it’s used to make you a better person. I had a teacher that was on it so she could get her teaching certificate. So many states have programs to help people get a leg up but it is a person’s choice to decide to have a better life or stay content with the way they are. If content is where you’re at, then complain to somebody else. So I agree, get on that assistance and let the government help you.

      2. Roger Choate2 years ago

        That ‘get a better education’ stuff is so bogus, when they’re already struggling with one car. Raising the minimum may not give these ppl a raise, but it’ll help, in the long run. The last time the minimum was raised, I was told that mine wouldn’t go up. Guess what? I didn’t care. If it improves society—I’ll get mine.
        Also, raising the minimum, Joe, would only raise the price of a Big Mac $.27. Also, Joe, this is all a set-up to set low wage workers against each other.

    2. cnyap12 years ago

      Two $10/hr full time jobs is $800/week = $42k per year (minus $4k in social security and Medicaid/Medicare tax) = $38k take home pay.
      Plus you get food stamps ($500 or $1k per month? $5k per year?)
      You also get the “earned” income credit?
      Unlike my wife and I, you also surely get the full child tax credit ($2000). (Families making over $120k or so do not get the whole child tax credit thanks to Democrats)

      So your income after taxes, tax credits and welfare / food stamps is at least $38k + $5k in food stamps + $2k = $45k…plus perhaps you make some money you didn’t tell us about “under the table”, as many people do.
      Not enough for any “extras” and medical/dental has to be a struggle, and surely you are not saving for retirement.

      You ought to move, and/or do whatever it takes to make more money (can your wife babysit neighbors kids during the day? Can you work two jobs??). Your wages are very low – you ought to be searching CONSTANTLY and not be loyal to your very low paying jobs/employers (biggest mistake low wage earners make is being complacent).

      My salary is $88k per year…a lot more than yours, but look at what taxes and other responsibilities does to it: I noticed today in my check that after my 401k deduction, taxes, and dental (no medical insurance, my wife pays that our of her checks), I bring home only $47k per year – barely over half my salary! We lived on my salary a few times and barely got by.
      Our expenses are higher than yours. $200/year on cell phones is all plus a normal phone $30/month. We have 2 cars, but keep them 10-15 years (so they cost $200 each = $400 per month if you average out what we paid + maintenance over 10-15 years).

      We have 2 kids and a house, so instead of rent, we pay over $6k per year (so $500/monthly) just in property taxes alone! (NYS has the highest). Plus maintenance…it adds up to a lot more than renting.

      Anyhow, take control, don’t be complacent.

      1. Lorie2 years ago

        You don’t get food stamps at 40k a year but, hey, thanks for playing.

    3. J Napier2 years ago

      Kevin, you and your wife need to change your withholding allowance. A couple filing with a dependent should not be taking home $250/ea. The government is taking a couple thousand dollars from your paychecks, and then sending it back to you after you file your taxes, months later. There are withholding calculators online that you can use to see the effect of changing your withholding. If I were you i would claim 4 dependents or so. Even if you end up owing money at the end of the year (which you probably still wouldn’t), you’d be better off owing the government than getting evicted. Also, i know it’d be shameful, but if there is anyway at all you could move in with family or friends to reduce that $750/mo, even for a few months, it would give you a chance to save something. And, anything you could do get more hours or find more work would be huge.

    4. Monica1 year ago

      Why did you have a child if you all are in such a financially difficult situation. I have no idea how old you are, but perhaps you needed a better plan prior to having a child.

  17. C. Timm2 years ago

    What a joke! So don’t raise the minimum wage because there aren’t that many people who make the minimum wage? First off, the statistics this guy is using simply don’t add up! How many employers are cheating the system or don’t report wages? How many workers are making just over $7.50 per hour? How much is a living wage in each area of the country? I guarantee it’s more than $7.50 an hour full time! In most places it’s probably close to double that for someone to live in an apartment, eat food, pay utilities and get around! If you take this guy seriously and really believe we don’t need to pay people enough to at least afford a place to live, food and utilities we are doomed as country!

  18. M Vieira2 years ago

    To argue against a higher minimum wage shows corporate America,s media machine has done its job. What moron thinks that Mcdonalds is going to hire less with higher wages! Their number crunchers know the optimal number of employees. Even if they paid half of 7.25 they would still maintain their optimal number. That is called efficient productivity! Corporations are machines focused on the bottom line to appease shareholders. I for one am willing to pay more for my grandson’s happy meal to support a liveable wage. Either way I pay more through hand outs paid by my tax dollars. I would rather pay more for my goods and services and give these workers the dignity of being able to support their families.

    1. Joe Eliot2 years ago

      64% of them aren’t supporting anybody. They are in high school or college living with their parents. Nice try.

      1. Elizabeth2 years ago

        Actually, you see that 50.4% of them are not supporting anyone. Your statistic comes from the part time workers- probably some of whom ARE supporting a family. Maybe they have a spouse who is working full time, and they work part time so they can watch the kids, because they can’t afford a nanny.
        Now, 50.4% is still a lot, but you have to realize that the other 49.6% is trying to support themselves or an entire family on just $7.25 an hour (or a bit more- depending on where they live). This is an extremely unreasonable amount to live off of, and many of these people are being supported by the government. The government does not have an infinite supply of money- the money for the people to support themselves should come from their employer, not the government.
        Now maybe there should be a separate minimum wage for teenagers, and once you are age 21 (or maybe a bit older) you are paid a different minimum wage. This would support the people who need to support families as well as not overpay teenagers that are just working for some college money.
        However, this doesn’t even need to be factored into the equation for most cases, since there have been studies that prove that a higher minimum wage would decrease turn-over rate. People would be more likely to take the job, and to stay with it. Productivity is also shown to increase when the minimum wage increases. So, either way, whether a higher minimum wage helps teens or families, it also helps the employers and the economy itself. A higher minimum wage= a larger demand= more money in the economy= happier economy. A higher minimum wage is really a win for everybody.
        Now the real question is- how high is too high?

  19. Kristine2 years ago

    If a fast food worker or an office secretary, or the gardener out in the hot sun doesn’t do enough to make $15/hr – what do THESE people do to make (calculated working 80hrs per week) aprox 6500/hr?

    1. Tess2 years ago

      That’s what we need to be discussing. Why are huge corporations making insane profits paying minimum wage in the first place. I want to see the statistics of the rise in CEO and Executive pay over the last 35 years.

      1. Doug2 years ago

        We used to have a tax system in place to prevent that. Sure there were still loopholes for people to make big dollars, but not at the expense of their employees. Now 50% pay no taxes The CEOs are making insane salaries and the country is going broke.

  20. Jared3 years ago

    I’ve always wondered about this.. if I’m an EMT or a preschool teacher making say.. $14 an hour. They raise the minimum wage to $15. Do I get a 5 or 10 dollar raise, or do I just say “forget about dealing with blood or chasing toddlers.. I’m getting a job at radio shack!”
    Wouldn’t a hike of anything more than a dollar cause a ripple effect like this?
    I wouldn’t bust my butt to change oil and tires if I could make the same amount jockeying a register.
    So then what happens if oil change guys are making $25 an hour? An oil cage would cost an arm and a leg.

    Slippery slope.

    1. Mike Emerson2 years ago

      Jared is so right. A minimum wage increase does not affect only the entry level worker. Everyone who has put in the time and quality of work to be a dollar or two above that would also deserve the same increase as every minimum wage employee. And many unions tie their prevailing wage rate to the minimum wage. So an increase from $7.25 to the desired $10.10 (or even more in some places) would mean a nearly $3 raise for everyone in America. That will have two primary effects . . . 1) price increases and 2) layoffs.

      1. Karl2 years ago

        We as a country, place 12, for minimum wage. If you look at other nations that place above us, such as Australia, ( which last I checked, had the world’s fourth highest economy), they have a higher standard of living as well. How can this be, if all the nay sayers in our country are correct, in assuming that raising the living wages will doom our economy? Go outside our nation, look at others that have already traversed the roads being proposed here, and then decide if it’s feasible.

        It’s not just Walmart that we support with our tax dollars in every county. It’s not just the minimum wage, or the fast food service industry that we supplement so many food stamps for. What is factual, are the number of corporations whose business plan and profit margin rely on tax dollars supplementing their employee’s lives. If they were all teenagers living at home, our taxes would be considerably less.

        I’ve spent time in Australia, where the wages are so much higher, and guess what? It doesn’t cost twice as much for a Big Mac. Somehow, prices are still kept to reasonable, while still allowing for a profit margin…

      2. Renato Carabelli2 years ago

        Australia exports account for aproximately 1/4 of the GNP of the country.
        Almost all of their exports are raw materiales (ORE, Animal meat, etc.) and a lot of it controlled by the state.
        That inyects like US$ 11,000.00 per each australian.

        This in unimaginable in USA.

        If China or Japan stops consuming Australian raw goods, it will be interesting to see what happens to Australia.

        I mean, it’s like in Norway, because of oil and gas exports (again Raw materials), the country recieves per each norwegian like US$ 40,000.00

        You just can’t compare, Australians and Norwegians have it easy, the raw material capital flow per capita is HUGE. And with that numbers, is very easy to manage a small country.
        But they are completely dependant of external forces.

        In the other side, USA people can’t dream of something like that but also, whatever happens to the rest of the world, will have a moderate impact in your economy.

        You can’t manage different situations with the same ideas, models or tools.

    2. Robert2 years ago

      Jared you hit the nail on the head. The problem so many people don’t think about is how it affects those making just over the projected minimum wage. Employers aren’t going to raise everyone’s pay when the minimum wage goes up. Therefore those making say $10 per hour will still be making $10 per hour and those making $15 per hour will still be making $15 per hour but their dollar won’t buy as much.

      1. Chelsea2 years ago

        You are all STILL missing the point. Even if you are doing well financially, how can you possibly enjoy sponsoring corporate America? Why is a corporation allowed to report increasingly rising profits year to year while paying a wage to their workers which is not even close to a sustainable living wage? Do you really believe that corporations deserve to earn a profit while the government is forced to subsidize their sub par wages??

        This makes no sense at all. This is why our national debt is what it is. This is why our countries average personal debt is what it is. No one makes enough money to live sustainably; not the people nor the government. Yet (successful) corporations increase profits every year. Why are corporations allowed to increase prices for goods/services/food year by year, earn a higher profit year after year, and yet their employees do not deserve a higher wage…practically EVER. And meanwhile, the national debt is still out of control. Sure, I can survive on $10/hour, especially since I have a decent employer who chooses to include health insurance and a decent profit-sharing/401k program. But I’ll never be able to cover an emergency on this wage which is why I now have considerable amounts of debt. My $8000 car has already cost me $5000 in payments and I’m barely halfway through the term. I now have a $4500 balance on the car which is barely worth $4000 (though I do expect my prius to last another 100,000 miles easily). I am slowly working my way through college and because unsubsidized federal loans accrue interest while still in school, I’ve already accrued $2000 in interest on top of the principle, at 24 years old.

        By the time I am able to work my way into a higher paying job, I will need to live on my current wages in order to divert the rest of my income towards debt. It will still take me almost ten years.

        And that’s assuming that the writer is correct in his audacious claims that low wage jobs are only a stepping stone. The fact is, our economy is becoming more and more service based. Those whose wages are increasingly higher and higher rely heavily on the services of those making low wages and yet you believe that the service industry should remain in poverty.

        YES, many of us are using low wage jobs as a stepping stone towards a better career but not all of us will succeed. For those of us who don’t, we will ALL continue to pay taxes towards their wage gap. Heck, the federal government says I don’t earn enough to afford payments on my student loans and yet I paid $2000 in federal/state taxes last year, AS A FULL TIME STUDENT.

        What is that I’m working towards, again?


        1. Joe Eliot2 years ago

          You are still missing the point. Corporations will not be harmed by raising minimum wage. They will continue to make the same record setting profits year over year in spite of raising minimum wage. They will increase their prices of goods and those people who make over minimum wage will have a decrease in available income because of this higher cost.

          1. Mark2 years ago

            Exactly, large “evil” corporations will see minimal negative effects of an increase in the minimum wage. The small mom and pop businesses will really have problems and in all likelihood many will have to lay off, scale back or close altogether thus increasing the market share for the big corporations. It’s tough out there and money doesn’t come easy, but simply raising the minimum wage isn’t going to suddenly make things better.

      2. Erik Best2 years ago


        You are clearly just making this up as go along, or you have a very bad source of information. Other wages will most definitely rise with minimum wage.

        I would invite you and the readers who don’t believe this to Google: “how does raing minumum wage affect other wages”.

    3. Stephen Schneider2 years ago

      Part of the “ripple effect” would be your company deciding to increase its worker’s wages to avoid losing its workers to Radioshack!! This is the beauty of competition in a free market and why EVERYONE’S wages will increase with an increase in minimum wage (besides CEO’s of course).. Surprisingly, most small businesses are actually pro-minimum wage increase because they understand that with more money in the consumer’s pockets, there will be more business.

    4. Monica1 year ago

      YES Stephen, it would have a ripple effect. This is part of the problem in doubling the minimum wage. People do not understand this. I know it is difficult for people who do not make enough money, but they have to come up with a plan which works. They are not going on vacations or buying new cars. Their life choices do not permit them to have these privileges. I am not being mean, but it is the way it is.

  21. Jim McDonald3 years ago

    You could certainly claim that the purchasing power of the minimum wage now is on par with its 50 year history, but that wouldn’t consider what these wages, particular for many of the workers( just about all of the 18-24 year and many in the 25 or older old group), will be paying for, which is college. Change graph to minimum hourly wage over 4 year college costs each year and the chart will go down several fold!

  22. Sexxxy Oldfart3 years ago

    If you really want to help, eliminate the minimum wage. Both unemployment and out of wedlock births have skyrocketed since it’s inception. Noted economist Walter Williams is a leading critic of the minimum wage, a policy that he and many economists argue increases unemployment. The late Milton Friedman, a Nobel Prize economics winner, called minimum wage law “one of the most, if not the most, anti-black law on the statute books.”

    1. TT2 years ago

      Did you miss the bit on this page where it states that 77% of earners at or below federal minimum are white?

      1. Matt Petersen2 years ago

        Friedman argues that blacks are less skilled and can’t get the same jobs at the higher minimum wage. Totally retarted argument if you have the time to watch online.

    2. Erik Best2 years ago

      Freedom turned out to be wrong about things. Theory and application are often very different. The financial crisis of 2008 was in large part due to deregulation. His protege Alan Greenspan responsible for driving much of this deregulation admitted before congress after the collapse of 2008, he was wrong. The “Free Market” is right now anyway an untenable ideal. Nice in theory, not in application. 1 main reason, people are not always rational agents. And as Alan Greenspan put it, these people are not always looking out for the best interest of shareholders in the long term.

  23. White Female3 years ago

    I am now 53 years old and I have never been able to live out on my own. I have tried several times and I just can’t make it. During my early adult years (20’s) I lived with my 2 sister’s and we split the bills, no problem. After they married, roommates just didn’t work out. I have made salaries that were always a little over minimum wage. Low pay means you have a low credit score and the story goes on from there. I am a high school graduate and my parents made a very good living, we never lacked. During my adult life I have been a caregiver twice. Once to my mother and my mother in law. I have always done my best on every job. When I went into Insurance, my bosses never paid me a living wage. I actually landed a good position in a very large Insurance Agency. However, I could not sustain it because I was not trained properly. Most agencies provide your licensing and classes….this can be very costly. They gave me a thick manual and said here you go. During this 4 year position I made the best salary ever, $35,000. per year. I left after 4 years. Now, I make $13.00 per hour . I married at the age of 46, so this pays the insurance and utilities. Presently, my marriage is not very good and I am looking to move out, but where? I have searched high and low for a one bedroom apartment. The low end apartments(450-650) are in terrible neighborhoods, dirty and the medium and higher end (700-1000) are out of my price range. When you take all your expenses and add on vehicle maintenance (2005 Camry), doctors visit or sick day (no pay for sick days) it really is disheartening. Where can a single white female get a break?

    1. Holly2 years ago

      I totally understand how you feel as I am in the exact same situation except I am in my early 30’s. I have been making 13.00hr and have been paying bills but noticed that I would have at least $200 to spare. That’s not enough to pay for an apt. or utilities while renting an apt. let alone me trying to get a house. I am not married yet and I am trying to save while living in my family’s home so that hopefully one day (crossing fingers for the next year or so) i could get my own place.

      1. Joe Eliot2 years ago

        Holly, why don’t you get a higher paying job? I am also in my early thirty’s and am making 39K a year. Its about find what you are passionate about and doing that.

    2. Joe Eliot2 years ago

      Isn’t that your fault for not making good decisions? I’m 32 years old and went to school and am making 39K by myself plus what my wife makes. I’m just starting my career and will be making 60K within 2 years and more after that. I worked hard to get to where I am. People need to take personal responsibility for their situation.

      1. another-white-person2 years ago

        Exactly. We chose what jobs we get. Yes, it’s hard living on ~10/hour, but it’s possible. Work full-time. Get jobs on the side- extra hours at work, or clean houses, mow lawns, etc. Get rid of cable, cell phones, etc. Get roommates. I don’t see how a 40+ year old adult has never “been able” to live alone if working full-time.

  24. PIPCassierkjuu3 years ago

    When I originally commented I appear to have clicked on the -Notify me when new comments are added- checkbox and from now on whenever a comment is added I recieve 4 emails with the exact same comment. There has to be a means you are able to remove me from that service? Appreciate it!

    1. Bobby3 years ago

      there should be a link at the bottom of the email that says unsubscribe

  25. Jd3 years ago

    Yes, but by accounting for only those who earn minimum wage or less you ignore the many millions who earn only $0.25 or $0.50 above MW. The number would be, I think, substantially higher.

    1. BW3 years ago

      Based on what? What you choose to believe? Actually 1/2 are jobs that also pay tips, so the truth is that most people making min wage, actually earn far more

      1. pat3 years ago

        Tips? lmao those people only make like 2.50 an hour besides tips often times they don’t even make minimum wage…

        1. Mike Emerson2 years ago

          From the Houston Chronicle: Most waitresses are paid by the hour and earn tips on top of their hourly wages. Average tips for a waitress are 15 to 20 percent of the total bill, according to Therefore, a waitress that rings up $400 during a four-hour shift should make $60 to $80 in tips. Average hourly rates for waitresses were $9.95 as of May 2012, according to the U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics — or $20,710 per year. This equates to $1,725.83 per month. The top 10 percent made over $2,459.16 monthly. Most waitresses have high school diplomas or GEDs, but those with less than high school diplomas can still get hired. Training usually occurs for a few of the first days on the job. Waitresses who work in fine-dining establishments may also need some classroom training. Other essential requirements for waitress jobs include a well-groomed appearance, good memory and customer service, communication, math and teamwork skills.

          1. Matthew Petersen2 years ago

            I have friends who work at Perkins and Red Lobster. They typically pull $20 – $30 / hour including wages. In MN servers get $7.25 hourly. Tips are usually equal to twice the hourly wage across all the restaurant servers I’ve talked with. Personally I’ve delivered pizza and sandwhiches. In delivery, tips usually equal hourly wage, putting my actual earnings at $15 / hour, though I’ve had a couple nights where I make $40 / hour.

      2. suesita3 years ago

        In some states tip receivers can receive less than minimum wage.

  26. Suzanne3 years ago

    I wanted to make a comment on this. For a short time in my life, I had a financial crash of my own, and had to resort to taking a retail job. I’d never had this kind of job in my life. What I learned: Most retail employers, in California anyway, pay just a tad over minimum wage; still definitely NOT a livable wage. I was hired in at $10/hour, luckily. There is no way anyone could eat, pay rent, utilities, transportation, insurance, medical expenses, etc. on this. After 2008, this retail store lowered their hire-in rate to $8.00/hour. They were mostly students who had parental support, so their little retail job really wasn’t meant for anything more than a little help. For the rest of the employees who depended on that job, it was very depressing. They also cut most of the incentive pay, such as commissions, after 2008, and cut hours. No one except management was a full-time employee with medical benefits; everyone else was part-time so they didn’t have to pay benefits. For part-time employees, “health discount” benefits were offered for $80-90/month out of your minimum wage pay, but those “benefits” were a joke. It was also not affordable for most part-time employees, which meant most employees.
    There are so many injustices in that world of low pay where many exist, and where I had to exist for awhile. It was traumatic, abusive and a true ordeal. To make a difference in the lives of those at that pay rate, you’d have to raise it quite a bit more. Perhaps $15/hour might make a difference.
    While raising the minimum wage to $10.10/hour is a good thing, it will not change lives much or raise people out of poverty.

    1. cp3 years ago

      Very true!

    2. JC NJ3 years ago

      If you made that little you qualified for all sorts of federal assistance including food stamps and section 8 housing as well as medicaid (now obamacare subsidies). Those jobs are not meant to be career FTE. They are meant to be seasonal/part time employment for students and/or supplemental income.

      1. J3 years ago

        So all of those people who work at gas stations, grocery stores, fast food places, the malls, electronics stores, and restaurants.. they’re seasonal or supplementary? Look, it’s no dream career, but you can’t really jump into a mid level IT job with a HS diploma and no resume. Don’t belittle average people.

        1. Mike Emerson2 years ago

          So you can’t jump directly into “Mid-level”? Why is that a problem. You have to earn your way up the ladder, not start in the middle of it.

      2. Stephanie2 years ago

        Actually, most of the time when you take these minimum wage jobs any benefits you do receive are cut out. As soon as I started working, about 30 hours per week on $7.25, my food stamps, and health insurance for my son (I did not receive any benefits through the government for myself) were cancelled. All because I now made too much to be considered for these benefits. My job offered insurance, but there was no way I could afford it. That did not matter to DHS, they clearly stated that if your job offered it, even if you couldn’t afford it, you would loose your benefits. I had never qualified for free housing either before or after I took the job. Oh, and yes I was working as a cashier at a convenience store. The town that I lived in was small and the nearest larger city was a 45 minute drive one way. The only types of jobs in my area were low paying so before you ignorantly say that low paying jobs are only meant to be seasonal or that one could qualify for government support do a little more research.

    3. Joe Eliot2 years ago

      But you aren’t even thinking about the effect raising minimum wage that high on the middle class.

  27. Tomas3 years ago

    This is the real question and if any one knows the answer please write it down:
    Why if Florida is with out doubts the most tourist state of the nation,if hotels, amusement parks,theaters,night clubs,all kind of business, extremely amount of tolls,more than any other state,taxes all over,you pay here even to park in your own apartment parking lot,everywhere you go you pay a lot more in fees for everything,ballet parking everywhere, 40,50 etc, restaurant prices excessively high,the rent of any shitty apartment average 1,500 one bed room and almost 2000 for 2 beds and one bath, that is the average,we need to stop hiding the reality,people here struggle with 3 part times to afford the rent,and those business people pay extremely low salaries any regular worker. In California or New york the salaries are a lot better,the food (I mean groceries0 are cheaper,china town you buy everything half price of Miami,fl.,you find good clothing at cheap price,etc. but Florida is so expensive in everything. In any other
    state people start making always more that the minimum wage,not in Florida. The Communism of Cuba is controlling Florida salaries,they make those poor people work for those miserable salaries,why they do that,if they know they can pay better to the Floridians. Please don’t tell me California and New York are more expensive,because they are not,at least no more than Florida.

  28. Charles Evers3 years ago

    All is it’s getting to hard to find any jobs these days. .

  29. David3 years ago

    Okay here’s how to escape hell.

    Apply to atleast 200 places online and walk 5-10 miles to an interview with your only dress shirt and pants. PLAN what you’re going to say, pretend you’re confident although you’re not. Walk to work until you buy a bike and winter jacket. work a few months at minimum until you get a car. Move into an old friends place or a relative now that you’re not a freeloader and contact a staffing agency and work your way to $10 an hour. register and insure your car, pay rent, try to get off EBT. quit smoking, drinking, drugs. get your g.e.d. then get financial aid to go to college. (or get a union factory career). get straight A’s in college and ride a scholarship to get your AS, BA, or Masters’ degree.

    After those 10 long painful years by yourself living frugally you’ll now have a decent income and can pay off debt. think about it, do you want a house in the safe suburbs or an apartment in the south side slums. The difference in lifestyles is one is poor and lazy, the other is poor and hard working. Can’t or Can attitude. Do it for your future self and kids fellow teenagers in poverty..

    1. Joe Williams3 years ago

      Awesome point. And since all you need to do to get a job is “try hard” there’s no reason we should be allowing people the crutch of “immigrants take all the jobs” and can open the borders.

    2. Wilnex Paul3 years ago

      Very nice David. However, lots of people follow this path and make out Ok, except lots of other people tried and failed. You see life circumstances like accidents, sickness, loss of a love ones do not care about our “logical” economic plans to get out of poverty. Our thinking needs to allow for that, and not be overly harsh.
      In our head, it may be a logical plan but reality can be more messy and complicated, ignoring that may lead to insensitivity.

    3. Bob Cobb3 years ago

      What? You want people to take responsibility for themselves. That’s crazy!

    4. Me You3 years ago

      Wow! You obviously do not know any out of work PHD’s. College education is not necessarily a ticket to success. There are many college grads in low skill jobs becausae they can not find anything else. And to equate low pay jobs with “lazyness” is just plain prejudice.

      1. cyduction3 years ago

        Ok, true enough. But were those unemployed PHDs in a liberal arts?…. or were they computer science /manufacturing /economics?
        I know tons of low wage PHDs with degrees in poetry, history, and music.

        1. Carrie2 years ago

          Engineers with engineering degrees in the US are NOT being hired because engineers with FREE education in India will work for less (no student loan debt) so American companies are hiring THEM instead of hiring American engineers. So stop drinking the kool-aid that blames students for getting the “wrong” degree or for going to the “wrong” school; companies are just run by greedy capitalists who will hire the cheapest labor they can.

  30. Jon B3 years ago

    It’s a way Unions push for wage increases to their membership. Let’s be like Switzerland and have no minimum wage. Put it to vote and an increase to minimum would never pass. Democrats use it to divide people-they always need a victim to promote their failed agenda.

    1. Joe Williams3 years ago

      Yeah, I think we should take the parts of what Switzerland does that we like, and ignore the stuff we don’t like (gasp! socialism!) and assume it’ll be great.

      1. Will3 years ago

        Switzerland is like Hong Kong– arguably among the least socialist countries in the world. There’s a reason why Switzerland is host to European hedge funds– individual cantons compete with one another to lower income taxes. Clearly you have not lived there.

      2. Pamela L.3 years ago

        I’d like to see you respond to useless eater, John B.

        You also can’t provide any examples of how Democrats divide people. That’s a Republican talent.

        1. mittens20122 years ago

          Black vs white
          women vs men
          gays vs straight
          religious vs atheist
          Rich vs poor
          1% and .01%
          war on women
          war on christianity

    2. useless eater3 years ago

      Switzerland is blessed with strong unions which have established a defacto minimum wage. That wage works out to a little less than $15/hr…

  31. Doug R3 years ago

    I’m a little bothered by this research and a lot of other research that studies the minimum wage as it studies people who make EXACTLY the federal minimum wage, $7.40 per hour. If someone made $7.50, or $8.00 an hour, they would be exempt from the study, but still under the poverty level. A more inclusive study would be to determine the demographics of those making, say, $15 an hour, or making less than the poverty level. Then you would get a better picture of what kind of people are poor and what kind of industries they work in. This would help pinpoint what kind of solutions may work to help them, whether raises in minimum wage laws, or perhaps changes in policy or investment in business and economic development.

    1. Doug R3 years ago

      In the above post I meant to say “the demographics of those making, say, $15 an hour OR LESS,”

      1. Jane3 years ago

        This post is not a comprehensive examination of poverty and low-wage earners. It’s data-gathering about a specific policy: the minimum wage. There are plenty of articles that examine which industries pay the most and pay the least, even broken down by specific pay grade. There are also plenty of articles providing data on the federal poverty line.

        See how he didn’t end the post with a litany of policy suggestions for reducing poverty? That’s likely because that’s not the point. The point is to provide advocates and opponents of *this specific policy* with solid, easily digestible data. For those looking for policy solutions for reducing poverty that are as far-reaching as business investment to labor laws, they would need to read several books. Not a 250-word article.

        1. Joe Williams3 years ago

          The problem is raising the minimum wage impacts more than just the people making exactly the minimum wage today, it affects EVERYONE who WILL be under the NEW minimum wage.

    2. Pamela L.3 years ago

      Thank you, Doug. Absolutely.

      1. cyduction3 years ago

        Your right. It doesn’t take into account the employees who have collage debt, who have worked multiple years with this company, and put in time /resources and loyalty. …who are now going to be making 50 cents up to 3 dollars more than a new, no experience, no collage degree, no time in job newbie. And their possibility of getting any kind of raise just went down 30% or more.

  32. JGM3 years ago

    Mr. Jaeger,

    Less than 3% (2./6% to be precise) of the workforce paid a wage or a salary earns just the minimum wage. That is hardly a “large number”.

    This whole discussion is put forth by the Democrats as just another way to polarize the electorate. The same as the gay marriage issue. Less than 2% of the population is gay, but just look how much attention this issue gets. It’s ridiculous.

    1. rtl3 years ago

      You nailed it! It’s about driving voters to the polls with phoney issues.
      Lying liars and the lies they tell.

    2. Marc in NA3 years ago

      I think that is backwards. Gay issues get publicity because a large number of people who are opposed to gay marriage, and thus it becomes an issue that gay folks have to fight for. Otherwise, there would be no attention to the issue. I would predict that once gay marriage becomes the norm, no one is going to care anymore.

    3. Joe Williams3 years ago

      So what you’re saying is this shouldn’t hurt anyone then, yeah?

    4. Pamela L.3 years ago

      Where did you get that only 2% of the population is gay? And why is this in a site that’s clearly all about wages?

  33. John R Jaeger3 years ago

    Just to set the record straight. A large number of the people making less than the federal minimum wage are food and beverage servers whose wage comes primarily from tips. Now how much they make is dependent on the restaurant they work at, but they are not all living in poverty. My daughter worked at a very nice restaurant in the suburbs of Boston for several years. I won’t say what she was making, but let’s just say she was solidly middle class. Of course there is a large difference in tips between a little café where the average bill is less than $10 and a high end restaurant where the bill is closer to $50 per person. My daughter worked at the latter. Still, the statistics should be revised to account for actual take home pay. By the way, contrary to popular opinion, servers do usually pay taxes on a good portion of their tips. With the vast majority of people paying for their meals with credit cards now, a lot of restaurants have added tip income onto W2s.

    1. Jim3 years ago

      I agree that many tipped workers may make good money. In Florida, those businesses with tipped employees, pay just 4.91 an hour, every hour. My daughter works at such a place. Some hours she gets no tips, yet her pay is still 4.91 per hour. Then they include any tips she made all week into her paycheck. She works a fews days a week @ the 4,91 wage plus about $20 tips. I think it’s time to just get a job at Checkers where they pay minimum for all hours worked.

  34. Nicole3 years ago

    @Paige S
    28 million is still only 9% of America. So the other 91% who wouldn’t benefit from a wage increase would have to deal with the brunt of inflation, dollar depreciation etc; which will eventually percolate down to that poor 9% once again and we end up right where we started. Raising minimum wage is like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound….it isn’t going to accomplish anything. Now properly taxing those who can afford it rather than giving them tax breaks left and right might actually help our economy.

    1. Miguel3 years ago

      Your arguments would make sense if the weren’t based on terrible misconceptions. Prices go up to help business owners/managers help their workers, but it doesn’t significantly hurt anyone in terms of inflation. If we raise minimum wage by a dollar, that dollar per hour would be spread across customers(using a restaurant as an example) which would only add up to a few cents per customer. This would stimulate spending which would put billions of dollars into the economy.

      I do agree that taxing corporations would make a much larger difference, but do not discredit raising minimum wage.

      1. Terry3 years ago

        I managed a retail store for a year and a half that barely made a profit. Before I was there it was losing a ton of money. None of my employees were making minimum wage, but all would have had their wages raised by the proposed 40 percent increase in minimum wage. That would have put the store and many other retail stores in our area in our same situation out of business. Big corporations are not lobbying against minimum wage laws, by the way. It would actually help them because they can absorb the costs and put small business competitors out of business. A disproportionately high percentage of minority businesses would be negatively hit by minimum wage laws because many operate on such slim profit margins.

        Low wage jobs function as starter jobs.Having worked both full time and part time in real retail for over 30 years, I can safely say that very few employees who are good will have to stay at a very low wage job year after year. Good, adult employees with legal status and good communication skills who remain at FT jobs that pay less than 11 or 12 dollars an hour for long periods of time most often either are happy there or have fears of moving forward that cannot be helped by any government policy. This fear may include leaving an economically depressed area for better one.

        The absurd argument that giving low-wage workers extra money helps the economy because that money is then spent ignores the fact that these extra dollars paid to the workers come from somebody else’s pocket, and quite often a small business owner who does not make enough money to afford that.

        1. cyduction3 years ago

          Thank you

    2. Haley3 years ago

      When low income workers receive wages, they aren’t sent to offshore savings accounts, but instead are sent directly back into the local economy to pay for items they need to live i.e. food, shelter, clothes, and maybe even some extras.

      Increased spending benefits local economies and creates jobs, look back at why auto makers originally paid their employees so well, because they knew they would then buy cars, helping the company in the long run.

      It would also help people not need to rely on the government for help, allowing that money to spent in other ways that benefit the community.

      1. cyduction3 years ago

        So you are saying that the 1% who offshore their holdings, are offset by the 9% who are now making more money to “go into the local economy “. What about the other 90% WHO JUST GOT GANG R…… yes it’s inflammatory, but if I have 60K in collage debt and 10 years at a company, and am now making the same wage as a nube with no experience and no training. … I’d be Furious!

  35. Riley3 years ago

    I want to ask one question and one question only, Why should you get paid more than minimum if you only did the minimum amount of work in the first place? Think about it at least 50% of fast food workers or grocery workers and factory workers are high school drop outs and the other half our graduates who decided not to go to college because it’s easier to get a job at a restaurant. Education is everything in today’s society and educations is something a lot of people are lacking.

    1. B3 years ago

      Tell me — how is someone supposed to afford college classes without any money to pay for them? Most of the people I know working part-time are either in college and working, or in college and trying to support themselves. Not only that, what rate are you using to compare the “minimum amount of work” to the rate of pay? How can you measure how much some hypothetical person works?

      1. cyduction3 years ago

        I worked 3 jobs. I lived with 5 roommates. I never got 1 loan ever. I did it as a “white ” looking “hederosexual female.” You rate their work by the HOURS THEY WORK. Even if its just self study at home. Even an Evergreen student could be “Rudy” if they stopped being so damnd entitalistic.

      2. another-white-person2 years ago

        You live with many roommates, multiple to a room.

        You work full-time for a few years, side jobs on weekends, and save up for YOUR education and make YOUR future what you want it to be. Eliminate all cable, mobile phones, coffee shop visits, etc. and live in the cheapest apartment you can find with as many roommates as you can find. Work every spare hour you’ve got. Save your money up. Apply for a few scholarships. Work some more. Then take the cheapest college classes you can find.

        What, do you think our country should give everyone poor a free college education after we just gave them K-12 free? Oh, wait, we already do give many of them such aid.

        1. joy2 years ago

          The venus project on, you are the kind of person that needs to hear jacque Fresco.

    2. useless eater3 years ago

      You’re misunderstanding who will be affected by increasing the minimum wage. An increase to $10.10/hr (for example) will affect everyone who is currently earning below $10.10/hr – not just the 3% earning the current minimum wage.

    3. useless eater3 years ago

      What does education have to do with how hard someone works while they’re on the job? By your logic, a self employed hard working high school dropout, running his own business, doesn’t deserve as much as the college grad he may hire.

      Or and intelligent hard working employee, who happens to be a dropout, deserves less than a lazy mediocre college grad who earned “gentleman’s C’s” (in the words of George Bush).

    4. Suzanne3 years ago

      How can you judge how hard someone works, based on their education? From the grammar and spelling errors in your own statement, I can only assume that you are/were not the best of students. Did you ever think that perhaps many people cannot AFFORD to go to college? It sounds to me as if you are looking down on these people, judging where you should not judge, not knowing their circumstances or realities.
      Perhaps you should walk a mile in their shoes.

    5. Pamela L.3 years ago

      Riley, so we all go to college and get degrees, who IS going to flip the burgers?

    6. Me You3 years ago

      Maybe if college did not cost $40,000 a year, more people would get an education.

  36. C3 years ago

    Wrong. The teeenagers cant get the minimum wage jobs now. Adults desperate for any job at all are taking those, as well as retired people who lost their retirements that are returning to work at some of the only jobs they can get.

  37. Paige S3 years ago

    This analysis would be enhanced by placing a discussion of the minimum wage within the broader context of low wage work more generally. Approximately 28 million Americans would positively benefit directly or indirectly (from upward wage pressure) from an increase of the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. The way the article reads (at least to me) is as if to suggest that only 4.3% of the labor force earn minimum wage and every one else is doing just fine. This is an inaccurate and overly simplistic portrayal of the condition of the working poor in this country. A very large percentage of Americans are just getting by, and do not have enough money to meet the basic needs of their families. They may be earning $10 or $12 dollars an hour, but they are living on the financial brink–one health emergency or car repair away from losing a job and falling back into poverty.

  38. Mark O3 years ago

    Some of you people have not even read the article. 4.3% of the work force are minimum wage and of that over 50% students. If you raise the min wage, less student work, prices in restaurant and fast food, grocery stores and other retail place will rise. They will do this with less people, longer lines to check out and poorer customer service. It will not help anyone!

    1. Michele Marie3 years ago

      OK, so you’re saying if we raise minimum wage then prices will rise? Then why did prices raise even when the minimum wage wasn’t raised? Why did gas prices more than double, college costs went up by hundreds of percentage points, and everything else from groceries, to clothing to utilities to apartment rents and housing prices, all went up even though minimum wage never moved? Many students are trying to work their way through college these days. So why not pay 50 cents more for a burger so people can get a living wage? Most folks will never notice the miniscule raise in prices anyway. I’ve seen people pay 5-7 bucks for a cup of coffee, so I’m sure they won’t have a problem paying a little more for a burger. Most of the states that have raised minimum wage now have a better economy because if poor people have more money they will spend it and create more jobs. Let’s do it, raise the minimum wage to a fair, living wage.

    2. Jerry N. Wesner3 years ago

      MarkO, if you think that businesses that pay minimum wage or near it can operate successfully with fewer workers, you’ve never held such a job. Already bosses are pushing to get more work from fewer workers, cutting hours, demanding split shifts, and otherwise milking low-wage laborers for all they can get. Any fewer and nobody would be cleaning tables and flipping burgers. When the minimum wage has gone up, as when raised by states, the number of workers is virtually unaffected, and business often increases — more people can afford to buy stuff.

  39. Robin3 years ago

    We can’t tell where the data comes from – tax returns, or surveys? Are we talking about a “base wage” of minimum, or total “gross income”? This data SHOULD be compiled from tax returns and divide TOTAL gross wages by TOTAL number of hours worked – because that is the very definition of “hourly wage”. But we don’t know if it does, or does not. Food service jobs are always at the top of the list of minimum wage workers, but I don’t think that includes total gross wages (i.e. tips). So it seems to me that this data isn’t coming from tax returns, and does not reflect reality at all. Show me, just SHOW ME, a waitress who only GROSSES $7.25 per hour! That would mean she’s getting ZERO tips and must be a really bad waitress. I don’t know of any employer that would keep someone on that is that bad at their job. So obviously the data is skewed and does not reflect GROSS HOURLY WAGES. Therefore, the data is meaningless.

    1. Eric Johnson3 years ago

      If you click on the BLS hyperlink in paragraph 2 it sends you to this webpage with the following survey info:
      The data are obtained from the Current Population Survey (CPS), a national monthly survey of approximately 60,000 households conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau for the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). Information on earnings is collected from one-fourth of the CPS sample each month.

    2. Chris3 years ago

      Your point would be a good one if it were accurate Robin. BUT the minimum wage for tipped employees is 2.13/hour. The National Restaurant Association lobby has effectively lobbied to exempt that group of employees for years, and the result is that the minimum wage for tipped employees has not changed in 23 years. Initially that number was arrived at by a compromise to get the minimum wage passed in 1991. Tipped employees had to be paid “at least 50%” of the proposed minimum. Somehow though, each time the a new minimum wage has been passed, the Restaurant Association has successfully kept these folks exempted. You might be surprised to know that many restaurant employees get a negative check every payday and therefore have to cough up money for taxes because their wage doesn’t even cover that.

  40. Tobyw3 years ago

    Minimum wage jobs are supposed to be first jobs, or jobs with tips. The market is clogged with workers who have no experience or quit HS/can’t do arithmetic/read/show up for work, etc. If you can create value for your employer you will get a job worthy of that value.

    1. Jerry N. Wesner3 years ago

      Tobyw, you must live in a world where rainbows arch over unicorns. You create value for your employer and he — lets you. Increasing workers’ pay because they do really, really good work? You work hard and he may give you more hours up to when overtime would kick in, but that’s about it. Bosses often can’t give raises anyway, because the handbook says no. Or the regional manager frowns on anybody getting more than is absolutely necessary. Work hard and move up may have been true, in 1952, but it isn’t now.

  41. Shaka3 years ago

    It would be best if this study were replicated using differing levels of proposed “living wages.” That way there would be a uniform floor for each state regardless of federal or state minimum wages. I think that using living wages would also stop the debate from being about whether people make at or above the minimum wage to whether they can live on their actual wages (which is the point this article is getting at I believe). Finally, if the study included proposed living wages then we could from there analyze possible inflation countrywide (because state minimum wages above the federal minimum but below the proposed living wage would have to change, those state minimum wages above the proposed living wage wouldn’t necessarily have to change).

  42. Ana Maria Fores Tamayo3 years ago

    I wish these stats would begin to place oddities like adjunct faculty, who, though most times we do not get paid living wages, we do not “qualify” in these stats because you quantify them by the hour. Given that we work on the credit hour system, and we only get paid for hours in the classroom — not for all the work done outside the class — our average 60 hour work weeks never get balanced in. If they did, they would certainly show a stark picture of today’s contingent faculty work week, who make up 75% of the Higher Education professoriat today (that translates to 1 million intellectual workers, give or take a few, of the 1.5 million professors in Higher Ed today).

    Is there a way for you to begin to show this to the outside world? It sure would make a difference. When we are being educated by part-time faculty who have no time to dedicate to students because we have to run around to our next class at our next school in order to make ends meet, it is students who lose out: in the end, society will be the biggest loser of all.

    Faculty working conditions become student learning conditions. Want to change that outcome? Change faculty conditions. And want to change that? Let people know; make them aware of this horrible inconsistency. Professors teaching students make less than people selling them goods at the supermarket sometimes.

    Right now, very few people know this dirty little secret. The universities are fooling everyone. We keep telling folks, but they keep spinning the news. But they cannot spin stats. Please accumulate and publish them.

    Besos, not borders,

    Ana M. Fores Tamayo, Adjunct Justice
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    1. John M3 years ago

      Adjunct faculty is a difficult situation because some of your competition is essentially volunteer. I have thought about this as I near retirement and look for something to do. I am considering teaching college, using my education & experience to do something useful. I don’t need the money and would probably work almost for nothing more than that satisfaction of doing it. My dilemma is the flip side of yours. I don’t want to take useful work from people who might need it for their livelihood, but I don’t want to demand much money and price myself out of the market. I am a soon to be former diplomat. Many of my colleagues are teaching and none of them are earning much, but that is okay. Some are donating what money they earn right back to the university. I understand this “virtue” may harm as much as it helps, but what is the solution?

    2. Orange Bubble2 years ago

      It’s the same with resident physicians, you know. They make about “$23 or 24/hour” to start, based on a 40-hour work week, when in reality they work 90 to 100 hours/ week on average. Yeah, so that can be less than $10/hour after spending $300,000 or more on medical school (not even including undergrad costs). You just gotta do your time in these types of positions before you can get into a job that will pay off.

  43. Robert Kaul3 years ago

    Anyone in America who gives up their time to work for someone else should be paid a living wage so that they can sustain themselves by their work and not need a subsidy from others to sustain them. The current minimum wage is not a living wage, it is a political wage created by wrangling politicians. The issue of turning the political wage into a living wage is not an economic issue, it is a moral issue, just as slavery was. We created the minimum wage to protect workers now we need to define it as a living wage to stop the wrangling and reward work with a livable minimum.

  44. Mike3 years ago

    I think 1.5 million food prep and service workers making $7.25/hr is a shame on our country and the ubber rich.

    1. Arne Boberg3 years ago

      I agree – these people who are serving food that directly causes heart disease, diabetes, stroke and cancer should be paying in to offset health care costs instead of collecting any wage.

      1. Logan3 years ago

        Why should they? they do not want to feed you unhealthy meals, they need to in order to make a living and support their family. I do think though, that some corporations should either make their meals healthier, provide easier to view nutrition facts, or make the consequences abundantly clear. but the duty of paying money for health care costs goes the the company, not the employee, as they most likely need that money to feed/ house their family.

  45. Befuddled3 years ago

    If one is trying to support a family on minimum wage you can’t do it but my guess is if that is the case they are already on welfare of some sort. If not they must be very slow mentally. It’s not rocket science to figure out one must do something to make themselves more valuable so as to improve their financial well being. As this report states buying power is going down. It’s called inflation. The ones I tend to feel for are those who worked their life and tried to save for retirement only to see their savings earn nothing to help keep up with inflation. We tend to want to do away with those people as they are considered non productive now and they want their money that was earned so they can do with it as they want. Be it the government or the me me generations. Pathetic

  46. hs3 years ago

    What is the % just slightly above the legal minimum?

  47. John B3 years ago

    Sorry your inflation adjustment is way off. According to the US Dept of Labor inflation adjustment tool, the minimum wage in 1968 would be $10.95 todays dollars.…

    1. Ryan F3 years ago

      It’s not inaccurate, it’s just using the PCE deflator instead of the CPI to calculate inflation.

      The note under the graph mentions that they are using the implicit price deflator for Personal Consumption Expenditure, which is not the same as the Consumer Price Index. Indexed to 100 in 2009, the CPE had a value of 20.5 in 1968 and 108.8 in 2014 Q2, an increase of about 431%. Multiplying the 1968 minimum wage of $1.60 an hour by 5.31 gives us values corresponding to the chart included in the article.…

  48. Jon the pizza guy3 years ago

    I have a 17 year old kid who washes dishes at my pizzeria, he works about 25 hrs a week. He lives at home with his parents and he is a full time high school student…he has no bills but his car insurance. At $7.25 he makes about $180 a week. If I paid him $15 that goes to $375…almost $200 a week more…and that comes right out of my pocket…my kids college fund, my retirement…*my car insurance*….who out there can explain to me why he deserves that money more than me?

    1. Chuck3 years ago

      The term “deserves” means nothing in the discussion about minimum wage. The workforce in the US is larger than you are, and you are the measuring stick for nothing. How about the teenage mother shlepping boxes at a Walmart who lives at home with her disabled mother and a little brother, taking care of them? Does she deserve part of your surplus earnings? I don’t know; what do you think?

      1. Mike3 years ago

        Who’s that? What’s her name and where does she live?

  49. Dennis3 years ago

    I support raising the minimum wage for 18 and older workers to $10.10 per hour and leaving it the same for workers under 18. This would provide more income to the adults currently earning minimum wage without decreasing employment for after school workers.
    The real question the economists should be answer before commenting on minimum wage is how much economic impact do yearly cost of living raises have on the economy? when all cost living wages are added up do they eliminate jobs? are we seeing fewer jobs every year because employers are providing cost of living increases? and if so how many jobs are lost every year? How would raising the minimum wage decrease jobs and not cost of living raises for non minimum wage jobs?

    1. Pam3 years ago

      Why should there be different wages for the same work? That does not seem fair to the individuals under 18. For those over 18, the wages are, and have always been in direct proportion to skill level. It should remain that way. The more skills acquired, the more the wage increases.

      1. John3 years ago

        Increase your value in the marketplace, make more money.

  50. Sandy – Julesburg, CO3 years ago

    I, personally, know a great many single mothers who work for minimum wage. They attempt to feed their children, pay for daycare, and live in half-way decent housing on $7.35 per hour. Yes, they could make better choices — but they didn’t. The only way these women survive is with the help of Social Services-basically, tax dollars. As states attempt to cut Social Services budgets, everyone suffers.

    Think of small children coming into a daycare and depending only upon breakfast, lunch, and snacks without having been able to eat anything at home.

    1. Reymark3 years ago

      5.35 is good enough. All the people here support their kids on that. And this is America too– Well, Saipan. The commonwealth of the United States.

    2. Pam3 years ago

      Yes, well it is unfortunate for single mothers. However, we need to find a way to encourage people to make better choices, not just supplement their income, which does nothing to discourage irresponsible behavior. Many of these women go on to have 2, 3 4 etc children with deadbeat dads. Where is the accountability??? I know some of these women. Some of them are completely unemployed and pride themselves on being stay at home moms. I didn’t have that option because I was actually working to help support my family, not asking for handouts.

      1. Befuddled3 years ago

        Bless you

      2. John3 years ago

        It’s a reward for bad behavior. But maybe that’s all they are capable of doing because they failed to take advantage of the education made available to them. Hey 1 is a mistake, 4 is a factory.

  51. Denny Rivera3 years ago

    Can we really count tipped workers as making at or below minimum wage? If anything, they make WAY more, and it’s undocumented, untaxed!

    1. Chuck3 years ago

      And your source documentation for this is……?

      1. Ryan F3 years ago

        The BLS confirms this.

        The 10th percentile of waiters and waitresses made $7.84 in 2013. Median hourly pay was $8.94. The 90th percentile made $14.33 per hour. Mean hourly wage was over $10 per hour.

        Counting all of these workers among minimum wage earners is careless and misleading at best. Even the 10th percentile is beating minimum wage by a considerable margin, and the BLS doesn’t look at such extreme ends of the earnings curve to tell us exactly how many of them only make minimum wage. It’s definitely less than ten percent, and just by eyeballing it I’d say it’s probably less than five percent.

  52. Mark Curran3 years ago

    How many people make within 20% of minimum wage.

    This article above, like many “statistic” based articles, is apparently meant to mislead. It does not say one word about those making very close to minimum wage, and they could tell you. Why don’t they?

    They don’t want to.

    It’s highly unusual, for example, for McDonalds to keep someone at minimum wage –perhaps five people at a given store make only that. But 40 of them might make within 10% of minimum wage, and very likely, only 4 people make over 150% of minimum wage

    The wat the article above is written, you would have no clue about that. If McD’s pays two cents above minimum wage — or one cent –this article would not tell you about them.

    When these guys distort, they know they distort, and they do it for a reason. They don’t want you to know whats going on

    1. Jed3 years ago

      It also ignores the fact that many of the most populated states have minimum wages higher than the Federal minimum.

      1. Justin3 years ago

        No it doesn’t, it specifically states, “Also, 19 states besides the District have minimum wages higher than the federal standard; people who’d be minimum-wage workers in those states aren’t included in the 3.55 million total.).” Did you even read the article?

        1. Morgan3 years ago

          No, Jed’s right. If it doesn’t include them, it ignores them. By definition.

          1. Adam Anders3 years ago

            ignore: refuse to take notice of or acknowledge; disregard intentionally.

            This article all BUT ignored them, as it most certainly did acknowledge them. It didn’t give you the details, but if we’re going to split hairs, let’s make sure we know what we’re talking about.

    2. Leroy3 years ago

      Right on!
      Exactly my observation.

  53. Jc Jones3 years ago

    I honestly hate to post a stupid question. When we talk about people earning the minimum wage, are we talking about people earning $7.25 an hour as a threshold? Are those earning say, $7.26 an hour not included in the numbers? What about those earning $7.75 an hour? Lets just be honest. The difference between $7.25/hr and $7.26/hr a year is $20.80 a year. The $.50 difference: $1,040. Then lets talk take home pay. $.50 cents an hour equals $86 a month. I’m just curious if the research includes any data for those slightly above minimum wage or not.

    1. Doug Eckelbecker3 years ago

      I’ll take an extra $86 per month

  54. Mike3 years ago – Implying tipped employees aren’t paid minimum wage isn’t entirely accurate.

    1. Ryan F3 years ago

      In practice, they aren’t. Even the 10th percentile of waiters and waitresses beats minimum wage by more than fifty cents an hour.

      While there are almost certainly tipped employees making minimum wage, I would be willing to wager that such workers represent less than five percent of the total.

  55. Howard3 years ago

    I would be interested in seeing the graph adjusted to show how much federal aid a person making minimum wage might receive, and how much it has changed since 1960.
    Since we are talking about a ‘living wage’ it implies its purpose is to help those who have to attempt to support a family on the wage. In that vein federal and state aid would add to the income.

    1. Uyen3 years ago

      Bureau of Labor Statistics and dig deeper. I’m doing research on this issue. There are many sources.

  56. Mike3 years ago

    I’d be more interested in statistics that show the financial situation of those working minimum wage jobs. The protests are about a “living wage”. What percentage of minimum wage earners actually have to “live” off their wages? I suspect the vast majority of minimum wage earners are supplementing household income, as I did as a teenager working for gas/party money.

    1. Titanium Dragon3 years ago

      About a third of people who earn minimum wage, and a bit over 40% of those who make below living wage, are the sole breadwinners for their household.

      1. Doug Eckelbecker3 years ago


      2. Kathy3 years ago

        I suspect that stat is exaggerated but I also suspect many sole bread winners will take a part time just to supplement their main income, often just temporary jobs, like those one might take at Walmart on weekends and evenings during holidays to get the extra money needed to buy Christmas gifts.
        I worked at Walmart for years and saw a lot of people doing just that.

    2. Miguel3 years ago

      53% of minimum wage workers are full time. And if not, many are working multiple part-time jobs that still pay minimum wage. You worked at walmart and believe people were simply supplementing a household income…you are terribly mistaken.

  57. Steve C4 years ago

    The reference to the percentage of workers at or below the minimum wage relative to the total number of workers is meaningless due to exclusion of states with minimum wages above the federal level. Just five of those states – California, Florida, Ohio, Michigan and Massachusetts – represent over 25% of the nation’s employees, but no minimum wage workers in those states are acknowledged relative to the total labor market.

    Comparing the total number of workers in all states to the number of minimum wage workers in only some of them is making a comparison of dissimilar data; i.e., comparing apples to oranges.

    1. Drew DeSilver4 years ago

      The post was careful to state that it was talking specifically about the percentage of workers at or below the *federal minimum wage*. We kept the focus there for a couple of reasons. First, as one of our other commenters noted, the federal minimum acts as a uniform floor — it applies even in states that have no set minimum wage in their own laws, or one set below the federal minimum. A minimum-wage worker in Ontario, Oregon makes considerably more than a minimum-wage worker just across the border in Payette, Idaho; combining both sets of workers in the same analysis didn’t seem to make much sense.

      And as a practical matter, since we wanted demographic and occupational breakdowns of minimum-wage workers and those data come from BLS, we would had to adopt their definitions anyway.

      I do agree that If individual states with higher-than-federal minimums did the same kind of analysis, with the same definitions, in such a way that they could be readily combined with the BLS numbers, we’d have a fuller and more nuanced picture of the minimum-wage workforce in different parts of the country (I’d be interested, for example, to know how the demographic/occupational profile of minimum-wage workers in Washington State, for example, is similar to or or different from an otherwise-comparable state that has only the federal minimum.) But absent such data, it seemed to us that sticking with the uniform federal-level data made the most sense.

      1. Steve C4 years ago

        A statement such as: “In the Pacific region (California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Hawaii), by contrast, only 1.5% of hourly workers earned the federal minimum or less” is of little value if you fail to note that the only state in that region in which it’s not illegal to pay employees at or below the federal minimum wage is Hawaii, which represents less than 3% of the jobs in the region.

        Similarly, the comparison between now and 1979 is pretty much meaningless because of the increased number of state laws mandating pay above the federal minimum wage, even if only by a few cents per hour. The fact that the percentage of workers earning federal minimum or below in the South Central region (which has no states with floors above the federal minimum) is virtually the same as the 1979 average suggests that in fact no demographic/job change has actually taken place over that time period in terms of the percentage of the workforce working for minimum wage. The statement “they make up a smaller share of the workforce than they used to” is probably due solely to state laws mandating higher pay. The data actually suggests that in fact the percentage of workers earning the legal minimum in the location they work in (whatever it might be) is probably unchanged.

        In fact, the majority of the apparently meaningful facts suggested by the article – regional and temporal differences in the percentage of minimum wage workers, etc. – appear to be primarily due to the impact of those laws rather than any demographic or economic factors. Ignoring that factor results in a study which is pure but of little value. (The demographics of the minimum wage workers and the industries they work in are probably valid observations, but that’s not particularly new or informative.)

      2. AC4 years ago

        You’re giving the impression here that you don’t understand the criticism of your statistical analysis. The original poster is right and these analytic errors in your article are not matters of opinion.

        1. Drew DeSilver4 years ago

          I totally agree that looking just at who makes the federal minimum by definition undercounts the total number of minimum-wage workers in states with higher-than-federal minimums. And in hindsight I should have noted that that would affect the regional percentages (although I did note at the end of the third paragraph that the BLS analysis I relied on excludes minimum-wage workers in states with higher-than-federal standards).

          I can’t say whether or not the fact that a smaller share of hourly workers earn at or below the federal minimum than 30+ years ago “is probably due solely to state laws mandating higher pay,” though I’m sure such laws are a factor. One would have to do a state-by-state analysis of job growth in states with and without higher-than-federal minimum wage laws to answer that question; while that would be an interesting and worthwhile piece of analysis, that’s not what I was trying to do here. The main intent of the post was to look at the demographic and occupational characteristics of minimum-wage workers, and those data come from BLS, which means they’re keyed to the federal minimum.

          1. Ron4 years ago

            To find out how many and which types of employment might be affected by the proposed change in the MW, can you look at who makes the proposed minimum wage or less?

            Might also be interesting see how much folks like these contribute to the tax rolls. But not just Federal Income Tax, as they probably pay none. They all will, however, pay state and local sales taxes, possibly state income taxes, vehicle registration taxes, federal and state gasoline taxes, … . Their monthly rent will allow their landlords to pay state real estate taxes, local home owner insurance, … .


        2. Dan3 years ago

          Steve’s analysis is also flawed. He took a number of statistical correlations and suggested a causual relationship with no data to back it up.

          He may well have valid points, but words like “probably” and “appear to be” with no roots in data don’t make the argument correct. He is just as guilty of the errors of interpretation as he suggests the author of this article is.

      3. DJ Crane3 years ago

        It would also help to see comparison of minimum wage with cost of living differences by states. Just as some international comparisons use the “Big Mac” as a comparative tool, it seems US minimum wage in some lower cost states could contribute to a higher standard of living than state minimums in higher cost states.

        More importantly, we should pay attention to “liveable wage” where a person who works 50 hours a week (at one or more jobs) or a couple who works a combination of 60 hours per week should earn enough support themselves and family – rent, food, clothing, transportation, and perhaps something toward retirement and college education. Spending too much time and attention on minimum wage at the very bottom of the compensation spectrum will keep the society from addressing a much broader and more fundamental disparity in pursuing “greatest good for greatest number” and aspirations that helped create and sustain our country.

    2. BpF3 years ago

      This complaint is like buying an apple and later complaining it is round and doesn’t taste at all like banana.

  58. Bill Bateman4 years ago

    I like your informational post.

    I find it interesting that many in the food business have a couple benefits that don’t “show”. #1 – they often have tips and those amounts are usually in excess of what’s reported #2 – most that I know eat food from the restaurant they work at a large discount that is not reported as an economic benefit.

    In the 2nd category I would suggest that a lot of commissions are paid in addition to the minimum wage base.

    I think the Government needs to stay out of this issue

    1. FDR4 years ago

      Your naivete about tips and the food industry is astounding. You don’t know that their part of their tips are withheld in the form of taxes thanks to St. Reagan’s policy of robbing from the working poor and middle classes to ingratiate the rich.

      You also don’t know that most sit down restaurants have a policy of pooling their tips so that 10 – 20 percent tip on the bill is actually split amongst the cooks, bus boys, hostesses, etc.

      Third, there is a percentage (approximately 20%) that don’t tip at all.

      1. Matt4 years ago

        While some of Steve’s comments are valid some are just picking the data apart to prove his view without much in the way of facts. The article is for the most part on point to the premise it s trying to illustrate. Not a lot of people make the federal minimum wage. Approximately $1.5 million. And you certainly should not include tipped employees as their average minimum is above the federal minimum. I have not talked to any tipped employees that average out to $7.25. If they do they move to a higher volume restaurant. I am not why withholding in tips is pointed out as bad by FDR. Certainly he should expect workers to pay taxes on their earnings. Which by the way many of them don’t as they get it back in refunds.
        So the article is correct – all this hub bub about the importance of raising the minimum wage is a waste of time as it impacts so few and is appropriate for entry level jobs. Minimum wage jobs are not meant to be the primary source of income to raise a family and in fact rarely is as you can see because most of the minimum wage earners are students or first year employees. One last point, wages are suppose to be set to be the fair price to pay for services rendered, not how much one needs to pay their bills. How much should you pay a high school student to ask you if you want cheese on your burger? It is not hard. I know, I did it for years while pursuing what would be my more permanent job to support my family.

      2. Cory3 years ago

        Having been in the service industry for a while, and knowing many people that have even more time under their belts, I have some bones to pick.

        What exactly is wrong with tips being taxed? I would think someone on your side of this argument would be all in favor of taxation of income.
        “Pooling tips” is a term used to describe all servers in a restaurant putting tips together and splitting them amongst themselves, usually breaking it down by the hour and multiplying by hours worked. “Tipping out” is the term used to describe paying off your bussers and barbacks, and almost always amounts to less than 10% of your tips.

        I don’t know where you get your numbers, but saying one out of five tables doesn’t tip at all is way off base. This isn’t an area that lends itself well to concrete stats, and is varied geographically, but I would estimate the number is closer to 2%, tops.

    2. Joe W.3 years ago

      One thing people seem to forget is that this data is talking about people who currently earn the minimum wage. If it is raised, it will affect more people. So the real need is now to compare the above data with the additional number of people that will be earning more.

      Secondly to address another point that was mentioned, it is extremely important to address the difference in service industry jobs that have tips and those that don’t. There is a growing trend in food service to have, “fast casual” restaurants, which are more like fast food, and workers tend not to be tipped, or if they are the tips are very low.

  59. Chris Peterson4 years ago

    I believe this article does a disservice to the discussion of the minimum wage in our society, given that it only focuses on those who earn at or below the FEDERAL minimum wage, but excludes those who are paid at or below their given STATE minimum wage. Thus, you are comparing two dissimilar data points (minimum wage workers in 1979 vs. today). I would’ve expected a more rigorous analysis from the Pew Research Center… if Mr. DeSilver could please post updated figures documenting those who earn at or below their state’s minimum wage, or at least note in his analysis that the drop between 1979 and today could be attributed to increases in state-specific minimum wages compared to the federal standard during that time, that would be greatly appreciated.

    1. Jess4 years ago

      “…it only focuses on those who earn at or below the FEDERAL minimum wage, but excludes those who are paid at or below their given STATE minimum wage. Thus, you are comparing two dissimilar data points (minimum wage workers in 1979 vs. today)…”

      State minimum wage laws vary. Five states have no minimum wage laws, and four states have a minimum wage below the federal rate. Employers in those nine states must pay the FEDERAL minimum wage. Another 22 states set their minimum wage right at the FEDERAL rate.

      19 states (and DC) have a STATE minimum wage that is HIGHER than the FEDERAL minimum. It is only those workers earning MORE than the FEDERAL minimum wage that are not counted here – and they shouldn’t be, because this is an examination of the purchasing power, by national average, of the FEDERAL minimum wage over time. It is NOT a comparison of the federal minimum wage to the wages paid in those states with a higher rate.

      The FEDERAL minimum wage and those STATE minimums are DISSIMILAR data points to compare for this purpose.

      Now, if you’d like to compare the minimum wage rate paid in Alabama (a state with no minimum wage) to that of California (a state with a rate higher than the federal minimum wage), then you also need to adjust for the relative local purchasing power of that wage – or you’ll once again be trying to compare apples to oranges.

      1. davidmurky3 years ago

        poverty in america is now at $16 hour, less is below poverty,were at
        same wages as 1960 that’s’ pretty much a depression 40 years in making,
        we need to increase wages for all Americans to live decently…