March 14, 2014

U.S. Census looking at big changes in how it asks about race and ethnicity

Experimental question combines race and Hispanic ethnicity.

The Census Bureau has embarked on a years-long research project intended to improve the accuracy and reliability of its race and ethnicity data. A problem is that a growing percentage of Americans don’t select a race category provided on the form: As many as 6.2% of census respondents selected only “some other race” in the 2010 census, the vast majority of whom were Hispanic.

Six percent may seem small, but for an agency trying to capture the entire U.S. population (nearly 309 million in 2010) every 10 years, that number results in millions of people unaccounted for. This pattern of response led to the bureau’s “most comprehensive effort in history to study race and ethnic categories,” according to Census officials Nicholas Jones and Roberto Ramirez. Increasingly, Americans are saying they cannot find themselves” on census forms, Jones said.

Many communities, including Hispanics, Arabs and people of mixed race, have said they’re unsure of how to identify themselves on census forms.

Current Census form asks about race and Hispanic ethnicity separately.

The 2010 Census form asked two questions about race and ethnicity. First, people were asked whether they are of Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin. Then they were asked to choose one or more of 15 options that make up five race categories — white, black, American Indian/Alaska Native, Asian, or Native Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander. A separate question about Hispanic origin has been asked of all households since 1980, and the census form specifically instructs respondents that Hispanic origins are not races.

To address concerns about a rising share of “some other race” selections, a combined race and ethnicity question is under consideration for 2020, in which people would be offered all the race and Hispanic options in one place. They could check a box to identify as white, black, Hispanic/Latino/Spanish origin, American Indian/Alaska Native, Asian, Native Hawaiian/Other Pacific Islander or some other race or origin. They would be offered a line under each category to supply more detail about their origin, tribe or race. Examples of this include: German, African American, Mexican, Navajo, Asian Indian and Samoan.

The Census Bureau’s goal is to reduce the number of people who select “some other race.” The category was added to the 1980 Census form to capture the small numbers of people who did not select one of the official race categories, and has grown to become the third-largest race category in the census, Jones said in a presentation this week to Pew Research Center.

In the 2010 census, many Hispanics were unsure which box to check in the race question. Hispanics accounted for more than 18.5 million of the 19 million people who checked “some other race” to describe themselves.”

As the bureau has conducted experimental surveys and focus groups with a new approach to writing the race and Hispanic questions, some Latino groups have voiced concern that eliminating the separate question about Hispanic origin would result in a decrease in the number of Hispanics counted by the census. However, that did not happen in the experimental survey collection, according to the Census Bureau. Because census data is vital to determining everything from how congressional districts are drawn to $400 billion in federal aid programs and enforcement of civil rights laws, the prospect of having one race or ethnic group’s numbers change is fraught with political consequences.

The bureau is continuing to research changes to the question wording. Agency officials intend to meet with Hispanic advocacy groups this spring and others interested in potential changes to the race-Hispanic questions to get feedback. It plans to test a combined race and ethnicity question on its Current Population Survey next year and on its American Community Survey in 2016.

But a lot of work remains. Questionnaire changes would have to be approved by the Office of Management and Budget, which determines and defines the race and ethnicity categories. Any proposed topics must be submitted to Congress by 2017. Question wording is due to Congress the following year.

Here are some more detailed findings from the Census Bureau’s Alternative Questionnaire Experiment presentation:

  • Combining race and ethnicity into a single question did not result in a reduction of the proportion of the population identifying as Hispanic.
  • Among those who identified as Hispanic, however, there was a decline in the number of people who wrote in a specific origin group. For Hispanics, the decrease was driven by people of Mexican descent, according to census officials.
  • The selection of “some other race” declined to less than 1% of respondents when race and ethnicity were combined into one question, according to results cited by census officials. The category was chosen by as many as 7% when race and ethnicity were asked in the experimental and standard variations of the two-question form.
  • The proportion of people who did not respond at all to race and ethnicity questions also declined in the experiment. About 1% percent did not answer the combined question. When the questions were separated, 3.5% to 5.7% did not respond to the race question and 4.1% to 5.4% did not respond to the Hispanic origin question.
  • Despite concerns that the combined question would lead to less data about Afro-Latinos, the proportion of Hispanics who also reported as black was not statistically different in the separate-question or combined-question format, bureau officials said. The bureau will soon release more detail about this and other race reporting by Latinos.

Topics: Race and Ethnicity, U.S. Census

  1. Photo of Jens Manuel Krogstad

    is a writer/editor focusing on Hispanics, immigration and demographics at Pew Research Center.

  2. Photo of D’Vera Cohn

    is a senior writer/editor focusing on immigration and demographics at Pew Research Center.


  1. Al Rex1 year ago

    These people are Mestizo-Indians and nothing to do with being Latins. They cannot just take the term “Latin America” and make it “Latino”. A person from Latin America is a Latin American and not a Latino. Latino means Latin and these are the Latins, linguistically and culturally: Italians, French, Romanians, Portuguese and Spaniards. The U.S. Census Bureau cannot just make up stories and change history because the “Hispanics” want a name for all of them.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      My son just did a report for his freshman year high school communications class on this subject. It actually talked about this and all the other forms presently used by the education and goverment entities using nomenclature that has no basis in science or biology. Caucasian is a group of countries in that spans Asia and Europe to include Georgia, Armenia, and about 10 others. That is where the term Caucasian started when an Anatomist by the name of Blumenbach decided that the Georgian people of the Caucasus region were the most beautiful, perfect in the world and therefore must be superior. Caucasion came to mean white people even though white people did not come from the Caucasus region. And what is”white” people anyway? German people can be very darked skinned but by looking at these forms, they list Germans as an example of white. None of it makes sense.

  2. Anonymous1 year ago

    If they expected people to stop choosing ” other” as there race maybe they should make others more comfortable with there race by having society to have a greater acceptance to the race they are.

  3. Anonymous1 year ago

    why the cencus asking about race only? the created God was created 2people only . not saying africa , spanish , white or maxican. its looking like racist when we die God never asking question like that. before God we are one family .

  4. COCO Lve1 year ago

    Hispanic- from Spain.
    Latinos- are those who share the language and latin culture.
    Egyptians are African origin.
    And Filipinos are Pacsific Islanders.

    That Census is a mess and no mention of bi, or multi racial people?!

  5. Famous Wolf2 years ago

    hispanic and latino are lables to keep chicanos,mexicans ,south america and central america blinded that we are apart of the Native Race not just white spainish blood ask a chicano his race they say mexican no its a nationality ..My ethinicity is Chicano my race is Native american and some white since spaniards are european my nationality is american the nation i was born in.. not latino not hispanic

  6. Magni Togorsak2 years ago

    I will never understand why America cares so much about classifying people into inaccurate made-up racial categories.

    The more I travel the world, the more inaccurate America’s concept of race becomes!

    I personally don’t answer such question…. the mere fact they ask me to classify myself into one of their made-up races offends me!

    1. Neil R2 years ago

      These categories are not made up. You’re trying to impress people or yourself with how politically correct you are but political correctness is dying.

      1. COCO Lve1 year ago

        No. It’s not it is awaking people are realizing they do not have to agree with the policies place on them to identify as. There really is no real “need” to identify with race,hence we are all apart of the same race which is “humans”.

        The only real reason is to continue division.

  7. Ken Howlpof2 years ago

    I’m part Jamaican, part Grey wolf. I am not represented at all. Bispecies individuals should have our own category.

    1. her2 years ago

      Really Ken -____-

      1. Human2 years ago

        I agree with Ken. It’s not represented at all.
        At one point they had Carribean but they removed it.
        Think about how many islands there are.
        And No, we have nothing to do with Africa. So don’t call Carribean people African or African American because we’re not.
        I hate to be categorized or labeled something I’m not.
        Reclassification is needed.

  8. pbinCA2 years ago

    Racial categorization is so 20th century. It is impractical from the standpoint of the racial and ethnic mixing represented in today’s youth (especially where we live in CA). Maybe we should just stop asking about race and ethnicity. I just don’t see the USG having any interest in this information, and it should be put aside based on the inherent error implied by making people associate themselves with a racial category. It’s very backwards looking.
    The USG should be taking a strong stance to stomp out racial and ethnic identity politics.

    1. Nick Civitarese2 years ago

      That would be genocide.

      If race and culture has no value – why did we stop the Jews from being killed? Why do we speak out on Tibetans? Why do we speak out on Polar Bear extinction when Brown Bears still exist?

      Some of us, especially Caucasians, would like to see the data because there is a silent genocide taking place. To be frank – it’s a WHITE genocide and it’s happening only in Caucasian nations.

    2. Magni Togorsak2 years ago

      I agree with you…. the world is WAY TOO DIVERSE to be simplified by three or four US census made-up race categories!!

      As soon as you set foot outside America no one cares your white/black/latino etc. To their eyes you’re an American, yet in America people dwell on classifying themselves by races and alienating themselves from others according to their skin color.

      Racial questions on the US census must go!

      1. Neil R2 years ago

        The idea that races and ethnicities don’t matter existed in Communism and led to 100 million dead.

  9. D.2 years ago

    Any questions that ask you to identified your self because of your race or etnicity is offensive for me.
    It matters what you do, where you work, how much you do, but my race? What language do I speak besides english? America is a country where everyone who shares the principles and moral and economic idea and comes legally and shares it…stays. Because wants to live within those peaceful and nobles principles.
    Stop discrimination by asking those type of questions.
    Lest ask to ourselves why you really need that information if you know that sadistic it’s separating a Nation!?

  10. Roberto Cintli Rodriguez2 years ago

    The Census Bureau has gone into the Indigenous denial business for many, many decades. Most Mexicans are of Indigenous-origin. So too peoples from Central America and the Andean countries. Of course, there is mixture, but the mixture is minuscule compared to the Indigenous amount. The Census Bureaucrats have long known this, but they have always resisted, pushing the above-mentioned groups into the white categories, even after they check “other.” Why is that? From a demographic standpoint, I believe this is referred to as: Demographic genocide or Indian Removal. A study that doesn’t take this into account will always debate the order of the questions, etc.

    1. Yolange Renaud2 years ago

      Hispanics can’t check both “white” and “Native American” because they are not affiliated to a tribe. They are forced to check “white” only. It would be nice to have a “mestizo” category.

  11. fj2 years ago

    All other countries refer to their race as what country it is, like Africa-African, Spain-Spanish, England-English etc. Why can’t people born in the USA be Americans, plain and simply. There are so many combined races the options would be endless on a survey. The thing to think about is if everybody in the USA is born and raised here,should be one body.

  12. Maria2 years ago

    A conundrum: During the last census, I marked “Yes, Mexican American” (Question 8). On Question 9, it was difficult to answer – I know that I am of mixed heritage on both parental sides – a combination of white and some North American (inc. Mexico) indigenous groups. The problem is that the “indigenous” part is not a “federally-recognized tribe” with enrollment, and in addition to my family and extended family, I’d wager that there are quite a number of people out there who would identify with this, but are stumped with trying to fill this in. I usually fill in “white”, lacking other options, but that description is a misrepresentation – It is obvious that I am not wholly “white” .

  13. HappyDancer1192 years ago

    DO NOT be frustrated by race categories! I will put what is most dominant for race.
    I have to put Asian because it’s dominant in me, just like when I go to El Salvador to adopt a girl named Allie Irene, she will be Hispanic because that’s her dominant race. That Hispanic does have a little bit of white (Portuguese), but the Hispanic side (El Salvadorian) is DOMINANT.

    1. Melissa2 years ago

      But Hispanic isn’t a race!

      1. Ralph McKenzie2 years ago

        People want to pretend that Hispanic is a race. Some people want to deny white Hispanics their racial identity. Others people seem to think that by using the term Hispanic, as a racial reference, that with time, it will become an accepted racial category. It is not a race.

  14. Lawrence3 years ago

    There is no such thing as “race”. It is sociological poppycock. Why do we reinforce this stupidity?

    Belief in “race” is the cornerstone of “racism”. As long as we believe in “race” we will be trapped in “racism”

    1. Sam2 years ago

      I agree with you 100% which is why I will always be in the ‘Other’ category!

      1. COCO Lve1 year ago

        That’s actually a genius approach to look at it. I normally mark decline and never hear a hear back. From now on I will mark other.
        Thanks for the inspired idea.

    2. D.2 years ago

      identified yourself, your race and etnicity? So what? So I will switch mode in order to approach you better? So I know who am I dealing with?! Identified yourself so I can stereotype you…?
      For my records?
      Really? To increase racism. That is all.

    3. Nick Civitarese2 years ago

      Race is not a social construct. You can identify the race of 100 year old skeletons with near perfect accuracy. There are also many differences across the races, for example – IQs, athletic ability, resistance to certain diseases, etc.

      There is a reason we speak out on genocide….that’s because cultures and people have a right to exist. Why do people like you insist on “cleansing” everyone of their identity – specifically, Caucasian people?

  15. Alice3 years ago

    I am frustrated by the “yes/no” hispanic question every time I encounter it on a form. I am forced to either reject the part of me that is yes, or the part of me that is no. Where is the box for irish + swiss + polish + guatemalan + cornish + pennsylvania dutch? When I see all those boxes on a form about my origin I will check them all. Until then, I will continue to choose “other” or “prefer not to respond” because I refuse to omit any of my grandparents.

    1. Justin2 years ago

      You just showed us different forms of white people. It refers to different colors of skin and different ethnic regions of the world

      1. April2 years ago

        White is not a race!! White is a color!! And if you want to get technical, science proves we are all BROWN!! Just a different shade. She is all of those cultures she listed.

  16. cathleen3 years ago

    My father, when given a form to fill out, when asked of race would write …..”Human”. Could you imagine if the majority of people held this type of mindset? Division would be replaced with FACT…we are equal to one another

    1. Neil R2 years ago

      Does fantasy pay your bills? If we were equal we’d all have the same IQ’s and the same abilities, we don’t. Do you want to live in a world of clones?

  17. Joe3 years ago

    I refuse to check any of that propaganda. There’s only one race, the Human Race.

  18. Ben3 years ago

    This highlights a greater issue that a lot of people don’t talk about. The term “white” has changed so significantly over the last 100 years that an Irishman is now considered more white than a Pakistani. When an ethnic minority in this country gets too successful they get branded as white so that the useful story of white oppression can survive. It’s the kind of racism that the left uses to gain power and humanities push to stay relevant. I’m sure Irish Americans, Italian Americans, and Middle Eastern Americans are going to be frustrated by this for a long time. Especially the Middle Eastern Americans who lost their whiteness once Israel got popular.

    1. gata3 years ago

      Spain is european country white

    2. Carli2 years ago

      Italians and the Irish were not viewed as Caucasian in the US at one point in history.

      1. ThatGuy CalledPhil2 years ago

        True, you would have to be of Northern or Western European decent. Eastern or Southern Europeans were seen as inferior.

      2. Shewbacqa2 years ago

        Italians and Irish have being always viewed as Caucasian in the US. However, they were not considered Nordic.

      3. Ml2 years ago

        It’s amazing how widely the lunatic fringe left idea that Irish and Italians weren’t originally considered white had spread from the cloisters of academia.

        This is a nonsensical myth originating in the 1990s with the emergence of “whiteness studies” in academia,

        Irish and Italians and Jews and other non-Anglo immigrants from Europe certainly experienced discrimination but they were never classified as non-white. Even Hispanics were classified as white for most of US history (with the exception of those with obvious black ancestry, who were classified as black).

        A quick look at census data going back to the 18th century quickly exposes the idea that Irish and Italians and Jews and whatever other non-Anglo were considered non-white.

  19. Jacque3 years ago

    Totally agree with peace lily ! Here here ! You’re either an American or not . National or non national. If you want to identify yourself as a non national and citizen of another country that’s fine. But “race ” distinction really?!! Ridiculous in this day and age ! It doesn’t have a place in modern & civilzed society.

  20. Jok3 years ago

    The application form number 8 is sooooo it includes spaniards as southamerican latinos, when eveybody knows that spain is a white european country. What’s the point in including Spain together with other southamerican latino countries? What is the reason for this? I cant really understand it!!!

    If you include spain in this group, then why dont you include italy, france or portugal as well, as they are also the original latin countries??

    Please, bear in mind that nowadays when someone refers to latino countries, this means south american countries of latin origins, not the original european countries of latin background, so please… SPAIN is not a Latino country, but a european country. This application form should be changed!.

    1. Susan3 years ago

      Absolutely correct! Spain is a European country and Spanish people are ONLY from Spain. This form highlights the ignorance of the American people by classifying Spanish people as other than caucasian/white/European. The word Spanish should not be listed with Latino and Hispanic. Also, using the term “Spanish Origin” is only correct for someone from one of the regions of SPAIN. To list other countries to check off underneath Spanish Origin is not only ridiculous, it is absolutely incorrect. Do you classify people from Haiti as French or of French Origin—no they speak French and were colonized by France. Just like so many countries who have one common thread, they were colonized by Spain and share the language…the similarities stop there. The bottom line is that the word “Spanish” is being misused. Spanish refers to people of Spain…Spanish Origin refers to Spain. Unfortunately, the term is being used incorrect constantly by calling people Spanish who speak Spanish. It is amazing how many Americans misuse this word when they understand that they themselves speak English but are not English, they are American, but somehow they ignorantly and incorrectly call people Spanish who are not Spanish but speak it.

      1. Ralph McKenzie2 years ago

        Latino is not a race. Spanish nationals (from Spain) are Latin Europeans. Italians are also Latin European. People from Latin America, are Latin-American. However, they could be of any race. Latin (or Latino in Spanish) is not a race.

  21. Allie Kentel3 years ago

    Race is by your roots, NOT by the color of your skin! For example: I’m as fair as a Greek, but my race is Asian (from Indonesia) because my race has to do with my roots.

  22. PeaceLily3 years ago

    I will NEVER indicate a race on ANY form, government or otherwise. Race and ethnicity are completely irrelevant to the proceedings of the government. The only exception being, to divide and conquer and attempt to continue the oh-so-common racist views that have propounded this country since its inception. JMHO *Peace Out and Peace Within*

    1. A Proud American3 years ago

      PeaceLilly I put down for race “It’s None Of Your Business”!

    2. D.2 years ago

      Well said!

    3. Neil R2 years ago

      What if races and ethnicities had different race specific diseases and doctors could save lives that way? You know how Tay-Sachs is only among Jewish people and sickle cell among African-Americans.

  23. Mata Hari3 years ago

    Race is your ethnic roots, not the colour of your skin! Nationality is where you live. I don’t understand why so many people call themselves as “American” which is NOT a race. There is no such thing. As long as it is politically expedient to raise one colour over the other, simply because certain people are insecure or ashamed of where they come from originally, then the census forms will always be incorrect. A couple of examples: A Japanese guy who is ashamed of his heritage insists that he is “American” – not Asian and not Japanese. A Mexican girl with a very distinct “barrio” type of accent, insists that because she has lived here for 10 years, is not Mexican, Latino or Hispanic, but a White American! It is amazing, how often I hear people who are not White, want to declare themselves as such, simply because they live in the United States.
    I say there aren’t enough entries on the census forms to please such insecure people. There certainly isn’t anything we can do to combat such ignorance in regards to heritage and culture. (PS: I am Asian-American, specifically Filipino/Persian/Chinese/Malay, and my ancestry is from Eurasia. I identify in general with the Asian race.)

    1. jacob Eagleshield3 years ago

      I agre that the term “American” does not indicate race,but neither does “mexican” yet many hispanic citizens insist on calling themselves mexican instead of American. Mexicans live in Mexico!

  24. Jenniferbell3 years ago

    Why not just ask if we are US born American citizens and as far as race, we could check off more then one box as many people are a combination. I have met some pretty dark italians and greeks whose dark skin is far darker then mine but yet they check off white. As far as heritage that shouldnt matter where ancestors generations ago copulated conceived and birthed their children. The census should be about who was born here as a citizen and other meaning hispanic, european, african, middle eastern, asian immigrants not born here whether naturalized citizen or not. It is really unfair to be clumped in and categorized with everyone because of ancestory. So even if we are here for generations, we will still be clumped in with a family that snuck across the border. Is Thomas Jefderson considered an american or English or British, how about Abraham Lincoln, is because of his ancestors, is he considered English from England? At what point does one consider someone an American? Why is it that when it comes to anyone with ancestors born in Europe, they are Americans but when it is someone that has ancestors born in Mexico or Puerto Rico, they are called Mexican and Puerto Rican. I think that all people born here in the US are Americans and as far as the race, well just look in the mirror and you will see that perhaps some of you that call yourself white may actually have to check off two or three boxes because you are mixed. Get a DNA and see how African raxe black you really are by percentage of DNA. Maybe forget the census altogether and get DNA data link it to the social security number and really go by majority of DNA blood.

    1. Rachel3 years ago

      Well Said! American born Spanish, Italian, greek, etc ancestory

    2. David3 years ago

      Amen Sister. I think we should just check off the American box if you were born here and leave it at that. The color of your skin or ancestors country of ancestry seems being asked in a document seems like it could only hurt and not help.

      It’s like traveling with a Blue American Passport. That means a little more at international embark depots. So the color of your skin doesn’t matter when you have an American Passport, the gates open. But back home there are people that make decisions based on criteria such as color of your skin or ancestors country of origin. Some decisions are for good like a hispanic scholarship , but then some might be for bad like I don’t want my daugther dating a black guy. At the end of the day the scholarship could probably be based on income to find those in need and the character of a man can be used to judge if he as an individual is worthy of dating your daughter.

  25. Lisa3 years ago

    I have a question I am indian with some european ancestry because my grandmother is East Indian(Catholic Christian) and she has european ancestry but my grandfather is full indian what do I say I am, indian and white?

    1. Lisa3 years ago

      Or should I just put white I mean I don’t understand back then european men came to india and had sex with the indian women why can’t indians just put white.

    2. Juan Lopez3 years ago

      They should just take out hispanic and tell the Mexicans and Central Americans to go in the Native American option, since that’s what most of us are anyways or just put Mestizo as an option

      1. Yolange Renaud2 years ago

        I agree. They should add “mestizo” as an option for Hispanics. When a form says “check all that apply” we can’t check “Native American” because we are not affiliated to a tribe, as it’s required in the U.S. These forms pretty much force mestizos to identify as “white.”

  26. Osafo D’zulu3 years ago

    I love being a Black African,no one can hurt me badly enough that i deny who I am.Everyone has new ideals on race,If you don’t wants to be an african,too bad.People can look at one and tell he is not one of their own.Blacks should learn to embrace themselves;they can not change who they are but,Blacks can change their situation,that only need a brain not color.

    1. syd vixen2 years ago

      Seriously? Have you done any research prior to having this opinion? Everyone has a percentage of Black DNA so …

  27. DFW Guy3 years ago

    The solution to the above problem is to eliminate the Hispanic category altogether. The “Hispanic” race or ethnicity is an ivention of some burocrat from the US Census Bureau, who never probably travelled 10 miles beyond his home town. According to this fake category, Antonio Banderas and Sammy Sosa are of the same race, Cameron Diaz and the guy from Machete are also of the same race, a Mexican or Guatemalan Maya indian and an Argentine person of pure Italian descentt are also of the same race, etc. etc. People need to realize that just because some of us come from a Spanish speaking country, we’re not necessarily of the same race, not even culture. Solution: Eliminate the fake “Hispanic” category and introduce the Amerindian (native from the Americas) and the Mestizo racial categories (for those who feel have enouth European blood in addition to Amerindian’s).

    1. Angel3 years ago

      You are so right!!! The US Census should seriously eliminate the Hispanic/Latino terms. About 70% of Mexicans are Mestizo, so why not use that term instead? That could also apply to the majority of the Spanish speaking countries of the American continent. Those that are fully white, fully black, Mulattoes and what not, they can still choose what they want. About Amerindian, I know it’s out of perhaps laziness, or save some space or who knows, but I would rather go for American indigenous, indigenous of the Americas or native of the Americas. The term Indian doesn’t convince me much, Columbus, after all didn’t realize that he landed in another continent.

      Just like some of us, mestizos, don’t like to be called Hispanic/Latino, I can imagine the Aztecs, Mayas, Incas and other indigenous groups not wanting to be called Indians, because they were simply not from India. When you look at a real Indian and compare it to a native from the Americas, indeed both have very dark brown skin, but facially are very different.

      With all seriousness, whatever the real purpose of the US Census is, if they really want to know what “race” the citizens of the USA is, then I suggest them to get their facts together and be efficient, be respectful towards the indigenous people of the Americas and to one’s individual ethnic backgrounds.

  28. Jean-Marc Saint Laurent3 years ago

    As the earlier comments have alluded to, We need to stop pretending race is real. Doing is only hurting any chances of possible cultural cohesion in these United States in return some non-specific goal to align people along the lines of…Income? Chances for employment?

    It’s all hogwash. It’s time for a petition to remove the question altogether. It no longer serves to define who WE are as a nation.

    1. Mariana3 years ago

      Couldn’t be said better!, race is a myth, but inequality is a fact. Conflating them is the easiest way to distract the country away from the real problems.

  29. Richard G.3 years ago

    So often we see in the media the incorrect comparison between “ethnicity” and “race”. This is particularly true when you see “African Americans” compared to “whites”. I believe this really started in the 1980s with Jesse Jackson. This is incorrectly comparing an ethnicity…”African American”…to a race “White” ( Caucasian ).

    There are many “whites” or Caucasians from the continent of Africa….particularly in South Africa. So, if these “whites” became American citizens they would be “African American”. Also, there are many black Americans who do not trace their ancestry to the continent of Africa. So, to assume they are “African American” would not be true. If the assumption is that all blacks trace their ancestry to the continent of Africa and all whites trace their ancestry to the continent of Europe, then a more correct comparison between African Americans and “whites” would be “African American” to “European American”.

    I find it interesting that you never hear the terms….Kenyan American, Nigerian American, Liberian American, etc. but you frequently hear the terms Irish American, Italian American, German American, etc.

    I believe this is all political correctness as to not “offend” anyone particularly “blacks” by call them “African Amercan”.

    1. Hazel3 years ago

      My friends who’s parents are from African countries making themselves 1st generation do refer to themselves as Nigerian American, Ghanian American, etc. But the overwhelming majority of black people in America who are a byproduct of slavery cannot trace their origins to one particular country, therefore you get the generic African American. And the term African American is not universally used in the community, some like myself find it to be rude. I’ve had the chance to travel and visit parts of west/north and east Africa. The consensus of the people and myself is that I am an American of African origins, but most definitely American first. So if someone has to pigeon hold me I will say that I a person who is both American and Black. Even though Black and White is the most asinine way to classify people.

  30. Meoi3 years ago

    is there somebody clever in the census bureau to understand that the world is not so much square.
    white and black no meaning, people all over the world has different shade of color.
    I’m human
    white = no melanine
    Dark black = 100% on the scale.
    But we have two feet, two ears, two arms, two eyes…I’m 44 and I discovered that this year. There are no black, no white. If a Venusian comes on earth (from Venus planet), he will see us as human, more if he has 3 eyes, 3 mouths, 3 feet…

  31. Jake George3 years ago


    1. Ana3 years ago


      Definitions of RACE by the Oxford dictionary:

      -Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.

      -A group or set of people or things with a common feature or features.

      -A population within a species that is distinct in some way, especially a subspecies.

      -A group of people descended from a common ancestor.

    2. jacob Eagleshield3 years ago

      White is not a race. It is Caucasian.Black is not a race. The technical,scientific term is “Negroid” I am a ‘first American’

  32. Findit Somewhere.3 years ago

    The best answer to any question on any survey is simple…Don’t answer.

  33. Ana3 years ago

    I am a Spaniard. Sourthen/Western European, White/Caucasian. In my opinion, the terms hispanic/latino are not only wrong regarding race (obviously, not all the people from 20 different countries of 3 different continents have the same race), but they’re also very wrong regarding ethnicity.

    Considering all the people from all these 20 different countries of the same ethnic/cultural group is just WRONG. My culture has not much to do with the culture of the native people from Peru, Chile, Venezuela or Mexico. This is the most ridiculous classification ever made. Spain is essentially a Mediterranean country and culturally speaking, it’s closer to Morocco in North Africa than to any country in America.

    So now the U.S. Census tell me that I can choose to say that I’m not Hispanic/Latino if I don’t consider myself so.
    Now, take a look at the question up there from the recent census. How could I answer NO to the Hispanic/Latino ethnicity question if my country of origin, Spain, is listed there? It would be just ridiculous, right? Of course, I’m a Spaniard; Why would I answer otherwise? but I don’t consider my ethnicity/culture similar to other 20 countries listed there, so, what should I do in the 2020 Census? I’m required by the law to answer if I’m asked, right? What is the correct answer? Could anybody help me?

    1. Roberto3 years ago

      The key here is that you can mark one OR MORE boxes, so you probably should mark BOTH “White” and “Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin”. Then you should write the SAME on BOTH: “Spaniard”.

      1. Ana3 years ago

        Thanks, Roberto. That doesn’t solve my problem though. I agree that this seems to be the only possibility for me in that inaccurate questionnaire, but what I was trying to explain is that the categorization “Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin” is wrong. Putting all these people together as the same ethnic group is simply not accurate.

        For example, I know for a fact that the vast majority of Spaniards in the USA agree with me on this topic. However, the results from the census will tell you that most Spaniards in America consider themselves latino/hispanic, which is not true.
        If you just ask one simple and wrong question and I don’t have more options, I’ll have to answer YES to the question number 8 up there and I’ll be considered as a latino/hispanic for whatever the government wants to use that stupid data. However, the truth is that I don’t consider myself under the latino/hispanic label. I don’t consider my ethnicity/culture similar to other 20 countries listed there.

        1. Hazel3 years ago

          I would think that Spainards from Spain would be European/White. And not Hispanic. Hispanic is the US context seems to be countries that were colonized by Spain and now share a similar language (even though there are huge variations). It doesn’t seem to have anything to do with culture because as you say it would be impossible. But in a world of tick boxing people are labelled into a box. I mean what does it mean to tick ‘white’ is this saying that white people even those born in the US are homogenous pod people. We’re keeping an 17th and 18th century mindset going and I fear that it is beyond too late to change it. People now think that humans are a different ‘race’ based purely on the few genes that create our physical features.

        2. Ralph McKenzie2 years ago

          Let’s face it. There are whites of European ancestry in the Americas. To think that no one from Europe set foot anywhere in the Americas south of the U.S., is ridiculous.

    2. victor3 years ago

      It doesnt matter.. Is not about genetics.. Is more about the language.. Cultural similarities between latin american and Spain.. Also influences from the past.. Many people from here in Latin America have Spaniard blood. Some even at high levels.. Ignoring these facts is complete ignorance.

      1. Ana3 years ago

        Your reply is exactly what I call ‘complete ignorance’ in the USA.

        How many countries in Latin-America has you visited to know how similar they are to each other?

        How many times have you been in Spain to know how similar my culture is to the different cultures in Latin-America?

        You say…”Is more about the language”… US Americans speak the same language than people in South Africa or British people. When US Americans visit Europe, we don’t tell them things like ‘I’ve seen your Queen, Queen Elizabeth, on TV’… How ridiculous that would be, right??

        You’re simplifying culture as language and they have not much to do with each other. Definition of culture: ‘the beliefs, customs, arts, etc., of a particular society, group, place, or time’

    3. Alex3 years ago

      Hispanic and Latino origin are not about race and only one referring to culture (even though language is a key in culture). Latino was supposed to be for people of Latin American cultures(not Spanish), and Hispanic is for cultures that “speak” Spanish (mainly for the people of Spain and the lands they colonized). It is a very vague, but simple question for such a broad spectrum of people. You are right English speaking White people are not grouped like this because marking “white” won’t feel demeaning to them. One of the main reasons these terms are on the census was because the Government didn’t want to seem racist at the time. Are you familiar with the terms Mestizo and Mulato? These are hybrids of the Native American and White race, and the Black and White race. If these were added to the census at the time, as specific races it could have seemed like an offence to people, causing trouble that the government didn’t mean or want to cause. You may ask what is the point of the Hispanic or Latino question if the “What is your race?” question allows people to pick more than one race. It may be just to pin point where you come form though it is very generic, it just places you in a group of Spanish or Portuguese speaking countries you may or may not be close to geographically (not close to in your case).
      You are right about these cultures and your’s not being the same, though some have similarities for example Mexico. though it’s culture is not the same as Spanish culture it shares similarities because it was colonized by Spain and what the Spanish did there left a lasting impression(I trust you know your history).

      1. Alex3 years ago

        sorry for my mistake I didn’t add Latino is also used for cultures that speak romantic languages such as French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, ect.

      2. Ana3 years ago

        Alex, thanks for your long reply, but that doesn’t address my question at all.

        Trust me, I know my history, what about you?

      3. priscilla pena3 years ago

        Its a confusing issue. The Spanish speaking population is a diverse group. Because there has been a history of oppression, segregation and racial inequalities against Spanish speaking people of all origins in the U.S., some people with some Spanish heritage do not identify as “white” and are more comfortable with the term “Hispanic”. Personally, I prefer Hispanic because I know from my grandmother that her ancestors came from Spain. As far as I know, going back to great grand parents, none of them were from Mexico so it is hard to identify with that classification. I know, from my physical appearance, I have native american heritage as well. However, I can not identify with that group since my culture is Hispanic and, having met true Native Americans, doing so doesn’t seem right. So I am left with Spanish origin and a Native American origin I have no right to claim and no education about even if I wanted to claim it. I have always hated this question. Good luck to you! I suggest just answering as honestly and specifically as you can and let them figure out the rest!

  34. Eddie3 years ago

    Maybe it’s time to stop collecting data on race and ethnicity, both of which are nebulous. Imprecise labels don’t work, but you can never get precise enough. Give up. Let’s just be people.

  35. Stella3 years ago

    My question is why is “Mexican” not a race option? Every form I have filled out in the last 5 years requires me to fill in the “White” option for race with no option for Latino/Hispanic/Mexican. There is always two questions, the first whether I am Hispanic or not…I mark yes(ethnicity). The second question about race, lets you mark more than 1, however, their is no option for Latinos, just “white” and sometimes “other” but not so much the first. I HATE marking “White” as my race but so many forms only have that option and I’ve had to mark it even though I am not white! I feel like its a conspiracy, some type of way of dealing with the growing Latino population, by labeling them as White 🙁

    1. Ana3 years ago

      Stella, you shouldn’t mark white if you’re not white. If you are a descendant of native people from Mexico, then you are NATIVE AMERICAN. Have you ever thought about that option?

      1. Alex3 years ago

        if you mark native american you are stating that you are affiliated with a tribe and are in contact with them. Mexico has many races she could be pacific islander for all she knew. My parents are from mexico my mother being 100% White (her family Immigrated from Spain a couple generations back and never mixed) and my father white and Native American (though I do not know the percentages am certain he might be 30% at the most). where does that leave me? I’m not sure if i have enough native american blood to be considered native american and if i found i did where would i look to make tribal affiliations here in America? just stuff to think about, it drives me crazy! I don’t mark it, I will if I find it is significantly large enough, but that’t my opinion they won’t hunt you down for marking other race and writing Marshin.

        1. Ana3 years ago

          Well, then the best option would be to ask people for their country of origin. Do you agree? That way Mexicans will be able to answer that they are Mexicans and Guatemalans will be able to answer that they’re from Guatemala.

          You’ll just need one simple question (instead of many wrong categories): “What is you country of origin?”

    2. Alex3 years ago

      Mexican is not a race it is a nationality. There are a plethora of races living in mexico. The point in the race question is to count the number of people of that race living in the country. Asking for Mexican to be a race is like asking for American to be a race. You are allowed to check off more than one box if you wish. Most people from Mexico are White and Native American, due to the Spanish colonists trying to make the indigenous cultures Spanish and civilized. Race, ethnicity, and nationality are different things. If you were born in the United States of America you are of American nationality. If your parents or their ancestors came from Mexico then you are of Mexican ethnicity. Race is where it gets confusing, especially if your ancestors immigrated. look into your family history, you may be surprised in what you find. you could be black, native american, white, pacific islander, combinations of them. What ever you find or don’t find be proud of your history, it describes you, but doesn’t make you. Don’t be quick to check off the Native American box, it requires you to have a certain amount of native american blood (like one fourth) and or affiliation with a tribe or community. though there is nothing to stop you from checking the box and nothing will happen to you if you are wrong, just try to do research before you do. you don’t want to give the government wrong information that can lead to a kid doing a research paper and obtaining the not quite right information.

  36. Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez3 years ago

    Can you please stop calling Hispanics Latinos.
    Hispanics are not Latino.
    Italians are Latino.
    You are going by a misnomer.
    Which is becoming a derogatory word.

  37. Juan Martinez3 years ago

    It is offensive to point out Hispanics as a “minority” and to constantly ask them to identify themselves as “Latino”, “Hispanic”, etc. Why are “whites” not asked where they are from? There is a huge difference between a person of Irish, Italian and Jewish ancenstry. Yet they are grouped as “whites”. This is just an example of playing with statistics to make one specific group feel as though they are in control. Get over it already. If you are an American that is all that matter. Leave the silly race questions to history already.

    1. Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez3 years ago

      Great comment.

    2. Necole3 years ago

      great comment

    3. Liza Jenny3 years ago

      Excellent point you made! Why is it that white (nonhispanic) category simply omits the question of their ancestry origin. I see this in job applications as well hispanic and then white (nonhispanic).

  38. nazifa sharifi3 years ago

    How can we add afghan (afghanistan) to the list of ethnicity?

    Afghans have been living here for the past 35 year and still not classified as correct race. I have 3 kids who go to school here and alwys have the most diffcult dicision to make .

  39. jessie3 years ago

    This is the stupidest thing ever. Haitian is a NATIONALITY same with Jamaican. Theres fully white Haitians(Regine Chassange from the Canadian band Arcade Fire), Arab Haitians (which I happen to be eg. Natalie Handal,also one of Haitis biggest bands T-Vice are lebanese/Palestinian men) chinese, and mulatto. No one is more “Haitian” than another because the original people are native americans that died and white people built the country and mixed with slaves and those slaves revolted. What the #@$ am I suppose to check off? Black? No. I am a just Arab Haitian. Ok most of Haiti is black does that mean to be a true American you have to white? NO same thing talk to most knowledgable Haitians. Its not like African Americans who have to have at least some African descent to be a Haitian you don’t have to have African descent. I am not racist I am proud of my people whether they are some black, white whatever. it just frustrates me when people think all haitians are supposed to be black as night shadows or Africans or the haitian guy from heroes. Im done

  40. Deanette James3 years ago

    I’m a little concern that most applications are trying to find out the race of people and their geographical origin. Especially when they ack are u black , African american. What that mean I don’t because it not giving a accurate date of where blacks people migrate from I am from the island a black person. And nowhere on any forms it say ofrocarribean. Black people should be recognized where they came from it give you better knowledge of who lives in country.

  41. Henn3 years ago

    I am Hispanic and so is my husband. I took a dna test. We’re Native American/various European ethnicities (not just Iberian). Mestizo should be an option for us. And our daughter just looks European/white even though we are darker/more ethnic looking. So, if either of us is alone with her, people assume our spouse is white. But we are both mestizo. Is it possible that many Native Americans were absorbed into the U.S. population long ago? How white is white? This is why I would just mark ‘other’. And the strange thing is that my sister’s daughter looks more ‘hispanic’ even though her father is American white. My husband and I are latinos and our daughter looks more European…how can we make sense of this?

    1. Crianna3 years ago

      You are worrying way too much. I say whatever percentage is the highest in your dna, that is your dominant race. Claim that. So if your daughter looks white then she is a white hispanic. Hispanic is not a race but an ethnic group. You can be hispanic and be white, black or native american. Whatever you identify with and look like, go with that.

  42. Ken3 years ago

    If I could add my 2 cents in as well as 2 types of food for thought.

    I am an American of color or an American Black or a Black American. I have had many discussions with other American Blacks about this topic. It is odd that “African American” has become the acceptable/politically correct vernacular when describe American of color born and raised for generations in this country. It has always been known that when a person who is not born a citizen of this country comes to American that their nationally or descriptive is placed before “American”. A few examples would be “Irish American”, or “Spanish American”. When these are used it is understood that the person describing themselves is first from where there were born and second becoming or has become an American citizen. For those that have generations of American born citizenship, it is more common to hear “American from Irish Decent “and so forth. With that said as an American Black who has 300 years of family ties to this country “African American’’ is not a good descriptor. “African American” is reserved for those from African’s who are in process of obtaining or has obtained citizenship not by natural means. I am no more African, Haitian, or Nigerian than I am Parisian. For the sake of simplicity there should be a category for American Black (Natural citizen born of this country) separate from African American (not born of this country). The census purpose is for accurately tracking race and ethnicity. This could also be the same for American White and White (not born of this country).
    Lastly and to end my rant is that there should be a check off for mixed raced with area to add the mix of races. For example: Mulatto, just to note the original use of this word was to describe those of Spanish ancestor mixed with other races. It has over time been used to described American Blacks and other mixes (white and black mainly). However a child born from a mix is not one or the other. I again have that experience as my son is both (American Black/White), yet he does not have a check box on the census that would be an actual descriptor. I do notice that the new census coming out is making attempts to identify the mixed group.
    Thank you for taking the time

    1. Lisa3 years ago

      Actually, there’s often a question of citizen status in the survey, and statisticians are able to categorize African Americans/Blacks and all of the races as citizen or non citizen or perhaps U.S. born or non U.S. born. When you work with stats you begin to understand the annoying simplicity of the questions on surveys.

    2. Hazel3 years ago

      I agree. I am an American first and foremost of some undetermined African background.

  43. Note3 years ago

    I am spanish/finnish/german by ancestry, but was born in Cuba. I am ethnically hispanic , but racially white. Hispanic by no means is a race. So if this happens I will not mark hispanic and will mark as white. Instead of making hispanic a race the census should use some brain and add meztiso, since thats what most hispanics who mark “other” are.

    1. Crianna3 years ago

      That term is not really used in the U.S. America is the only country that this matters so much. Just goes to show the prejudice there is here still. Go with what you identify with and look like as far as race goes for the hispanics.

  44. s3 years ago

    To me, the most obvious problem is a failure to recognize those of mixed race. If a parent classifies as one type while the other parent classifies differently, the current reporting mechanisms force a choice. Many people falling into this category will self identify as neither one. Perhaps the option to check two could be made available.

    1. Crianna3 years ago

      That is a good idea.

  45. Jeremy3 years ago

    Let me first state that race/ethnicity questions are difficult questions to ask and there are a lot of issues with the generalizations that get associated with the responses.

    Question 8 above in the graphic is asking about your cultural heritage, and not about your physical characteristics, as it relates to Mexican, Spanish, Cuban, etc. cultural influences.

    Question 9 is “generally” getting more at what are the common physical characteristics that make you who are you are and commonly take into account ancestry, but it is still self identified. The U.S. Census Bureau states “the racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically, or genetically.” I stated physical characteristics because our social definitions are typically based on physical appearance. There is still flaws in this as someone pointed out below, I could be “white”, but from South Africa. Am I African-American? White? I would generally say the person is white since they still have European ancestry, but I’m still making that decision for them and it’s not up to me.

    Do I think these categories put people in boxes that are aligned with stereotypes? Yes. Do I like them…meh. But as of right now these categories have been shown that there are very real differences between people of different races and ethnicities in the areas of poverty, educational attainment, employment, etc. These “groupings” are important until they no longer show up as an inequity.

    Also, the category of mixed race is becoming more common across the U.S. and the world. Perhaps eventually we will be just “human”.

  46. Kernos3 years ago

    I’ve usually checked other and entered ‘probably human’.

    1. Ken3 years ago

      awesome comment

  47. Mike3 years ago

    Well.. when Mexican is not listed and there’s no option for “other” and it tells me to answer BOTH questions what am I suppose to put?

    1. John3 years ago

      I was insulted by the designation White – not Hispanic on the last census and refused to answer the question per se. I entered American Caucasian instead. There is too much emphasis being placed on Hispanics when they only compromise 17.1% of the population and even less when you factor out the illegals. As far as I am concerned, you are either American or you are not. Calling someone African-American or Mexican-American is a disservice to our country. I am proudly an American of (fill in the blank). While my ancestors may have from Europe, I do not consider myself to be a European-American. That question was resolved when the United States won its independence. Its time for the PC folks to back off.

      1. Juan Martinez3 years ago

        I remember in the early 1970s when school busing was at its height, they used to ship kids like me with Spanish last names to African American neighborhood schools to fill the “white” quotas. Later on they came out with ” Hispanic” and “Latino” categories to ensure that people of Spanish ancestry were kept “in line”. The rules for the Census have always been drafted by Anglos with their racial misconceptions in mind. The day they stop asking for race will be a happy day. American (and proud) suits me fine.

        1. Ralph McKenzie2 years ago

          It see ms to me that those forces that run the U.S. Census Bureau have always sought to exclude Americans of Spanish-speaking backgrounds from being considered Caucasian.

          This is why they continue to include labels like Hispanic/Latino and Non-Hispanic/Non-Latino with every racial label. This is why I believe that the day when “Hispanic” Americans are recognized as a political and economic force, is when white Americans of Spanish-speaking backgrounds are recognized as white.

      2. Liza Jenny3 years ago

        excellent point made! I am an american 100% first and foremost, conceived here (my parents resided in New York City 20+ years prior to copulation which resulted in my life), I was birthed in New York City and raised here. My language,.culture, environment was all English language amd allegiance to the United States Flag. Im american, not european-american!

  48. P. Avion3 years ago

    The US Census’ “race” question will continue to become ever-more meaningless as long as it attempts to separate and group things in ways that have little or no meaning. There is no such race as “White” or “Hispanic.” Hispanic is a cultural identification; one may be Hispanic and Bback, Asian, etc.

    “White” means very little whatsoever.

    ***Simply rename the question “ethnic identification(s)” and create an alphabetized list of possibilities.***

    Abolish the whole “race” question. Not to be trite, but to echo the words of others here, there really is no “race” but one.

    These amorphous, misguided groupings are only guaranteed to frustrate people in ever-new ways, and every new combination will create a new omission.

    The question needs to be remodeled in a more intelligent and forward-thinking way; otherwise I fear the Census will continue to create more confusion, not less.

  49. P. Avion3 years ago

    – Your parents are Asian
    – You were raised in Colombia and
    – Came to the United States

    … would you be “Asian” or “Hispanic?”

    You would certainly be of an Asian “race,” if such a concept can even be said to exist.

    Under this new idiotic “experimental” question, you would have to choose one or the other.

    What if you’re hispanic and your parents are both black?

    These racial questions are meaningless, and need to be expunged from our national institutions.

  50. janet silcox3 years ago

    I AM diversity. All in one package.

  51. janet silcox3 years ago

    Oh yes. And those who think you are “African-American” meet my white friends who just moved to the United States and became naturalized Americans from South Africa. It just doesn’t fly!

    1. Hazel3 years ago

      I see your point. By this logic we really should STOP calling people who have been part of the US history for generations African American or Asian America, etc and just say American. I’ve been to about 6 countries in Africa and I definitely would never call myself African American because one country has a lot of tribes, different language, diverse history so being a byproduct of slavery I am never able to identify with one particularly group. I think my parents generation felt lost in a country that did not want to recognize them as equal citizens to whites. They were unable to be just Americans who are black, they needed to feel a connection to something. And the continent of Africa was it. My father said that being called African American was a step up from Negro and a huge leap up from the n-word. So do I think that American born blacks who have been in the US for centuries feel somehow more African American then people from Africa who move to the US. No. South Africa’s history of colonialization, apartide and general tyranny of the less than 9% of the white population – I’m not sure they are an example you should be throwing in black people’s faces as see they are more African then you. It’s like telling a white person who identifies as English American, see Idris Elba is more English than you. Really what’s the point?

  52. janet silcox3 years ago

    The whole subject of race is simply offensive. What does it matter what RACE or ETHNICITY a person is. With so much push for affirmative action and the all inclusive list provided by the Civil Rights Act of 1991 and additional amendments and EOs, it seems that every one is a protected class anymore. With acceptation of pure white European bloodline men, we are all a protected class. That is unless one of those guys is a VET, disabled, transgender or gay, then he becomes a protected class too. I am an American. That should be a Bona fide race by now. For Pete’s sake people. I say we all choose “other” from now on in protest of this ridiculous debate.

    1. Neil R2 years ago

      So if we are different races than it’s OK to hate? Why can’t a Black person be Black why does he have to be just like you for you to accept them?

  53. Anon3 years ago

    If they’re going to give hispanic as an ethnicity option they should have it as a race, mestizo has become a race, whether people want to accept it or not, sure there are whites and blacks who may come from Latin America, but when you think of hispanic you think of mestizo, I’m one of the people who chose other, with the growing hispanic population the census is going to have to list hispanic as a race.

  54. Min Zee3 years ago

    My father is Polish Jew and my mother is of Mexican Ancestry. I am not Hispanic, Latino, I am American as were my parents. Why is it so important to identify our ethnicity and not our nationality? Who is white anyway? What is considered black? Mexicans have always been of mixed ethnicity (weather European mix, Asian, Middle Eastern mix, depending on when immigrants of the world ended up in Mexico as opposed to the U.S…If a dark skinned Egyption, or Indian is consider “white” and a blond hair, blued eyed Mexican is not (although his ancestors at some point were) …identifiying people by “color” of skin is stupid and has always been stupid. When their are black-Americans that are also of mixed race and we only identify them by “skin color” is also stupid…I think what holds a country together and eliminates racism is to identify people as a nationality…no matter the race or ethnicity. Why is it necessary to identify someone by ethnicity. I am American…period, I pledge allegiance to this country and I am proud of it, in spite of the discrimination my ancestors felt and I have witnessed in my lifetime…In America we can at least speak out against it and try to make things right, even if it takes a lifetime….that should always be our goal…I am not who my ancestors were, I live in the present, have never visited Poland and I was not born in Mexico. I am tired of feeling like a foreigner in my own country because of my ethnic background…who cares. In such a diverse country, especially in the state of California…I am influenced by many ethnicities and enjoy their cultures, like my own, and we can celebrate our “ethnic cultures” but at the end of the day I am American and that is how I would like to be identified. My Mexican-American side of the family has certainly contributed to our country’s freedom as several of my uncles, and cousin fought in WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, etc…for the privilege to become Americans and to call ourselves American. You have called me “wetback, Mexican, Chicano/a, Mexican-American, and now Hispanic and Latina…????? I am American! all of these ethnicities make up who Americans are…and we should look beyond that…and just come together as one nation.

    1. Rosie9062 years ago

      I agree with you 1000%

  55. Gary Holliday3 years ago

    There are two thoughts here. Should our census address race and ethnicity or just ethnicitgy alone. Personally, I think that our country is made up of people who represent many ethnic backgrounds. Second our Constitution establishes that people in this country are equal, in essence a plural society. Since we’re all equal we should answer, “I am an American”, instead of Africian American, or Asian American. The Constitution does not distinguish these subgroups; however, it appears that there are many who encourage this approach to answering who we are. The idea of sub groups such as Asian American, African American, or Hispanic American tends to break down our identity to the point that many don’t knw who they are are who the should show allegience to. I’m afraid that should this country continue in this direction it will eventuall fracture into sub cultures wanting independence from the US or even yet completely destroying the United States from within. It is my belief that no country can stand if they’re divided. Rome never lost its identity and lasted for some 1,300 years.

  56. Jack Purse3 years ago

    Keep it simple. White, black, brown or yellow should be enough.

    1. John3 years ago

      There are relatively few truly black people and unless you qualify as an albino, there are darn few really white people. I don’t think I have ever met a “redskin” and I cannot recall having ever met someone with yellow skin unless they had jaundice. 🙂 The point being, the politically correct folks attempt to pigeon hole people and for what?

  57. Tired of RACE BAITING3 years ago

    Our government and certain factions of our American society is obsessed with race and color. WHY? Why should benefits and/or voting districts be determined by RACE or COLOR? We are all supposed to be equal–in the eyes of God and government.

  58. Nick3 years ago

    Please add a seperate race for Indians, Pakistanis and Afghanis. We are not Asian, we have nothing to do with Cambodians, Chinese, Koreans or Japanese. Our genes and culture are completely different.

    1. Jonathan Hilts3 years ago

      Indians, Pakistanis, and Afghanis are not *East* Asian, but are still Asian. I agree with you, however, that perhaps the “Asian” category could be more clearly divided into East Asia and South Asia.

      And much of East Asia has a lot to do with India, culturally speaking. Buddhism, historically a predominant religion of East Asia, comes from India. And in Korea, one of our queens of legend, Hŏ Hwang-ok, is said to be from India.

    2. Rosana3 years ago

      Certain ethnic groups of Nepal too!

    3. Danish Butter2 years ago

      Afghanis aren’t even clustered with Indians and Pakistanis by the US Census. They’re clustered with Iranians/middle-easterners because they are way more similar to them than they are to indians.

  59. Jeremiah K.H3 years ago

    Hispanics should be considered white even if you are dark. If you were a dark hispanic person, you should be Native American and minimally white because you wouldn’t have a hispanic last name if your’e just Native American. To clarify my answer, spanish people (europeans=white) conquer the native americans (aztecs, incas, mayans) which caused to mix genes and create people with ‘white’ and ‘native american’ ancestry. Hispanics, Italians, Germans, Irishman, etc. are generally white. The ‘white’ race generally includes europeans (irish,german,hispanics,scottish) ,middle eastern ( arabs, jews or hebrews, lebanese,etc.) and north africans ( egyptians, libyans, morrocans, etc.).

    1. Henn3 years ago

      You’re right in a way. I am dark enough that black men seem to always want to claim me as a black woman for themselves, but I am not. My dna is Native American/European as is my husband’s and our daughter looks European.

  60. Lydia L. Hays3 years ago

    The “race” category terminology is a misnomer; all humans on earth belong to one “race” — the human race. 99.9% of all humans on earth have the same genes; about 1 percent of the common genes is attributable to shading of skin, eyes, hair looks, etc., probably affected by the geographical area/climate in which the person (and preceding generation/s) lives (or has lived).

    Ethnicity comes closer to the mark of what shapes a person, including socio-linguistic, and other cultural factors. Change the paradigm away from “race.”

    1. Jonathan Hilts3 years ago

      You are correct. We have this love-hate relationship with race that seeks to diminish its meaning by pointing out how it’s a social construct, not a biological one, but at the same point, we perpetuate its importance because we know that so much of our society is built around people’s reactions to other people’s (and their own) superficial characteristics ascribed to race.

    2. Min Zee3 years ago

      I absolutely agree…change the paradigm away from race and even ethnicity.. I say.identify your nationality, not your race or ethnicity.

  61. handcrank3 years ago

    It is time the government, both state and federal, got out of the race business. It’s racism, utilized by unscrupulous people to pander to the lowest common denominator…and then pass bogus laws. Groupism is the heart of evil, a license to kill.

  62. Brandon3 years ago

    Somebody please educate me on why in 2014 caucasians and Europeans still identify as white instead of Caucasian/European American?

    1. Michael2 years ago

      Because Indians, South Asians, and Persians are biologically “Caucasian” as well though they may not be “white”(some are). So Caucasian is the incorrect term and they just go with the more phenotypic “White”

  63. MarTan WatBur3 years ago

    If the point of the census is to identify for race and ethnicity, then why not have a blank box that allows people to self identify? This would negate the current issues of the inadequate categories that people are forced to be boxed into and provide a more accurate census.

  64. ET3 years ago

    I guess I havent really thought about why this is such a big issue- plus, all the categories have always been so vague. What will change or what impact will this have? What do they use or need this information?

  65. grad student3 years ago

    Having to select a race on the census form can be seen as institutionalizing the marginalization of non-white, socially constructed race groups. Furthermore, what is the purpose of these changes and whose interests do the changes serve?

  66. HH3 years ago

    I find it interesting that although we agree that race is socially constructed, we are still trying to impose these notions of ‘one race’ and ‘one category’ to a population of Americans that are constantly changing- constantly mixing, and constantly pushing the boundaries of what categories of race mean, and the range of peoples who are, and can be included.

    1. Raceless3 years ago

      Personally think that eliminating ALL mention of race/ethnicity would be a healthy beneficial change for all of us. Make it ILLEGAL to even bring up race or color, and maybe all the current race-baiting and whining would die down. We have more important problems to focus on, and RACE/COLOR is a deliberate distraction away from our focus on our real problems, as a nation and as people trying to live our private lives. FORGET RACE!

  67. Patrizio Cavaliere3 years ago

    Why not have a seperate category for Mediterranean and Middle Eastern people?

    “White” refers to the Nordic subrace.

    1. Jeremiah K.H3 years ago

      it is because middle east are too close to europe and generally europeans and middle easterns have very common genes.

      1. Irene Winstock2 years ago

        There ARE genetic differences between Europeans and Middle-Easterners.

        Europeans range from 20 to 50% (higher in Scandinavia and Baltic states, lower in Greece and Southern Italy) West Eurasian Hunther Gatherer (WHG) admixture, meanwhile Georgians, Armenians, Azeris, Ossetians, Turks, Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese, Cypriots, Iranians, Saudis, Egyptians, Morroccans, ranges from 0 to 10% WHG blood.

        In the other hand, Jews, Moroccans, Algerians and Tunisians ranges from 15 to 20% WHG.

  68. Jorge Ramos3 years ago

    What was the purpose of ever providing Hispanics, and only Hispanics, with a separate ethnic category? According to Pew’s own research, it isn’t the prefered way for us to identify ourselves –most of us prefer national origin. The only reason I can think of for adding this category on the census was to unfairly give us outsized political weight.

  69. Stephen Higley3 years ago

    Why not ask Hispanic or Latinos if they are Mestizo? Mexico is approximately 10% White (the elite that generally don’t emigrate); 60% Mestizo (white + indian) and 30% Native Americans. Blacks/White people in Latin America are sometimes referred to as Zambos.

    What is the problem? Are we afraid to use the term Mestizo?

    1. Johnny U3 years ago

      Some may be uncomfortable with using a term that originates in the Spanish Caste System, but you are right that “Mestizo” would be most accurate in describing the mixed heritage of Latin American-origin populations and their descendants. This is not just the case in Mexico. The term no longer signifies a 50/50 split (European/Native American), it has become a catch-all for any admixture.

      1. Jeremiah K.H3 years ago

        europeans=tech. white= all hispanics are have white ancestry

      2. Carmen3 years ago

        Mestizo refers to people who are Spanish and Indian. It’s not a catch-all for any group.

    2. Jeremiah K.H3 years ago

      i agree with you.

    3. Henn3 years ago

      Yes, it seems like people want to label mestizos ‘black’ or ‘white’ in this country. It poses a problem when a person is too dark to be considered ‘white’, but is not African or a ‘light-skinneded black person’. Amerindian is a race that still exists. It is alive and well, believe it or not, even though I have argued on the internet before with black guys saying it is a ‘dead race’!

    4. Iria Rodal Bellot3 years ago

      MAYBE because you never heard that there are more Black Americans Americans in Latin American than in the U.S. alone.

  70. Brian Wood3 years ago

    That 6.2% of the public in the most diverse nation on earth can’t find a suitable ready-made race or ethnicity category on the 2010 form by which to label themselves does not bother me. What does bother me is the idea that this 6.2% represents an error in the survey instrument, which can be corrected by providing yet more check-boxes and labels. Providing new categories of race or ethnicity won’t overcome the fundamental problem of defining what either race or ethnicity actually mean — either to the people self-reporting these data or the analyst or member of public trying to understand the data that result. Perhaps 6.2% of people who mark “some other race” are educated enough (maybe they took a single Anthropology class in college?) to realize that the question itself is broken. Race and ethnicity are poorly-defined concepts which conflate biology, development, language, geography, and other aspects of self-identity. Asking such a poorly defined question, and you should receive poorly defined answers.

    1. Walton Bray3 years ago

      This could not have been any more well said. I clicked on the article hoping to see that that the Census Bureau is moving more towards measuring self-identification, and was surprised to see that instead the goal is for people to feel more encompassed by a “race,” an idea that is not well defined to begin with since, as you mentioned, the social definition of race combines several aspects of culture and heritage that allow for contradiction and confusion for people trying to identify themselves within the provided categories.

  71. Migdalia DeJesus Torres3 years ago

    Why pursue categories and labels that are inadequate for the task at hand.
    They are often resented by those who should be properly identified.
    The use of the category ‘race’ is not accurate since all humans belong to the same race-homo sapiens sapiens. There are no sub-species of homo sapiens sapiens on earth as we today know it. The idea is to identify color, ethnicity and place of origin. In the case of Latinos there may be several identifying problems that need to be ironed out before the appropriate identity is reached. The categories need to be simplified and accurate.
    No one wants to be identified as a sub-species.
    Migdalia De Jesus Torres

    1. Peter W3 years ago

      These are rather bold assertions about species and race, which you then confuse. We use the term ‘race’ instead of sub-species to show that there are different strands, I think. It’s fairly obvious and accepted that there ARE different (genetic) strands, surely – Chinese/Asians and Africans and Nordics are very different, even if they are the same homo sapiens – which may not be 100% uniform either!

      The purposes and political and budgetary implications of these categorizations – are explained in the article. Apparently it is necessary to trace at least one generation back to discover people’s origins, although perhaps citizenship should be the main criterion.
      I expect it is illegal immigrants who do not wish to reveal their (Hispanic etc) origins, as much as a resistance or being offended about their race/species. If we were all equal, and equally sure of our genealogy and (national/linguistic/religious) origins and so forth, then it would be much easier to box us all. Maybe it’s only the dominant types who wish to count and have invented ways to do so?
      But when/where so much miscegenation has occurred and so recently, and it appears so many new generation are of mixed breed/blood, then inevitably confusion is going to occur. The old labels did not seem to fit even me and I somehow objected to being w’Caucasian’ too. Sometimes, we simply do not know. But at least I knew who my parents were, and where from, and they were from a similar background to mine.

      Open ended Self reporting now would entail a vast amount of coding and reading of quite intricate descriptions I should imagine – mother was X and father (if known) was Y, and he in turn was a mix of A and B from his grandparents… they moved to the US from Country C in (date)… etc etc.

      What seems to have happened is that Governments still have countries and borders, but the dominant one (USA) is also the most keen on ‘globalisation’ and free movements of people combined with total laisser faire in terms of sexual reproduction; so the whole picture is now chaotic and hard to categorize in terms of old labels which are no longer appropriate for the new hybrid post-modern generation. (And how will the offspring of the new gay marriages be categorized?).

      In that sense, I agree that the core question is, given that social reality has run away from us, ‘Does it matter?’ and Why/how?

      1. TimeTraveler2 years ago


        The many meanings of “race”

        The modern meaning of the term race with reference to humans began to emerge in the 17th century. Since then it has had a variety of meanings in the languages of the Western world. What most definitions have in common is an attempt to categorize peoples primarily by their physical differences. In the United States, for example, the term race generally refers to a group of people who have in common some visible physical traits, such as skin colour, hair texture, facial features, and eye formation. Such distinctive features are associated with large, geographically separated populations, and these continental aggregates are also designated as races, as the “African race,” the “European race,” and the “Asian race.” Many people think of race as reflective of any visible physical (phenotypic) variations among human groups, regardless of the cultural context and even in the absence of fixed racial categories.

        The term race has also been applied to linguistic groups (the “Arab race” or the “Latin race”), to religious groups (the “Jewish race”), and even to political, national, or ethnic groups with few or no physical traits that distinguish them from their neighbours (the “Irish race,” the “French race,” the “Spanish race,” the “Slavic race,” the “Chinese race”, etc.).

        For much of the 20th century, scientists in the Western world attempted to identify, describe, and classify human races and to document their differences and the relationships between them. Some scientists used the term race for subspecies, subdivisions of the human species which were presumed sufficiently different biologically that they might later evolve into separate species.

        At no point, from the first rudimentary attempts at classifying human populations in the 17th and 18th centuries to the present day, have scientists agreed on the number of races of humankind, the features to be used in the identification of races, or the meaning of race itself. Experts have suggested a range of different races varying from 3 to more than 60, based on what they have considered distinctive differences in physical characteristics alone (these include hair type, head shape, skin colour, height, and so on). The lack of concurrence on the meaning and identification of races continued into the 21st century, and contemporary scientists are no closer to agreement than their forebears. Thus, race has never in the history of its use had a precise meaning.

        Although most people continue to think of races as physically distinct populations, scientific advances in the 20th century demonstrated that human physical variations do not fit a “racial” model. Instead, human physical variations tend to overlap. There are no genes that can identify distinct groups that accord with the conventional race categories. In fact, DNA analyses have proved that all humans have much more in common, genetically, than they have differences. The genetic difference between any two humans is less than 1 percent. Moreover, geographically widely separated populations vary from one another in only about 6 to 8 percent of their genes. Because of the overlapping of traits that bear no relationship to one another (such as skin colour and hair texture) and the inability of scientists to cluster peoples into discrete racial packages, modern researchers have concluded that the concept of race has no biological validity.

        Many scholars in other disciplines now accept this relatively new scientific understanding of biological diversity in the human species. Moreover, they have long understood that the concept of race as relating solely to phenotypic traits encompasses neither the social reality of race nor the phenomenon of “racism.” Prompted by advances in other fields, particularly anthropology and history, scholars began to examine race as a social and cultural, rather than biological, phenomenon and have determined that race is a social invention of relatively recent origin. It derives its most salient characteristics from the social consequences of its classificatory use. The idea of “race” began to evolve in the late 17th century, after the beginning of European exploration and colonization, as a folk ideology about human differences associated with the different populations—Europeans, Amerindians, and Africans—brought together in the New World. In the 19th century, after the abolition of slavery, the ideology fully emerged as a new mechanism of social division and stratification.…