March 18, 2015

Where Christian churches, other religions stand on gay marriage

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) joined other religious groups Tuesday in a vote that formally sanctions same-sex marriage. The 1.7 million-member church voted to amend its constitution to allow gay marriage ceremonies, a move widely anticipated after a step the church took last summer to allow its clergy to marry same-sex couples.

The debate within the church has already led some congregations to break away and join other, more conservative Presbyterian denominations, and the vote could prompt even more defections. At the same time, the church’s decision could influence other centrist and liberal mainline Protestant churches that have grappled with the issue but have not formally agreed to allow same-sex unions.

Where Major Religions Stand on Same-Sex Marriage

In the past two decades, several other religious groups have moved to allow same-sex couples to marry within their traditions. This includes the Reform and Conservative Jewish movements, the Unitarian Universalist Association and the United Church of Christ.

At the same time, many of the largest religious institutions have remained firmly against allowing same-sex marriage, including the Roman Catholic Church, the Orthodox Jewish movement and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as well as the Southern Baptist Convention and other evangelical Protestant denominations. (Pew Research Center has published a fact sheet on religious groups’ positions on same-sex marriage.)

Among the four largest mainline Protestant churches, the same-sex marriage debate has not been so simple. The Episcopal Church, the United Methodist Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) and the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) (not to be confused with the Presbyterian Church of America, which opposes same-sex marriage) have wrestled with the issue for years, often as part of a larger debate on the role of gays and lesbians in the church.

And while all of the major mainline denominations now allow gay clergy and welcome openly LGBT members, only two of these churches, the Presbyterians and the Evangelical Lutherans, have sanctioned same-sex marriage.

This is not the case for members of the mainline Protestant churches. A solid majority of people who identify as mainliners now favor allowing gays and lesbians to wed. In a survey we conducted in September 2014, 60% of mainline Protestants now say they favor same-sex marriage, up from just 34% a decade earlier in 2004.

Prior to Tuesday’s vote, both the Presbyterians and the Evangelical Lutherans had given their ministers the option of marrying same-sex couples. The vote Tuesday by the Presbyterians formalizes this policy by adding it to the church’s constitution. The decision, which will take effect in June, also allows clergy to opt out of marrying same-sex couples.

Of the two remaining major mainline Protestant denominations, the Episcopal Church has come closest to sanctioning gay marriage. In 2012, it passed an official liturgy for blessing same-sex unions that largely resembles a marriage ceremony without officially being one.

The United Methodist Church does not allow same-sex blessings or marriages. But the United Methodists also have been intensely debating the issue, particularly in the past year or so, after a church court tried, defrocked and eventually reinstated Frank Schaefer, a Methodist minister who had performed a same-sex marriage ceremony for his gay son. Schaefer’s case has split the church, with some clergy flouting the rules and marrying same-sex couples and other, more conservative members threatening to leave if the church does not hold to its current rules prohibiting gay marriage.

The Presbyterian, Episcopal and Lutheran churches also have endured similar turmoil over gay marriage and similar issues, with some more liberal congregations and even bishops allowing actual marriage ceremonies (as opposed to blessings) in their churches and other, more conservative congregations and bishops officially leaving their national church to protest what they see as its growing acceptance not just of same-sex marriage, but of gay ordination and other related issues.

This is an update of a blog post originally published June 18, 2014.

Topics: Christians and Christianity, Gay Marriage and Homosexuality

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  1. Ken5 days ago

    Only a sinner who has turned from his sin and put his faith in Christ is a member of the body of Christ (the church). “For by one Spirit (Holy Spirit) are we all (those who are saved) baptized into one body (the Church)….. Those professing Christ are the ones saved. Those who profess sin are not. We are either in Christ having turned from our sin or we are not in Christ and are lost. Whether we join a certain denomination or religious organization is not a reliable indicator of who is in Christ and who is not. By your fruits you will know them. And professing that homosexuality is not a sin and is acceptable to God is contrary to the word of God. I suggest all sinners turn from their sin and put their faith in Christ.

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  2. christenson1 week ago

    same sex marriage is a demonic ceremony ! end of discussion. ! no spin no lies ? can t handle the truth?

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  3. William Thornton1 week ago

    I find it interesting that you choose not to recognize that the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest of all Protestant Denominations does not in any way bless or recognize Gay marriage or gay ministers. Those churches that have embraced homosexuality in marriage or ministry have been disassociated with the rest of the convention. This is by a large margin the majority of Protestants.

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  4. Pia Francisco2 weeks ago

    And just so I am absolutely crystal clear, I think incest is sick, wrong, and disgusting, even though the Bible condones it. In fact, one of the sons Lot had with is daughters, Moab, gave rise to the Moabites, of which Ruth was a descendant, and King David was a descendant of Ruth, and Jesus was a descendant of King David, so… Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty convincing stamp of approval on the part of the Bible.

    Genesis 35-37

    So they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger arose and lay with him; and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose. Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father. The firstborn bore a son, and called his name Moab; he is the father of the Moabites to this day.…

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    1. Marx Hausen1 week ago

      It is clear that you are not up to date with the Bible. The New Testament is the order of the day. You place too much emphasis on the old. It is the New Will and testament now!

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  5. Nathan Michon2 weeks ago

    Its interesting that Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism are all lumped into a single box as if they have no denominations with different views within this presentation.
    If Christianity was treated in the same way within this infographic, it would go into the category of “no clear position”
    Speaking as a Buddhist studies doctoral student, I can say there are many Buddhist groups which overtly approve of and conduct same-sex marriage ceremonies. There are also groups which will not hold such ceremonies … and there are Buddhist groups who do not hold weddings at all, considering it simply a legal bond outside of the religious sphere.
    Like Christianity, as a whole tradition, Buddhism does not have a consistent standpoint. However, if the graph broke Buddhist schools down into individual traditions like it did for Judaism and Christianity, they could fit more easily into specific opinions.

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    1. Marx Hausen1 week ago

      You are wrong. There are different sects of Islam I know from personal experience. I cannot comment on Buddhism but I am sure there must be variations because of human beings having diverse attitudes and practices. People find fault with Christianity. This I would not worry too much about because Jesus has already differentiated what is right and wrong. The people of His day bought and sold in the temple but he overturned tables and threw out money changers. You cannot cling to what people do or desire.

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  6. Larry2 weeks ago

    Christian churches don’t allow gay marriage so if a church allows gay marriage its simply not Christian.

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    1. JJ2 weeks ago

      John 5:22-24 | HCSB

      I beg to differ and the fact that you stand against other Christians is divisive: instead of trying to save those in need of saving you’re casting stones toward those whose strength you cannot imagine and whose beauty to God is beyond fathoming.

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  7. DL Foster3 weeks ago

    Why publish this when it is so woefully inadequate. Several significant and influential American religious bodies completely ignored. Specifically, your research does not cite one African American religious organization. Dont black churches matter or is this just about white churches. If so, you should amend your research title.

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  8. FollowerofJesusnotsociety3 weeks ago

    by Matt Slick
    PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME TO READ THIS ARTICLE!!!! VERY POWERFUL!
    The Bible doesn’t speak of homosexuality very often; but when it does, it condemns it as sin. Let’s take a look.

    Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”1
    Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them.”
    1 Cor. 6:9-10, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
    Rom. 1:26-28, “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.”
    Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the Bible. It undermines God’s created order where He made Adam and Eve, a man and a woman, to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth (Gen. 1:28). Homosexuality cannot carry out that mandate. In addition, it undermines the basic family unit of husband and wife which is the God-ordained means of procreation. And, believe it or not, it is also dangerous to society. (See, Is homosexuality dangerous?)

    Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a heavy judgment administered by God Himself upon those who commit it and support it. This judgment is that those who practice it are given over to their passions and believe its lie, which means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins.

    “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error,” (Romans 1:26-27).

    As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing, will not seek forgiveness, and will not repent. They will die in their sins and face God’s righteous condemnation.

    But their rebellion against God does not stop there. Those thus judged also promote it and condemn others who don’t approve of their behavior.

    “…and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them,” (Rom. 1:32).

    So, in their “hearty approval” of homosexuality, they encourage others to accept their practice; and thus their sin spreads. In this, they will reject the ways of God and stand in opposition to Christ’s redemptive work on the cross. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, they will have no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal Hell. We don’t want this for anyone.

    Is this politically correct?
    No, the Bible’s view of homosexuality is not politically correct. Society says that there is nothing wrong with two people “just loving each other.” They ask who are we Christians to judge them? But, we ask who are they to say what is morally right and wrong? Do they have an objective standard of morals that all people should follow? No, they don’t. They appeal to things like “society” and “common sense” and “basic rights,” to promote their opinion of homosexual normality. The problem is that societies have been wrong before (Nazi Germany, anyone?). What is common sense to one person isn’t necessarily common sense to another. And, basic rights? Well, we all have basic rights. But, the homosexuals want special rights. They want laws passed to protect their sexual behavior. They also want to redefine marriage and have everyone else to accept it.

    Will the redefinition stop with homosexual marriage? Don’t bet on it. Pedophiles are now asking for rights, too, and they are using the same arguments initially presented by the homosexual movement decades ago2).

    Think about it. The pro-homosexuals want laws passed to protect a behavior. It is, after all, homoSEXuality. I want to know what right do the politically correct, pro-homosexual minority have to impose their values on the majority? What right do they have to condemn Christians, call us names (homophobes, bigots, etc), and be so very intolerant when we say their behavior is a sinful? They don’t have sound arguments. But they do have emotional ones fueled by liberal dogmatism. They are successfully getting homosexuality promoted in schools, TV, and movies as “normal” and healthy. Healthy? Check out the health statistics of homosexual behavior. As a result, their confidence and successes have pumped up their bravado so much that they even oppress those who oppose homosexuality, a fact blatently ignored by the double-standard-liberal-media. But what are we to expect when dogmatism is king and all opposing views are condemned? The pro-homosexuals want everyone to think like them and approve of their “inborn sexual orientation”; and if you don’t, well, then you’re labeled a bigot–and worse! What they want is for everyone to think that homosexuality is normal. After all, it exists in the animal world, doesn’t it? Yes, it does, and so does eating their young and canibilism. Just because animals do it, doesn’t make it morally right.

    But, believe it or not. We, Christians, aren’t judging homosexuals. We are informing them. God has declared that homosexuality is a sin. It isn’t our preferences we’re declaring. It is God’s. I know. I know. Some will say the Bible isn’t true, that it is archaic, sexist, homophobic, etc. I’ve heard it all before. Kill the messenger and let’s all jump into bed together and have our fun. Sorry, I’m not interested in freedom without responsibility and the resulting promiscuity and diseases and oppression that accompany the politically correct, sexually promiscuity of liberal morality. Instead, I’ll follow my Lord who calls all to repentance (Acts 17:30), myself included.

    Homosexuality is a sexual orientation
    Homosexuals will say that they are born the way they are, that it is a genetic orientation, and since they didn’t choose it, it cannot be wrong. If that is the case, then why do identical twins, with identical genetics, not have uniformity of sexual orientation? This proves it is not genetic.3 But let’s not stop there. What if I am born with a genetic orientation to dislike homosexuality? Is that okay? If it is not, then why the double standard? Would it then be okay for me to want laws passed to protect my “homosexuality aversion orientation”? Or, is only their orientation worthy of protection?

    Just being born with an orientation doesn’t mean it is okay. If I am born with the orientation to lie, does it mean lying is okay? Of course not. Should I demand national rights granted to me because of my lying orientation and its resulting practice? Again, of course not…..carm.org/bible-homosexuality

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  9. Emily Leavitt3 weeks ago

    PewResearch apparently did not do a thorough research! American Baptist Churches-USA do not prohibit same-sex marriage. Their is no hierarchy in the ABC-USA. Every individual church congregation has the freedom to set in their own body policies and those policies do not reflect on other ABC-USA churches. There are ABC-USA churches right here in Massachusetts as well as other states in New England that are Welcoming and Affirming, performing same-sex marriages, and there are also ABC-USA churches who just have no policies in this matter.

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  10. Jim3 weeks ago

    Buddhism exalts celibacy as the ideal and portrays infidelity within heterosexual marriage as wrong. Hinduism exalts both celibacy and heterosexual marriage and portrays infidelity as wrong. Some modern yogis and lamas may bless a lifelong same-sex union, but that rests mainly on silence and the lack of centralized authority in Eastern religions generally.

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  11. Kaleb3 weeks ago

    Any church endorsing that which goes against the Word clearly isn’t in the interest of what Christ teaches. Societal shifts are not reason to deviate from the Word.

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    1. Pia Francisco2 weeks ago

      I sincerely ask that at least one among the many apparent Biblical literalists posting here explain why the Bible apparently condones incest (i.e., Lot and his daughters) but does not condone homosexuality. If the story of Lot and his daughters is open to interpretation and/or contextual reading, then why are the other parts of the Bible cited here to justify hatred of homosexuality not open to interpretation? Please explain.

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      1. Marx Hausen1 week ago

        Bible does not condone incest. Practices were eradicated with Jesus so read the New Testament and STUDY.

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    2. JJ2 weeks ago

      By the “Word” you mean the bible? If so, then you might want to be informed of the fact it isn’t one “word” but many words given by God and revealed to man over a long period of time. The “clear words” you read… Are actually translations of translations of real events and metaphorical cultural allusions deeply embued with meanings not fully understood and feebly wielded by those who claim to know something. A simple point, walk to the bible/ religious section of your local bookstore. Notice different translations. Done(?…that’s up to you).

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  12. Lawrence3 weeks ago

    What the study understates–in fact all but ignores–is the diminishing numbers, role and influence of the older “mainline” denominations vs. Catholics, Orthodox, and evangelical groups that include emerging Presbyterian, Anglican, and other newer groups. Every “mainline” denomination listed has experienced a steep decline in members over 40 years and have aging, overwhelmingly white memberships today More conservative denominations and groups across ethnic lines have either grown much more or held steady during the same period.

    Homosexual marriage is not the driving force behind this shift–a trend for four decades. Broader theological differences are at play. A new alignment toward unity is paradoxically occurring among Evangelicals, Roman Catholics, Orthodox, and newer Presbyterian and Anglican groups. Theologically liberal groups–the older “main-line” groups are being left out of the emerging ecumenical movement world-wide.

    Even IF homosexual marriages were sanctioned in some of the more conservative/orthodox churches, the overall theological divisions are deep and would remain. Church renewal us not happening in the theologically liberal main-line groups.

    That us the story being missed in these discussions.

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  13. Penny Kendezejeski3 weeks ago

    The Presbyterian Church in America or PCA broke away from the PCUSA years ago because of he liberal views of the PCUSA. PCA is very orthodox (biblical) in its views and marries only male and females and Christians.

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    1. Lawrence3 weeks ago

      In addition to the PCA, other Presbyterian groups, notably the E PC (Evangelical Presbyterian Church) also are growing as more “refugees” leave the PCUSA.

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  14. Barbara3 weeks ago

    I want to know what the difference is in the sin of homosexuality and the sin of divorce or the sin of adultery or the sin of judgement? Sin is sin is sin. God did not condone divorce and look at the staggering numbers of divorces. It says that when you do divorce (properly) that you should not remarry because that is being and adulterer. If we are to call one thing a sin then lets go back to scripture and call everything that is sin a sin and throw everyone who has sinned out of the church!

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    1. Lawrence3 weeks ago

      Indeed! As a theological conservative I nevertheless think homosexual sex has been overplayed in terms of the silence of the church on other issues of sexuality behavior–especially de-emphasis on marriage and silence on adultery. Yet the fact that we all sin and are imperfect does not mean the church should sanction behaviors that are wrong. There is grace in our sins, but the church has no ceremonies “celebrating” divorce, adultery, or co-chair aging outside imperfect marriage. Homosexual marriage dies just that.

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    2. ken jones3 weeks ago

      Sincerely, I think you have missed the point. I’m divorced (although I did not pull the trigger) and remarried (47 years ago), but I confessed my sin, asked forgiveness and firmly believe that I’m okay. Confession is the name of the game. If a sinner, adulter or gay) confesses, I believe he or she is safe.

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  15. Pr. Steven P. Tibbetts3 weeks ago

    Uh, just what are your criteria for “major religion”? You’ve got a list here that doesn’t distinguish between religions with a billion adherents (some with numerous sub-sects) around the world on one hand and associations with a couple hundred thousand at most on the other. Most seem to have some sort of historical impact in the US (albeit some only recently, others mainly in the past), yet none of the historic African-American and/or Pentecostal churches are included.

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    1. Rhonda3 weeks ago

      Not only does the article ignore Eastern Orthodoxy, it ignores the worldwide churches, predominately African American denominations, emerging conservative zPresbyterian, Anglican and utter groups. The article focuses on liberal denominations comprised of older white, North American people like me!

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  16. bill3 weeks ago

    A civil union with similar tax advantages is reasonable but the Bible is clear about the

    disgrace of homosexuality and states that such will not inherit the kingdom of heaven!

    DO CHURCHES NOT READ OR BELIEVE THE BIBLE!?

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    1. Richard Shubert3 weeks ago

      Where does Jesus say anything about homosexuality?

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      1. Green Ant3 weeks ago

        Speaking about marriage: “[Christ] answered, ‘Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female'” – Matthew 5:7

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    2. Colleen Harper3 weeks ago

      I would hazard a guess that YOU don’t believe all the Bible literally. After all, I haven’t heard any Christian recently stoning a wayward child or putting to death any woman who was not a virgin on her marriage night.

      EVERY Christian denomination decides how they will interpret the Bible and individual verses. This is the exact reason we have so many protestant Christian denominations. Because NO two Christians can agree on absolutely everything.

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  17. Brenda3 weeks ago

    The ELCA does not allow the minister to make the decision. It’s the congregation’s decision in consultation with the minister. The asterisked description is not accurate.

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  18. Jaylani Adam3 weeks ago

    WOW……I am amazed that Buddhists and Hindus don’t have clear positions about same-sex marriages and same-sex unions.

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  19. Nick V3 weeks ago

    Part of me doesn’t want to comment on this. Part of me wants to cry. I am a Christian. I do my best to read the word of God, and sometimes I falter. Yet, whenever I pray and ask God for guidance about this issue in particular, I always get a clear and powerful answer. The Bible is the main foundation of first Judism and later Christianity. The Bible states that man is inherently born of sin. Therefore, even the most devout of believers is in some way tainted. Including the men who wrote the Bible. This leads me to think. We are made to think(hence the brains), so that to me means that we will have to figure some things out on our own. Meaning keeping God in mind, but thinking and making decisions for ourselves, for the good of all people. I try to shadow my life towards what Jesus teaches.(does not say one thing about homosexuality) then I look to the 10 commandments (again no reference directly to himosexuality) next I take a look at when this book was written. During the time period, it was socially impossible to have a caring, loving, and meaningful homosexual relationship. Again Not Possible, most gay relationships were purely about satiating sexual needs. This is simply not true today. Gay people can and do love eachother, truly. They have just as much relationship issues as straight couples. If they love God, I will not be the one, and no one should, to have the gall to speak for God on this issue. I love the Lord with all of my heart, mind, soul, and strength. As I write this I feel His approval wash over me. So enough with the self-righteous condemnations. I dare every human Christian or not to love their neighbors as they love themselves, and take a step out of your dogmatic perspectives. God will be the judge in the end, I know this, and I know that my God is full of love, and the fact that I try to show the same love to everyone will mean something. This I do believe.

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    1. Jose-3 weeks ago

      To Nick-I am replying to your comment mainly because it got my attention and i want to do it in a very respectfully way. Basically i want to share something i considering very important due to the fact that the issue is relevant in this period of time of history of mankind.
      First,your comment is very interesting because it expresses sincerity from your perspective,besides some facts that are really true,for instance, the fact about being judgmental to others.
      Second,There are issues that are very delicate like this one in particular,but if we are really looking for the truth,there is not a better place to looking than the Bible.

      Now,as I said,I just want to share my point of view,as we would have a conversation.If we are accepting the bible as the ultimate authority because it came from God we really need to read it very carefully and trying to discover God’s will.

      I have been reading the Bible since I was a child and something that is very clear to me is the fact that God wants to save every human being that has been born in this planet since Adam and Eve.
      In addition God has demonstrated His love for us when He died sacrificially at the Mont Calvary.

      God is love and for that particular reason He gave us a very important and extraordinary gift which we can call it “free will”.
      With this free will we can make choices and have the capacity to use it for God’s glory doing his will and practice justice with His help -or- with the same gift that we call free will we can make choices that are evil affecting God in the first place,affecting my neighbor and myself,in other words we can choose sin.

      Once we have in our hands the Bible, we can do a better choice knowing directly from God what GOOD is and what EVIL is. Only He is the one who can tell us what is entirely correct for us.Now,in the other hand,we know that Satan wants to confuse us and lead us to choose EVIL as we know from Adam and Eve in the garden on Eden;he is doing the same today,putting the seed of confusion on people’s mind and lying about GOD’s will.He is the master of deception.

      Another fact I have learned is that God’s will is very clear in the Bible and He is very interested that we have a very clear understanding about what to do.It was very clear to Adam and Eve:’Not eating from that specific three,they had everything they need it.

      Let’s take a closely and transparent look on the following verses in the Bible in which we can see clearly God’s will about this particular situation of Homosexuality as God has established.

      Romans 1:24-31-New International Version (NIV)
      24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

      26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

      28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

      I do not want to lie to a person (man o woman) who is thinking that God will approve his behavior marrying a person from the same gender he or she belongs to…why? because if I say to them; Do not worry,God knows the situation and He loves you and he will accept that a man can have intimacy with another man if he wants to or a woman with another woman…if i am saying this to them, I will not helping them because i will lying as Satan did at the Garden of Eden when he said to Eve…”you surely wont die if you eat from that three’…if I saying to them that God will approve it,I certainly do not love my neighbor.But because I love my neighbor and I know Gods will i will share to them with love what is truth and encourage them to ask for God’s help.There are plenty of stories of people whom have success in this matter.

      Another verses to consider are the following:

      1 Corinthians 6:8-10King James Version (KJV)
      8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
      9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

      In conclusion Nick..JESUS is saying clearly in Mark 10:4-7 that a relationship is between a man and a woman.
      Mark 10:4-7-4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife.

      Every one of us needs to change on something..everyone of us needs Lord’s grace to do so.These are just a few verses in the bible about this topic.
      Last year, i felt the same as you did..inside of me were tears of sadness because Christianity today is leading to apostasy and we are the ones who need to stay firm with God’s will and teach the world the Love of God,but everything you see today it was written that will happen this way..Lets share the love of God..the truly love,which freedom us from sin.
      God bless you and my apologies for my English,i still learning.

      This topic is a long one.
      Respectfully.
      Thanks

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    2. Pia Francisco3 weeks ago

      Thank you for posting this and countering the negativity and self-importance on this forum. Some folks seem not to understand that children will read some of these comments and think God probably hates them. It is important to let these children know there is nothing wrong with them. They are beautiful children of God and God loves them exactly as they are. The fault is in the people who say hateful things because they are unwilling to challenge their own thinking and instead give themselves a cop out by convincing themselves their thinking is actually God’s thinking. They refuse to admit the Bible can and should be interpreted through the lens of modern context. If the Bible can be interpreted by all major denominations to say slavery is bad (even though Colossians commands slaves to obey their masters), that it is ok to eat pork (even though Leviticus tells us not to), and that incest is not okay (even though Lot and his daughters did it), then why can’t it be interpreted to bless the union of two loving, consenting adults who wish to care for each other until death do they part?

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  20. Amber4 weeks ago

    Judge not lest ye be judged. Matthew 7:1-3
    We can not know the mind of God. 1 Corinthians 2:16

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    1. Pat1 week ago

      It’s not judgment, it’s telling you what God says. Also read Leviticus.

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  21. Isaia 58 .14 weeks ago

    Dear friends know that history is approaching completion according to the prophecy of Daniel and Revelation, but the people who must pay more Bible study to learn how to reconcile us to God for the promise of immortality.
    Salvation is not in churches as institutions have severe reforms urgently needed to return to the biblical truth that is not fully known. We must defend the basic principles that we find in the Holy Scriptures: Law of the table or Decalogue and the faith of (in) Jesus the Messiah (Rev. 14. 12
    1 John 2. 6 God calls us to defend the truth that remains true forever. Lord bless Psalm 14. 2 & 32.8

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  22. Bruce Robinson4 weeks ago

    Our group, ReligiousTolerance.org tried to find out the will of God about same-sex marriage. We arranged a few dozen site visitors who had an active prayer life AND who personally disapproved of SSM. They prayed to God and almost all reported that God had replied. In 100% of time they reported that He
    also disapproved of SSM. At the same time we had a few dozen visitors who prayed often AND who approved of SSM pray to God. Again God responded in almost all cases. In 100% of the time God replied that He also approved of SSM. It appears that God really doesn’t care. See religiousrolerance.org/god_pray.htm

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  23. JCF4 weeks ago

    In 2015 (U.S.) English usage, I think the phrase “Approves Same-Sex Marriage” is clearer than “Sanctions Same-Sex Marriage”.

    Praying the Episcopal Church moves to the first column at General Convention this summer—it’s time for Marriage Equality! :-)

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  24. RedDoor4 weeks ago

    The PCUSA policy states that dissenting churches or pastors are able to refuse same-sex marriages. Please update the graph above with the same note as the ELCA.

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  25. Jose Velez4 weeks ago

    this is exactly what Jesus said that what happened in the last days there is no more world obedience to the Word of God the Bible states that a man should marry and woman it is an abomination for homosexuality. morality has change now they accept gays and lesbians to marry this is not the kind of place that I want to take my children or my family it is a sad situation where there are no one obeys the Word of God there will be a day we’re all of us will face judgement in front of the creator

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  26. Chris4 weeks ago

    While this data is interesting, I find the way that the chart is presented can actually create a false impression. By listing the denominations in the way that it does, it “appears” that there are almost as many denominations that support gay marriage as those that don’t, which is completely untrue.

    Why, for instance, is the American Baptist Church listed (which has 1.2% of US adults that identify as belonging) but not the Assemblies of God (1.4%). Why isn’t the National Baptist Convention (1.8%) listed as well as a denomination that opposes same sex marriage?

    It just seems that the chart isn’t telling the full picture on the number of denominations (by attendance) and their positions on this issue.

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  27. Jason Oliver Evans4 weeks ago

    Where are the statistics from the historic African American Christian denominations like the National Baptist Convention (USA), the Progressive National Baptist Convention, the African Methodist Episcopal Church, the African Methodist Episcopal Church Zion, the Christian Methodist Episcopal Church, the Church of God in Christ, and the like? This list seems very skewed if they are not represented.

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  28. PC(USA) Pastor4 weeks ago

    If you’re going to asterisk the ECLA’s position, you should asterisk the PC(USA)’s as well. The positions are practically the same. PC(USA) pastors and congregations have the right to decide whether or not they choose to perform gay marriages. There is no obligation too.

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  29. Lysingur4 weeks ago

    It should be said that Islam makes a distinction between homosexuality (a person who is gay) and gay marriage. The prohibition of homosexuality in “Islam” doesn’t actually have a sound scriptural basis and can be said to be mostly cultural (e.g. Arab). The Quranic verse on which most rulings on homosexuality are based can be interpreted in many different ways. One such interpretation is that the people of Lot were punished not because of homosexuality itself but the public (and adulterous) nature of it. Since the Qur’an doesn’t prescribe punishment for homosexuality itself, an open act of homosexuality such as gay marriage can only be punished if it is considered an act of adultery. This means no physical punishment can be prescribed unless a person comes out and commits homosexual acts “openly” (as to mean that it meets the criteria of adultery according to Islamic jurisprudence, i.e. 4 witnesses). This may be too fine a point to matter in real life but still a significant theological one since it differs from most Christian views on the issue.

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  30. Robert Martin4 weeks ago

    Why not? These days the gays have found a way to interperate the bible as they see fit. Their agenda has always been to get main stream media to accept their behavior as the norm. Religion as we know it is no longer about God, it’s about the money, well mostly about the money. Makes me think of Ceflo Dollar (now there’s an oxymoron for you) and his several million dollar airplane and extravagant trips (who doe’s he think he is, Michelle and Barack Obama?) Then there are the states that are determined to remove any reference to God off of their buildings. Also our schools no longer say the Pledge of Allegiance and of course prayer isn’t allowed. But in New York City, two Muslim holidays are now noticed and schools closed to observe them. Are we screwed up or what? Then there’s the American soldier that wrapped his newborn baby in an American Flag and caused a stir among the liberals around the nation. Guess it’s legal to burn the American Flag and stomp on it, but wrap your baby in it, no way. I guess I’m still old fashioned about believing what happens behind closed doors between two or more consenting adults is their business and why should I care. But to make up a whole new identity based on how they achieve orgasm and I’m supposed to buy it, not going to happen. Take that idea to a Muslim country and see how it flys. For now if I was a religion I guess if it increases donations, let’s let it happen. Certainly our Bible which clearly defines the basic guidelines for human relationships is now a matter on interpretation.

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  31. Joseph4 weeks ago

    I find it interesting to see a debate like this with all these self-proclaimed Christians removing slivers from each other’s eyes and forgetting the beams in their own. There are many good reasons to believe in same-sex marriage for Christians. When the word “abomination” is used in the Bible, it does not mean “something much worse than ordinary sin”. It is actually not being called a sin at all. An abomination was something that was unholy and made a person ritually unclean, regardless of sin. Shellfish and pork were abominations. Touching a dead person was an abomination. The effect of these things was for people to become ritually unclean, which had various implications about attending the temple or synagogue or offering sacrifice. While some abominations had harsh penalties, that did not mean they were regarded as sin. Typically, seven days of purification was sufficient. Not only that, but for Christians, the ritual purity laws are all done away, including proscriptions against shellfish, sideburns, mixed-fiber clothing, tattoos, kosher, homosexuality, and many others. So it is of no use for Christians to look to the Old Testament for guidance on what is and is not sin, aside from the Decalogue, which is not about purity.

    St. Paul had his opinions about homosexuality and labeled it a sin, but he frequently parted ways with the teachings of Jesus. While he did not seek to prohibit marriage, he was celibate and opposed to marriage. He said he would allow it, but he also observed that celibacy was a more holy way of living. As he disagrees with Jesus on some important points, I will subordinate his point of view to Jesus’ statements, given that I believe Jesus to be the Son of God. Jesus is recorded zero times as saying anything about homosexuality. I think he was leaving that to us to work out. It is also worth noting that the Greek words Paul used that are translated as “homosexuality” today were never used in his time to refer to consensual, monogamous sexual contact. They were used to refer to pagan temple prostitution, which involved the sexual exploitation of underage slaves. Sounds like this would be worth forbidding. But simple homosexual contact between consenting free adults is not mentioned in the New Testament. There are also, however, good reasons to consider keeping the old proscriptions. I just think a little humility is in order regardless of how one sees this issue. Telling people they are stupid or that they are going to Hell for the way they see this issue really sound like “mote removal” to me.

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    1. Robert Martin4 weeks ago

      As I stated in my post, any religion and of course the Bible is open to interpretation. Why else is there church every weekend and even more among other religions. Of course opinions run rampid, especially when one wants to tilt it their way.

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      1. Don Guizzetti3 weeks ago

        The depth and breadth of possible interpretation of the Scriptures is inversely proportional to the individual’s Biblical knowledge, continuous study, and willingness to be guided by the Holy Spirit. Almost any verse or chapter can be “interpreted” widely and even wildly in a vacuum.

        Serious hermeneutical exegesis largely limits and even eliminates most of the casual attempts at explanation which have more in common with interpretive dance that anything approaching faithful or scholarly and prayerful investigation.

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  32. Joel Frese4 weeks ago

    Time to move society forward and stop living by these low religious morals and ethics. Christians would still be burning witches had it not been for secular laws protecting people. We have higher ethics today and we’re moving forward. No need to drag us back into the dark ages.

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  33. Glenn Blackmon4 weeks ago

    I don’t think it is accurate to put an asterisk by the Evangelical Lutheran Church. Yes, it is the case that individual pastors may choose not to officiate at same-gender weddings, but you’re not reporting which denominations compel their clergy to perform certain weddings. You are reporting which denominations sanction same-gender weddings. The ELCA sanctions the marriage of two men or of two women.

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  34. Fr James Thornton4 weeks ago

    The Orthodox Church (or Churches) should certainly be listed as prohibiting same-sex marriages.

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    1. Chad Daniels4 weeks ago

      They are, it’s called the Roman Catholic Church.

      The Orthodox church is essentially the same thing is the Roman Catholic Church, without the Pope.

      They both teach the same gospel, they both reject justification by faith, they both teach the blasphemy known as transubstantiaion (do not use this term). They practice idolatry, and prayers to the dead (necromancy).

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  35. Benice1 month ago

    The biggest fear and foreseeable Tsunami is the Catholic Church following suit. When this happens, we know for sure that we are already traipsing into The pit of Hell which is open wide to devour mankind. Still, let us be brave in the knowledge that in The End even Satan has to Serve God. Let us choose whose side we are on and be true to The Word of God and never waver from it. It is better to worship at home and be faithful than to attend a suspicious church. The family itself can and should be its own Church in these terrible times. God will always Provide for the Faithful. Put on the Armour of God and increase in prayer and faith.

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    1. Anonymous3 weeks ago

      Wow. When did your sins become different then there sins when did your skin become different then there’s. When they pray there prayers get answered just like yours do. Maybe you need to get on your knees know and ask for forgiveness for judging something you have no place to speak on. You are not the one who run hell or heaven so you really don’t know what’s going to happen. You cannot foresee the future. Stop judging or you will be burning in the firing puts of hell. Love all as you want to be loved in some way or shape you are different. Love does not involve your judgement your hatred or betrayal of one thing gods wants us to do love all as his son love us enought to lay down his life.

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  36. for life of humans species2 months ago

    For those of you who think homosexuality should be accepted and praised, how do you expect the human race to survive as a species? Men and men don’t produce children and women and women don’t produce children. If you say well use artificial means, this will always deprive a child of having one biological parent married and living with the other parent. So all children in a sense will have one step parent or donor sperm or egg parent as well as maybe a surrogate to deliver the baby. My view could show homosexuality is not normal for the human species from both the scientific theory of how species survive, and the Bibles view that God will not destroy us, rather we will destroy ourselves. When every human decided homosexual relations and sexual activity is the way to go, eventually the human race will die out due to no conceiving or birth of children in a natural sense. This is my view and no counselor, researcher or other will change my perspective. I am entitled to my believes just as well as homosexuals are entitle to their own believes. Just think about what I mentioned above and decide for yourself how homosexuality is good for the survival and health of the human species.

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    1. for the survival of the world and correct grammar1 month ago

      Actually, wasn’t there 851,000 HETEROSEXUAL divorces in 2014? Leaving possibly 851,000 kids “deprived of having one biological parent married and living with the other parent”? So sad. And did you know that “98% of same sex couple’s children never have any interaction with their birth mother/ sperm donor or are not even aware of the identity of said person”? I know, you’re completley entitled to your beliefs and I respect that. But i would also like to point out that I now think homosexuality is good for the survival and health of the human species, based on what you mentioned above; because the earth is REALLY overpopulated (ex. one child policy in china) and less people=earth is around longer, global warming slows down etc. (also you said “is the way to go” and it should have been “are the ways to go” because you were talking about two things. Proper grammar is important. Remember that)

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      1. Hillary3 weeks ago

        Why did my third grade (8 year old boy)student ask: When do I get a Daddy? I have two mommies.

        Another little girl told me that she had three mommies but one left.

        I taught for 35 years. Children search for their REAL parents.

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    2. gosha4 weeks ago

      The number of homosexuals will not change. The number of homosexuals that are open to admitting they are homosexuals will. Homosexuality has always been part of humanity and like the Good Book promised, our numbers spread exponentially.

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      1. Ann3 weeks ago

        The “Good Book” you refer to or rather The Holy Bible, which is God’s FINAL WORD, declares that “Homosexuals will NOT be in heaven”! And He has not and will not change his mind. Psalm 119:89 says why…
        1 Corinthians 6:9-10
        biblehub.com/context/1_corinthia…
        Psalm 119:89
        biblehub.com/psalms/119-89.htm

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    3. Quetzl4 weeks ago

      This is a terrible argument. Look at the growth rate then tell me you’re still worried about the survival of the human race. And for what reason would people who are sexually attracted to the opposite sex suddenly become attracted to the same sex? I think you should take some time to re-evaluate your beliefs and discover why they’re unfounded.

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    4. Nikolai4 weeks ago

      Allowing homosexual marriage will not increase the number of homosexuals , nor will it decrease the number of Heteros having kids. I don’t think anyone has ever said “ohh now that gay people can marry i’m not going to have kids”. The replacement rate is 2.1 children, many families have more than 3 children. That could easily account for the number of gay people, ( it is not like population growth hasn’t exploded over the past 200 years ). Also there are gay families that do have kids , or they adopt them. A policy against homosexual marriage is almost always rooted in religious belief, and religion should not effect policy in a country built around freedom of expression.

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    5. Jon Carl Lewis4 weeks ago

      Do you have some special knowledge that gay sex is so appealing that the 90% of the population that are heterosexual will abandon straight sex in such large numbers that humans will be unable to propagate as a species?

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    6. agreed4 weeks ago

      Right, we should imprison all heterosexual couples that choose not to have children.

      Also, it is a shame that couples are only able to have 2 children, as with your logic each time there is a homosexual couple, it is less children that can be born.

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    7. Gene in L.A.4 weeks ago

      Homosexuals make up less than 5% of humanity. Allowing them to marry isn’t going to stop the overabundant flow of new babies in the world. You can’t really be that paranoid, can you?

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    8. Mich L4 weeks ago

      You are absolutely entitled to your beliefs and I respect that. Now just as you have requested we think about what you have mentioned (and I have, I assure you), I respectfully encourage you to consider my own thoughts on what you have said.
      There is no reason to assume that allowing homosexuality to be “accepted and praised” will lead to the disappearance of heterosexuality. Firstly, no one is suggesting that as we accept homosexuality we should discourage heterosexuality. Both are to be equally acceptable. Furthermore, until fairly recent societal changes, for centuries it was solely acceptable to be heterosexual and yet there are and always have been homosexual people. If homosexuality existed all the while it was only acceptable to be heterosexual, why then would you assume that if homosexuality were to be acceptable that heterosexuality would disappear?

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    9. Gerry Gentile4 weeks ago

      For life of humans species • 4 weeks ago

      “For those of you who think homosexuality should be accepted and praised, how do you expect the human race to survive as a species? Men and men don’t produce children and women and women don’t produce children.”

      Well, considering the fact that every homosexual is the offspring of two heterosexual parents, I don’t see your point.

      And as far as “Men and men don’t produce children and women and women don’t produce children” goes, that’s what artificial insemination is good for.

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  37. JJ truth2 months ago

    No church official on this earth has the power to bless what GOD Almighty, the Holy One, the LORD of All Creation has condemned as an abomination. These false churches have no holiness in them at all. The Spirit has condemned these synagogues of Satan. These wicked people have been cast out of the Kingdom with their own love of lies. They don’t read their Bibles, don’t care to know GOD and don’t follow Him. They despise the LORD GOD. He will never bless wrong & evil. These false leaders and their phony churches want to be worshipped as gods. But HE that never sleeps looks down on their evil and will not relent until these wicked false teaches suffer the consequences of their evil blasphemies and their many abominations. They live to pervert and destroy the Word of the LORD.

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    1. Jose Velez4 weeks ago

      this is exactly what Jesus said that what happened in the last days there is no more world obedience to the Word of God the Bible states that a man should marry and woman it is an abomination for homosexuality. morality has change now they accept gays and lesbians to marry this is not the kind of place that I want to take my children or my family it is a sad situation where there are no one obeys the Word of God there will be a day we’re all of us will face judgement in front of the creator

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      1. Gerry Gentile4 weeks ago

        You know, there’s something I find truly amusing about folks claiming what God had to say about homosexuality being abomination. Y’ever wonder why, if God hates abomination so much, He expects people to carry out His judgement? I mean, if it’s that much of a problem, why can’t He do His own dirty work?

        Oh, wait, that would mean He would actually be proving that He exists, wouldn’t it? Oh, and His adherents wouldn’t be able to say that they know what His Will is, anymore. Wow! I’n’t THAT a bummer. And inconvenient as all get out.

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    2. bill3 weeks ago

      JJ TRUTH is right. The Word of God is not simply concerned only about

      preservation of “culture.” Regardless of sociologically derived “practical

      considerations,” there is an almighty Word of God not to be dissected to

      fit our personal persuasions! But we are not to condemn homosexuals. We

      should love, help and pray for them. We heterosexuals are sinners also-some

      saved by God’s Grace!

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  38. Priscillia2 months ago

    Since when did opinion of the majority over rule the word of GOD. Why is the church having to vote about the issue of homosexuality which the bible and GOD clearly says is sinful. Even if 99 out 100 vote in favor of homosexuality it does not change the word of GOD.

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    1. JJ truth2 months ago

      Priscilla I agree, wholeheartedly. The Holy Bible is GOD’s Word of truth for humanity.

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    2. dtbyerly2 months ago

      A Big Amen to your comment! You speak the truth.

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    3. wed2 months ago

      God never spoke against gay marriage, man did and said it was God

      g

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      1. what is going on people3 weeks ago

        And what would u say about God destroyed sodom and gomorrah. What was the reason. You may say he never spoke of it. But He hate to say it and everyone knows it in spirit. why God ever created Adam and Eva as a men and women? Because he wants it that way.

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  39. kay3 months ago

    Even thought the bible says man on woman that doesn’t mean that there can’t be man on man or woman on woman. i don’t own slaves or wash peoples feet when they enter my house. some things in the bible are outdated and some religions need to notice that.

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    1. Miss Nancy2 months ago

      The bible has lots of verses that oppose man on man or woman on woman. Have you ever read the Bible cover-to-cover? I have provided a link for you. God Bless!

      scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/06…

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      1. Pia Francisco3 weeks ago

        Lot and his daughters fled into the hills and proceeded to have incestuous relations resulting in children. And you’re cool with using that Bible story as an argument against same sex marriage? Really???

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    2. Gwane Martin4 weeks ago

      Owning slaves is not condoned in the bible. If that were true then why did God deliver the Israelites from slavery in Egypt? Washing feet was a Jewish tradition not a commandment from God. Homosexuality is condemned in the bible as being sinful behavior not only in the old testament but also in the new testament. That lifestyle is one that misses the mark just like pre marital sex or lying or stealing from your neighbor. You seem to not understand the bible or the message that is contained in it.

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  40. Don’t change God’s word3 months ago

    Obviously, you haven’t read your Bible, don’t understand it or, you are just in complete denial and unwilling to accept God’s word for exactly what it says and unable to let go of worldly desires.we are supposed to repent of all sins and turn from this world. People that don’t want to give up homosexuality are either of flicted by a demon or are unwilling to give up sin to accept truth. The Bible states that it is no different then beastiality, incest, or child rape. To condone one would mean you would have to condone all. is this what you’re saying acceptance is?

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  41. Carlos4 months ago

    This is known in the bible as “The spirit of the New Age” its the same as the old, just resurfacing with different faces and techniques.

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  42. JaniThaxton4 months ago

    I think that everything said was very logical. But, what about this? what if you typed a catchier post title? I ain’t saying your content is not solid, but what if you added a title that grabbed a person’s attention? I mean Where Christian churches, other religions stand on gay marriage is kinda boring. You should peek at Yahoo’s front page and see how they create news titles to grab people interested. You might add a video or a related pic or two to grab people interested about what you’ve written. In my opinion, it might bring your posts a little bit more interesting.

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  43. Mesfin5 months ago

    It is no surprise that if a man thinks/acts against God’s way. Throughout history, in Noah’s & Lot’s days, people were misled by their way & punished accordingly. In this day the world should be mislead by its action so as to receive just punishment. “They(Sodom&Gamorrah) serve as an example of those who suffer the PUNISHMENT of ETERNAL FIRE ” Jude 1:7b

    “…True & just are your judgments” Revelation 16:7

    Repentance is the only way to be spared from the Coming God’s wrath.

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  44. Hanna5 months ago

    Why would God, if he indeed makes all people, make gay and lesbians if he had any intention of hating them? Close-minded people may think being gay is a sin, but did you know that there are many things in the Bible that are not relevant NOR practiced or followed today? If you would like to be respected in your own religious beliefs that is perfectly fine but since the Church and the State are separate entities in our country, it is unjust to make a law based on Christian beliefs. Don’t tread on me!

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    1. travis ressler4 months ago

      let me clear up your mistake, first of all no Christian no real Christian will accept same sex marriage at the same time no real Christian would hate on gays. You treat a gay no matter how hard it may seem like God would treat you. God is there to judge,not us. Also reading your post you’re Saying there is other things that are not practiced today that are in the Bible but not practicing it today does not make it right. It also looks like you’re trying to make a distinction trying to say same sex marriage can’t be a sin but clearly in the Bible written all over its not just a sin it’s more than a sin it’s an abomination. you’re also saying that our beliefs don’t matter in this country a lot of people are going to say we’re not a Christian nation which they are forgetting that Christians are the one that started this nation and as a Christian everything that you touch everything that you do is supposed to be acts through christ. Understanding that people are deceived all the time and this goes for homosexuality. You’re not born that way nor does science really backed that up but science is a joke of theories and if somebody can believe in evolution and all these things that just happen exactly just right for the individual but not believe in God wow.

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      1. tiara3 months ago

        i would be careful saying that no christian would agree that being gay is wrong, that would sugest the requirement of perfection before salvation. God accepts people as they are withe the only requirement being repentance, aceptance of his gift of forgivness and, as a result, a desire to do things the way god intended (trusting him with their lives and giving over to his will for their lives). part of this is accepting Gods veiws on marige. God invented marrige so it makes sence that those who trust him would follow his instructions when it comes to relationships.

        this said, the world has rejected the life God has for us and chosen to do their own thing, so it makes sence that people do there own thing when it comes to marrige. when people reject God the go after other things they think will make them happy.

        can i just say that, for those who see christians as bigots for believing diferntly from them and encoreging others to do what the bible says: if we beleive God is the only way to a fufilled life, through Jesus christ, and didn’t tell anyone we would be hipocrites. and if we blelive jesus is the only way, we do what he says. simple (and often hard) as that.

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        1. JJ truth2 months ago

          God puts His Spirit into man to begin a process of sanctification. Christians are EXPECTED to become a holy people. This is achieved with the work of the Holy Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit, the Helper gives a believer the power to overcome old sins.

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      2. Darryl Andre4 weeks ago

        “Science is a joke” but believing in fairytales isn’t? Dude, wake up.

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      3. Valerie3 weeks ago

        How dare you judge who is a Christian and who is not? I know many gay Christians in our church…some in same sex relationships, some single. They love the Lord as much as I do. A gay Christian is not an oxymoron. And neither you nor I have the right to say who is a Christian. Let God sort that out.

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    2. Carlos4 months ago

      God doesn’t make them like that. Those are choices. Same sex attraction is one thing and to act it out is another.

      Some people have many desires and don’t act on them, such as murder, hurt someone, desire another persons wife or husband, have sex outside of marriage, beastiality, and many others.

      Sexual sin is sexual sin, period, its up to the individual to constrain themselves in obedience to God plan. Man has free will, he choses the path to follow.

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      1. Darryl Andre4 weeks ago

        Man does not have free will if he must follow this god you speak of. You don’t’ get to be delusional and right at the same time. You need to pick one.

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    3. JJ truth2 months ago

      GOD doesn’t make LGBT—people make LGBT then lie about GOD. These lying jackals will have to give an account to GOD for the lies they speak about Him. GOD is Holy. He cannot lie, cannot fail nor does He make mistakes. These sinful people give the LORD GOD no holiness or reverence.

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      1. Darryl Andre4 weeks ago

        Poor JJ truth. It’s OK, God will forgive you.

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      2. Štefan3 weeks ago

        at what point did you choose to speak for God? Last time I checked it is not man’s job to judge but God alone. In that same vein, when did you decide to become heterosexual; since it is choice in your opinion? when did God come down to you and give you permission to call his children jackals? It seems to me that you haven’t read your Bible cover to cover. Perhaps you’ve never read it at all.

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  45. aajayunlimited5 months ago

    If you are even taking a vote on this issue(not to mention the worser scenarios), then either your church’s leader(s) and/or your members are mostly demonic! It is completely opposite God’s law and it is being done in the church! God made marriage between a man and a woman and the body speaks against homosexuality. Sex is for reproduction first and then pleasure. The first instance is not possible, because God did not make it that way. And with the second instance, satan has you utterly confused to think of this as pleasure(either insane or demonic)! If you are following a leader who clamors for this or a vote, then it is walking out time! If it is the congregation, then maybe it’s time to do some separating and putting out or for the unwilling members to leave!

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    1. chas4 weeks ago

      Prove God. While you are trying to do that without using the words as presented to you as “god’s words”, recall that the bible was ordered reinterpreted by King James in order to make it more supportive of the ruling class and to ensure that the “masses” would respect the authority of the kings. Ah, wait…some things are not for us to know, the mysteries of god are beyond us, god will let us know what he wants us to know, you don’t need to ask for truth, that is what faith is for-believing something with no basis other than believing it. beleive in dragons,do ya?

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  46. srg writer6 months ago

    This is not even a possibility. You cannot knowingly, willingly, go against the word of God, and then call yourself a house of the Lord. His character does not change. We cannot go along with the world, just because it’s the popular stance. The ways of this world are not His ways. Now, I’m not one of those hypocrites who harps on this one sin. There is not less grace for this sin. We are to show love not hate and witness to everyone. But we cannot approve or support any sin. Besides, pastors, those claiming God’s authority to lead, are held to higher standards. If you mislead, especially the young ones, well, held to a much higher standard.

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  47. Omaki6 months ago

    Voting in the church about homosexuality is a Demonic idea, the Church is not a political entity, but relies on the Bible, the word of God, as a manual of it’s operation and no law is paramount to that. Sodoma and Gomora where burnt because of Homosexuality, which means it is not Godly. Please keep the idea of homosexuality out of the church, the holy worship house of God.

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  48. Laura6 months ago

    Same sex marriage should only be between two people who love each other. Why can’t you all get that through your heads? God made all of us, just because it is a sin to love the same sex does not mean that we can’t ask Him for for giveness.

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    1. Danny6 months ago

      I agree totally that you can ask and receive forgiveness, part of the process must include repentance, ( turning away from sin) .

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    2. srg writer6 months ago

      Laura, as Danny said, you can ask and receive forgiveness, grace can’t be used as a free pass to sin without effort to change. And, the church cannot sanction it. They cannot allow members who refuse to repent, to attempt to put sin behind them, to be official members. It is said that if a person refuses to repent they must be asked to leave. Now I assume that a person should be given some time to make the decision before this would happen, but it is state in Romans. You can’t take what you want and leave the rest. That’s not how it works.

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    3. Don’t change God’s word3 months ago

      that is true but, think about what you just said. You just admitted that it’s a sin. Yes we’re supposed to forgive other sinners and it is not up to us to judge. The question here is why is it being deemed ok and condoned in a church that is supposed to be following God’s law. God’s law says in Corinthians that isn’t an abomination straight out of the pit of hell. How can you take that any other way? That means no church following God, ie Jesus Christ, in any way should condone this. To accept this would mean you would also have to accept beastieality, incest, child molestation. Because other verses in the bible includethose with homosexuality sexuality

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  49. rameshchauhantng@gmail.com7 months ago

    I accept christian religion.

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  50. Becktemba Kazemde8 months ago

    How many sins can a church “vote” to accept? None. Those “churches” that condone “Same Sex” marriages are not “Christian” anymore than a Basketball player can be considered a Football player that dribbles on a football field and says he his playing football.

    This is like saying The NBA votes to accept the 3 point shot for NFL teams. Both are sports but play a game with entirely different rules.

    It would be like comparing PGA golf to frisbee golf its just not logical.

    Mainline Frisbee Golfers rule that there is no out of bounds in PGA golf!

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    1. David7 months ago

      Who make you judge and jury?!? You are neither God nor Jesus, so before you judge and think that you are right, look long and hard in that mirror!!!

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      1. srg writer6 months ago

        David. We are called to hold each other accountable in the church. It’s in Romans. Therefore, actually yes, God did call us to do this. Now you are supposed to consult with other brothers, to assure that you are not mistaken, but we are to keep the church holy. Yes we are also to look in the mirror. Homosexual acts should not be singled out as the only sin to hold people accountable on. But this is the issue being discussed.

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      2. aajayunlimited5 months ago

        Why so defensive and apprehensive about homosexuality and gay marriage? That’s the kind of attitude that gets the ball rolling in the wrong direction. Wasn’t that one of Sodom and Gomorrah’s destructive flaws that brought God’s wrath down upon them? You are 1 upping them by defiling the church, too. What’s next[sarcasm]; go to church in a halloween costume every Sunday?! That’s utterly unthinkable and homosexuality–by itself–in the church is far worse. Homosexual marriage should be off the scale if outside the church, but in the church it might be very close to an assassination live in church service; live snakes in a church; or a witch/wizard going up into the pulpit! You know how bad those things would be considered in a legitimate church that takes living right very seriously unto heaven and hell!

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  51. Mateusz8 months ago

    The most hypocritical religion is protestantism. When you are hetero man and pastor you can even get marry, but in very few protestants denominations homosexuals can marry. I think few days ago maybe God only support civil union and church blessings for homosexuals, but it is possible that maybe Lord support equal right for homosexuals – same sex marriage. I don’t know. I’m conservative catholic and I must be carefull about what want God. When i will be atheist, buddhist or protestant I must support same sex marriage or when I don’t support it I will be most hypocritical and unfair bigot. But I’m conservative catholic and I only support civil union and church blessing. One reason that I don’t know to support these marriages is anger of God.

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  52. rocket9 months ago

    Hi, It disturbs me that those who want tolerance and acceptance for the life they choose to live, cannot accept that others have chosen to live a life opposite to them. Both in belief and conduct. That is understandable for those who choose to live according to the world will never understand those who choose to live according to God righteous holy ordinances. The strangest annomally is those who call themselves by His name have no fear of the consequences of their actions ( for supporting the homosexual agenda) especially the clergy, who face the double bind judgement for leading the flock astray. Only a theologian contortionist could find reasons to support the homosexual agenda.

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  53. Charles Tormos9 months ago

    Jehovah’s Witnesses, though not listed, do not accept homosexual marriages. The biblical stand on 1 Corinthians 6:9 reflects the clear statement by the Great Teacher, Jesus of Nazareth in St. Mathew gospel chapter 19:4,5 ” God … yoked Man and Woman…”

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  54. John J Flanagan9 months ago

    Sadly, so many churches are falling away. The Bible no longer is their authority, and with heretical theologians offering some twisted and distorted reasoning for the immoral and unnatural idea of two men or two women being “married” to one another…..we now face an apostasy of huge proportions in American Christianity. The Bible speaks of Jesus turning water into wine at a wedding feast. The very notion of a same gender marriage ever mentioned then or 2000 years later would offend most everyone calling themselves a believer. It is just plain wrong and used to be “unthinkable” and gross. But here we are now, in 2014, living in a land growing increasingly wicked, at a time and place when Christian churches refuse to bear any light in an age of darkness. God forgive us, because some of our American churches now hold their conservative and orthodox brothers and sisters in disdain, hold God’s word in contempt, and have joined in the chorus of the wicked to celebrate sin instead of testifying against it.

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  55. Josh L10 months ago

    The fact of the matter is that religious organizations were happy to feed from the government’s hand when it was advantageous and society was basically moral; now we see a reversal of societal roles and the same hand smacking religious liberty in the face. Now we see religious having to beg to have their so-called rights back. The same privileges associated with a religious sacrament, marriage, has become secularized and progressives with the force of government are all to happy to use that to wedge the churches out of society.

    Government has never been the friend of religion; except in times when the religious were in the seat of government. The law is theft, as Bastiat said. You go to bed with a thief and you will wake up naked.

    I am devoutly religious, and traditional, but this is the deal that was made by aligning religion with the State while accepting the special treatment.

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  56. Curt Pedersen10 months ago

    First time visitor and find it very interesting a great divide in a so called tolerant America!
    I find America is now either Black of White and I don’t mean racial B and W, I mean there is no grey area it seem to me from all the comments I have read. Can some one please show me the common grounds or the grey area!
    Maybe you are right there is none..
    Curt A Pedersen

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    1. RM8 months ago

      Curt,
      By the Homosexual activists declared strategy, their goal is to change the cultural landscape and thereby change the laws. As pastor John Piper stated, “There is no demilitarized zone pertaining to Homosexuality and Same Sex marriage”. If you don’t accept that lifestyle, you are demonized while the victim (the homosexual) is exalted. That is a strategy right out of their playbook. Recently, Tony Dungee was demonized by the Gay activists, not for what he said, nor for what he didn’t say, it was for what he thought.

      RM

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  57. Richard10 months ago

    Why is it that gay marriage states allow two unrelated bisexual rapists to get married but the law-abiding brother and sister they raped cannot get married? Likewise, why can’t two or three law-abiding adult sisters who have served their nation in Afghanistan get married?

    What business is it of anybody else what law-abiding adults do in their private life? Surely the courts will strike down laws that ban close relative marriages as they violate the constitutional rights of law-abiding adults to marry the close relatives they dearly love.

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  58. Steven10 months ago

    Homosexuality is a sin. Here is why. God when he created us made it so man and woman could reproduce. He wanted man and woman to be married and create children on this earth. We are not to marry a man because it would go against God’s wishes for us. To even question this is going against God.

    That being said, God still forgives us no matter what we choose. Homosexuals will ultimately be forgiven. We are all sinners.Everyone of us here on earth will be sinners until the day we day. No man, I say again no man on this earth is without sin. Even the Pope is a sinner. To question this also goes against God. The only one without sin was Jesus Christ. And he died for us so that we could be forgiven of our sins.

    You see, it’s a reproduction thing why homosexuality is a sin. God wanted man and woman to reproduce and be married. Let’s just put it this way. If the entire world went gay and stopped reproducing. The world would end in about 100 years. Nobody would be there to reproduce since we all went against God and wanted to be gay. Yes gays can adopt and raise a child together but how do they get that child? A woman had to give birth to it. We need women on this earth for reproduction. Same thing with women to women marriage. With no man, women can’t reproduce.

    If people want to be gay it will still be a sin, but again sin is forgiven. But I think marriage, absolutely not. No way should a homosexual be allowed to get married. Civil unions and domestic partnerships are ok. Because those aren’t the same as marriage. Marriage is a biblical institution, and to go against what the bible says about marriage is to go against God. I have gone against God in my life and the consequences weren ‘t good so I repented and got baptised and changed my ways. Not saying gays should do this but still it is good for them to go to church and repent.

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    1. Jack10 months ago

      So why don’t priests and nuns get married?

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      1. patrick8 months ago

        As far as priest go, you can not serve 2 masters. Granted, deacons now can marry, and in some communities that is the only teacher. I turned down my community wanting me to be a priest, because I like a woman, and with that comes….

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        1. JJ truth2 months ago

          The Holy Bible recommends priests marry. Servants of GOD like Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Daniel and others were married Today most priests refuse to marry because they are closeted homosexual pedophiles. Clearly there exist only a rare few people in the world, who have the spiritual gift of celibacy. The majority don’t and Paul recommended they marry.

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    2. Tez10 months ago

      Um, which god?
      You’re assuming the Christian god is the one and only based on the sacred Christian text. But the same is true about any other god – just read their books. Also the same about all gods: They are the result of human imagination when people could not otherwise explain the world around them.

      Being gay is neither a sin nor a choice and it appears you are suppressing some feelings deep inside…

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      1. srg writer6 months ago

        Tez, I’m not trying to be offensive when I say your logic is limited. Because you have not yet found a relationship with God, does not mean that God does not exist. Also, that old line that people who don’t agree with homosexuality as an acceptable righteous lifestyle, are themselves hiding a repressed feeling, has no founding. Homophobia does exist, but it is not fear of becoming gay, but fear of something they don’t understand. But not all people who believe homosexuality is a sin are homophobic. Many know and love a family member or friend who is gay, but that does not mean they approve of it. There is a difference between asking for tolerance and asking for approval or support.

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  59. Muthyavan.10 months ago

    Where Hinduism stand on same sex marriage is very open. Hinduism is a very old religion based on vedas , which is directing an ancient way of life to many communities , with many different languages and dieties. In the southern Indian community. There is a strong culture of Aiyappan god worshiperrs. Which now fast spreading all over the world. Hindu Veddas tell a story of two male gods Siva(who is half women and half male) and Vishnu(god of spreme birth) in a Purana story gave birth to the God Aiyappan. Mostly male genders ,wearing all black dress make journey to this temple which is located in the hills of Kerala province. Even though gay marriages are not practiced in Hinduism. Gay couples have lived in stories of Puranams and ithihaasams.

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  60. Linda10 months ago

    Why are people against homosexuality until a family member announces they are homosexual? They are not true to themselves or God.

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    1. Cara10 months ago

      I have a daughter who announced to her father and I that she was a homosexual. She is now “married”. I do not believe she is living according to God’s will. Even though she has announced this I am still against same sex marriage. I continue to love my daughter and hope someday she will repent her sin.

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  61. Duane Romberger10 months ago

    You article states “And while all of the major mainline denominations now allow gay clergy….” Assuming you considered the United Methodist church a major mainline denomination, that phrase would be incorrect. According to their own website (and Book of Disciple) “¶ 304.3: The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching. Therefore self-avowed practicing homosexuals are not to be certified as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve in The United Methodist Church.” Please see umc.org/what-we-believe/what-is-… should you want to research the matter further.

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  62. Chris10 months ago

    BTW, Frank Schaefer’s credentials were restored today.

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  63. Sue10 months ago

    Proud to be a member of the United Church of Christ!

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  64. Rachel10 months ago

    American Baptist Churches can neither “prohibit” same-sex marriage nor “allow” gay clergy, since the denomination holds no authority on these matters. Authority resides with the local church – which is held accountable to its association churches. Due to this structural priority placed on theological freedom, there is diversity on both counts among local churches and among Baptist regions.

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    1. srg writer6 months ago

      Which in itself is odd, the authority structure that is. As I assumed that God is our ultimate authority, our ultimate lawmaker, and our ultimate judge. Whatever is going on in the world does not change God’s character.

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  65. David Stutzman10 months ago

    Praise God there are still a few Bible believing churches who will not condone the sin of homosexuality. I’m thankful I was saved in an Independent Baptist church.

    Homosexuality is after all just sin of lust of the flesh:
    Romans 1:32 “Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

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    1. srg writer6 months ago

      As far as I can tell, from what I’ve seen and read, most churches still say marriage is one man and one woman. Certain sources may claim that it is the minority of churches that don’t condone homosexuality, but I’ve found it is the opposite.

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  66. billy wingarten10 months ago

    all tthe anti gays marrying – note the big ones are baptist and catholic – the4 same denominations that see women as second class and dont allow them to be religious leaders.

    Shame on them

    Blah blah blah re churches marrying gay people – keep it up, most of the people in them are old folks and time will heal that wound as the younger generation rejects their animus toward the gay part of Gods creation.

    second we are talking about civil law benefits. For that the bible is non – existant, we live under the constitution. Your church can do as it wants, we dont care as long as you dont go around condemning as many do gays, just like Jews were condemmed by christianity and both ended up in the death camps.

    its so interesting that much of the world that doesnt let gays marry or eve does worse to them include the former commie states, the people whose nut balls gave us 9=11, stalin , ho chi minh, mao etc.

    Conservatives will be known by the company they keep

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  67. Lyn Clarke10 months ago

    I am horrified that the church closest to my own church, still refuses to sanction gay marriage or to even bless same sex unions.
    Jesus Christ came to bring us into the way of love, that to me includes everyone including those who we believe it is impossible to love. It is all too easy to glibly state that we love everyone but it simply isn’t true. To love is to actively love to invite the challenge and to meet it gratefully because we have an opportunity to change, to embrace the ability to change given us by the Holy Spirit. If we don’t it means nothing and we lie.

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    1. Linda10 months ago

      Homosexuality has NOTHING to do with love or God.

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      1. aajayunlimited5 months ago

        I love your stance on this issue; it is scary how people have become. It seems obvious that most aren’t even in the church or they have family/friends that either are gay or sympathize with it. You don’t put the interest of others or yourself before God! It is maddening when people can’t see the large “banner” to the Almighty God Jehovah’s destroying America. If you are Christian please continue.

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    2. srg writer6 months ago

      Lyn, Jesus did love everyone. He showed love to the sinners, ate with them, spoke with them, basically was a friend to them. But nowhere did he approve of their sin. You cannot change God to what you want from Him. Jesus said “Let he without no sin cast the first stone. But then he said go and sin no more.” Do not let the enemy twist God’s word. There were many things stated in the bible that were for a specific time and situation. But if something is said consistantly through different parts of the bible, it is meant for now also.

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    3. holy bible3 months ago

      sounds like you’re more of a Wiccan than a Christian if you truly believe that all love is “good”. or do you believe the love of a child molester is good as well?
      all I’m saying is you can’t pick and choose which sends are acceptable and which aren’t and God says to be forgiving as soon as you have to repent and turn from them not make them acceptable in his house for sure. Can anyone with the Holy Spirit really in them say that this is acceptable in God’s house I think you need to check yourself on who you’re serving.sounds like man and worldly desire. Even if it means changing God’s word to suit your needs for acceptance. Which, is another highly deceitful and, well known tool satan loves to use because humans fall for it 9 times out of 10.

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  68. Julie10 months ago

    United Methodists do NOT welcome LGBT out ministers. In the closet and celibate? Maybe. But there is ample history of discrimination against gays and lesbians wishing to be ordained.

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      Wrng I know several UMc who are openly gay. some of their churches do marriage ceremonies for gays,and last year a thousand of their ministers asked the national body to make it official gays can marry.

      Also its beginning in the disciples of christ, a methodist spinoff.

      the big deal is it is happening in many denominations as more and more people understand that gays are part of gods creation

      And I havent touched upon how 19 states now allow gays to marry under civil law and a dozen more allow it per the courts except that the judges have given the opponents a stay of these laws under our legal system

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      1. Linda10 months ago

        Homosexuals are a part of God’s creation that needs to return to God. Currently their backs are turned. You can’t say you love God and yet use him to further sin. YOU CAN’T SERVE TWO MASTERS!!!

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    2. billy wingarten10 months ago

      I’m willing to bet that the churches where some do and some dont marry gays are aligned with whether they are located in the north and coastal states

      or are in the old confederacy and near those states.

      You will be known by the company you keep

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      1. billy wingarten10 months ago

        And i should add – look at what happened in the great marriage rally where a half million were predicted to attend by NOm etc

        about 2000 showed up Many had signs claiming the need for a mother and a father but none seem to care that 30% of american chidlren are growing up in signle parent families

        and that gays want to support the instituion of marriage being wrecked by the str8s with their 53% divorce rate

        MA has had marriage for gays for 10 years, of course it was considered the cradle of liberty long ago. the sky hasnt fallen, it has the lowest divorce rate in the nation, 36%L

        We are a secular democracy where you can practice your religion freely but not force your beliefs on others.

        that was learned over the period of the dark ages, the holy inquitision and and finally led to a parial reformation

        BTW Pope Francis of “who am I to Judge” great man, wathc all the judgement negative comments here about gays

        And he’s considering civil unions ,a she supported them which he was in argentina.

        for such a conservative church,, thats an enormous step forward

        BTw last monday very cathic luxemburg voted in marrigage 56 to 4. a few mos ago very catholic malta voted in civil unions 37 to o with some abstentions.

        full adoption rights also.

        its not marriage but a great step in the right direction

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        1. aajayunlimited5 months ago

          Is Jesus Christ of Nazareth your Lord and personal Savior? If not, please examine and consider how complex the world is and we are(there is a God–as the universe and its happenings are His handiworks) and how the world is ripe for what the bible says about the last years as we know it. Ex. Gangsters may very well be “arms” for the illuminati–with all the symbology. All these years, they have been allowed to expand. MS-13 is worldwide–and their bodies display devilish tattoos and they flash illuminati symbols. They have been reported to remark, “join us or die”. What about the kkk? Encircled crosses; burning crosses; the color red of its leader; and depopulation of minorities(a large number of people). Now, there is no guarantee that this is the time, but it could be. Strictly an example of the time we live in. If you have not, please make Jesus Christ your Lord and personal Savior.

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        2. Priscillia2 months ago

          Even if divorce rate in the homosexual community is 0% it still does not change the fact that GOD says it is a sin. The word of GOD is the authority.

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      2. David Stutzman10 months ago

        Yes, the company I keep is the Lord, Jesus Christ; I can live with that.

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    3. Linda10 months ago

      The Church is against Satan too, is that discriminatory?

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  69. Jdc10 months ago

    You need to check the statement about the Episcopal Church. Episcopal Priests may perform a same sex marriage in states where it is legal to do and the consent of their bishop. Check their website.

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  70. Neefer10 months ago

    Based on my totally unscientific poll of my children’s friends (11-14), this is going to become a non-issue. The most common response that I received was, “What is the big deal?” The majority of them knew at least one child who has same sex parents, and they speculated that there were probably many more among their acquaintances for whom they had no idea what the kid’s parental situation (married, divorced, same sex, separated, abandoned, widowed, never married, etc.) is.

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      thats very similar to what came out of talking to manypeople. Only about 3 percent would actively oppose same sex marriage, eg serious political organizing against it etc

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      1. TruthSeeker10 months ago

        Why do you think this is so? Could it be that (1) they don’t read the Bible, (2) they did not have parents who had the time or biblical knowledge to provide any guidance to their children or be an example of christian living to their children, or (3) they have never heard a preacher give a sermon for or against anything – just a weekly little 30 minute jump start to help you feel better about yourself and leave you with that “warm and fuzzy good feeling” about yourself and this God-friendly, God-fearing nation we live in (NOT). They know what they have been taught – which is nothing. The old saying “a man who stands for nothing will stand for anything” could also apply to the church. Jesus wanted us to love and serve our brothers and sisters in Christ, but he also told us to repent and turn from sin and live changed lives – lives that do not conform to the world but stand out from the world. If you cannot tell a difference between people of the world and people of the church, there is something seriously wrong with the church. Also, a large congregation is not a sure indicator of a faithful church – as a matter of fact I am very suspect of a church with large numbers of people – given the character of the average christian today, you know there probably has to be some serious worldly entertainment going on for that many to show up.

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        1. aajayunlimited5 months ago

          Your body tells you that it is wrong! God made all of us! Why would God make us like this–if He meant it another way? Didn’t the Almighty God have the ability to make it the other way if he wanted to? You just don’t try to undo what God has done. Stand up against it now. God is not gonna put up with this forever!

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  71. Tim10 months ago

    They left off “in America” after Evangelical Lutheran Church. It’s ELCA, not ELC.

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  72. Richard Harmon10 months ago

    From all I can find David Masci’s statements concerning the position United Church of Christ is at worst absolutely wrong or an outright lie and at best overly simplified! As with most other issues the position of the United Church of Christ on Gay Marriage is to be addressed by the individual congregation! I find this to be far from what he stated! Any person with the title “Senior Researcher” should pick his words with more care – unless his goal was to promote a particular pro gay marriage agenda. While I personally would do nothing to forbid gay marriage I would never write any article which bends the truth.

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  73. Dot10 months ago

    My mother goes to Presbyterian Church I am sure when she hears about this that all her friends will quit going to church!

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      your talking about the most common divide – the younger generation knows gay people and accepts them. The older doesnt because of the vicious self segegations scheme called the closet which is being broken

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  74. Dan10 months ago

    as for me, I do not agree with SSM, but we as a nation have lost many good soldiers fighting for the rights of each of us to choose how we live our lives. So, do what you will, but please do not insist that I must agree.

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      Your entitled to your beliefs. And lets remember that ending the dadt thing it was a travesty to keep soldiers in the closet

      here in MD one of the key people to help get marriage equality passed was a gay soldier who was so suicidal he finally didnt re-inlist after 18 years and lost his pension 2 year short of vesting

      I also met at a dADt rally in DC a retired 2 star general in full uniforM and he told us that we had lost about 50 arabic translators due to DADt. About 300 hundred soldiers were killed in Iraq where later it was found that if we had those translators we would have done things very differently and most would not have died

      Almost all west European nations have allowed gays to serve openly for many years

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      1. R c+christain10 months ago

        Yes and most of Germany agreed with Hitler, since when do numbers set the standard for what is right!

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      2. Linda10 months ago

        Many sins cause people to be suicidal. The answer is to be CLOSER to God, not further away.

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  75. Ed Willneff10 months ago

    As Evelyn Waugh explained to his son — and as told by his son: “The rectum is designed for the evacuation of waste material and not for the insertion of a foreign body.” Yes, boys and girls, sodomy is an unnatural act. Is it any wonder it causes so many diseases? For all of human history and in every society — including Plato’s Greece — what has only become to be called “homosexuality” in the last hundred years or so — has been rightly condemned as unnatural and, therefore, evil. For thousands of years, until the present moment, our Judeo Christian heritage has condemned sodomy as evil and unnatural. That so many self proclaimed Christian congregations now celebrate this unnatural evil act is merely a sign of the narcissistic arrogant pleasure seeking at all cost culture in which we live.

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    1. John10 months ago

      Amen.

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    2. Robert E. Hays10 months ago

      And amen.

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    3. billy wingarten10 months ago

      But sodomy has been twisted in its story – Sand gemmorah was about the rape of strangers in the desert which attempts to kill all, not same sex love

      Even the ultra conservative Koran says ” if your enemy comes to you in the desert you will give him salt (to help prevent dehydration)

      and if you did some serious research you’d find that the inspiration for the geneva convention re prisoners of war was from the need to protect them in a hostile environment

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      1. billy wingarten10 months ago

        the inspiration coming from the true story of s & G

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        1. R c+christain10 months ago

          Have you ever read the story, obviously not. The cities were condemned long before this stranger arrived to pronounce judgement. Let’s not rewrite the Bible.

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    4. Sue10 months ago

      You cannot legislate morality. I don’t care what you do in your bedroom, stay out of mine.

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      1. R c+christain10 months ago

        What do you think the law does, it legislates morality.

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  76. Rev. Kate10 months ago

    While it is technically true that it has only been a couple of decades that some of our Unitarian Universalist minsters have “married” same gender couples, since it has only been possible to have a legally recognized marriage for that long, many of us have performed religious marriages for same gender couples for much longer. My first such wedding was 33 years ago in a small town in Georgia and I know quite a number of Unitarian Universalist colleagues who blessed the spiritual weddings for gblt couples in the 1970’s. So it was a joyful day when Iowa caught up with us nearly three decades later and I could perform my first “legal” marriage of two women. We knew, even four decades ago, that those who used the Bible to condemn homosexuality were catering to the prejudices of their day in the same way that those who used the Bible to celebrate slavery or forbid women the vote did in the 19th century.

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    1. dickkist6 months ago

      Hooray for UU’s. The story is this-and the courts agree. Those religions that don’t believe in gay marriage don’t have to marry gays. Those religions that do believe in gay marriage can marry gays. The contract with the state that all marriages establish can obviously be entered into by gays or non-gays. If you are in a religion that doesn’t believe in gay marriage, don’t marry a gay person. Gay marriage does NOT harm non-gay marriage in any way. Those of you who don’t think gays should marry, please go away while we UU’s (and other denominations) help create wonderful unions between people who love each other.

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  77. edward10 months ago

    Its a sin against God and mankind. Homosexuality is evil a abomination!

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      bye now

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  78. Trillian Orfner10 months ago

    The legal recognition of same-sex marriage will become the law of the land due to Sect. 1 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution which requires equal treatment under the law in all States for all citizens. The SCOTUS has determined that marriage is a civil right. As such SSM is a civil right regarding eligibility to enter into the legal contract of marriage. That said the religious sacrament celebrated by churches can put in place any restrictions they choose thanks to the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. As the country works through the progression of legalizing SSM in all States it in no way has any impact on the policies of any religious organization. No clergy will be forced to officiate any wedding for any couple who are in violation of the teachings and beliefs of their church. However the legal status of the marriage contract with all its rights and responsibilities must be offered equally to all citizens.

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    1. Manny Clay10 months ago

      Trillian, I wish I could share your optimism but at the end of the day churches will lose tax exempt status if they fail to comply. This will separate the true biblical churches from the false. you cannot serve God and mammon. Come out from among them will be the cry made from heaven.

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      1. rocket9 months ago

        The best thing for the church would be to loose the tax exempt status, good oil floats, the sludge will fall to the bottom and as we know the stats of homosexuals in the society is in the low single percentage figures. In the same way when being a part of the true will be then illegal Biblical church, the percentages will be the same. Except for one thing as the old saying goes “One righteous person and God is a majority”.The days are here my friends when righteousness is a sin and for many a crime, the place will now find this a fact is sadly in many of in his name churches.

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  79. Paula Coyle10 months ago

    I’m not trying to defend the ELCA as I believe they are definitely going apostate. But I’m reading the ELCA documents the article links to, and I’m not seeing any sanctioning of same sex marriage or leaving it to individual pastors whether or not to carry out same sex marriage ceremonies. The only place I find reference to a pastor’s discretion is here:

    “Lutherans long have afrmed that the public accountability of marriage, as expressed through a legal contract, provides the necessary social support and social trust for relationships that are intended to be sustained through- out life and within changing and often challenging life situations. In this country, pastors carry both legal and religious responsibilities for marriage. In carrying out these responsibilities, pastors hold and exercise pastoral discretion for the decision to marry in the church. In the community of the church they preside over the mutual promises made between a couple seeking the lifelong, monogamous, and faithful relationship of marriage.”

    This comment is made in the context of already having defined marriage as a man and a woman. They do mention the disagreement about what to call same sex relationships, but in the document linked in the article it does not say that homosexual marriages can be performed by ELCA pastors. The last thing I heard that they did regarding this was allow practicing homosexuals to be ordained.

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    1. Jim10 months ago

      Paula,
      I think it is wise to remember what apostate means. You can only be apostate when you are outside the Christian faith. While I do believe they teach some doctrines that are condemned by the historic church, they still confess the ecumenical creeds; they still have the sacraments; they still preach Christ crucified and risen from the dead.

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    2. Sister Clare6 months ago

      Hi Paula,

      The ELCA has affirmed that its ordained pastors may perform same-sex marriages in states in which that is a legal option. As this article acknowledges, the churchwide ELCA has provided for freedoms (e.g. the ability to call a pastor who is in a committed, monogamous same-sex relationship, the ability of a pastor to celebrate a same-sex marriage or union). However, individual congregations and pastors decide how or whether to respond to these possibilities.

      I hope that is helpful clarification. The ELCA has been careful and intentional in its discernment as a community.

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  80. Chris D10 months ago

    I believe the official position of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) is that congregations that desire to do so can offer liturgies and blessings for “publicly accountable lifelong, monogamous, same-gender relationships.” I believe the church intentionally avoided the use of the word “marriage” for these same gender relationships.

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  81. Bob10 months ago

    Just a comment that while the Presbyterian Church (USA) has approved this, they do not speak for all Presbyterians. Especially for those of us in the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, Presbyterian Church in America and the Orthodox Presbyterian Church

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  82. W10 months ago

    There are a number of Muslim groups in the United States that support same sex marriage rights and various other rights for queer people. You haven’t done your research. Lumping “Buddhism,” “Islam,” and “Hinduism” as one thing demonstrates an inability to grasp with the complexity and nuance of religions that are not Christian or Jewish in the United States.

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    1. W10 months ago

      “Imam Daayiee Abdullah welcomes gay Muslims to worship, marry” – Washington Post, April 17, 2013

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  83. Anne Taylor10 months ago

    Best research news on internet

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  84. Robert Norton10 months ago

    As a Ruling Elder in the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) I am constantly having to make the distinction between the PCUSA and the PCA. Although the author does make a note saying that the Presbyterian Church of America (note: it should be IN not OF) does not allow same sex marriages, he goes on to say, later in the article that, “The Presbyterian, Episcopal and Lutheran churches also have endured similar turmoil over gay marriage and similar issues, …” It would have been much clearer and more effective and considerent to all of the Presbyterian denominations in the U.S. if he would have tried to remain consistent with the distinction.

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  85. Dan10 months ago

    “Conservative Jewish a Movement” cannot be conservative, if they subscribe to homosexuality.

    I for one, left the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, for their embracing of the homosexual agenda. Until about 50 years ago, nobody would hear such nonsense from churches, even suggesting that homosexuality (read that to include GLBT) was normal or should be embraced/supported.

    It was the political agenda of liberalism, which brought the problem. More than just about anything, it has served to split Christianity and leave the conservative wing hardly able to tolerate the revisionist/liberal wing.

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      your entitled to not support the liberal wing. But the age distinction re support and rejeciton of SSM says we are on the right track to accept gays as part of Gods creation and allow them to marry in churches that wish to do so

      BTW the most conservative and opposed churches re gays marrying – their history is the church of the confederacy

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  86. slk10 months ago

    why all this talk about marriage, when more people are living together then married couples!!! and the only people other then gays, who are happy about gay marriage, are the divorce lawyers!!!

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      it would be nice if the anti gays marrying crowd were condemming those who dont marry, live together in sin, divorce, and for many reasons have 30% of American children living in sigle parent families. Instead of condeming in many cases loving couples who are different

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  87. Doc Kennedy10 months ago

    Thank you for the continued work to keep us informed on the many issues we are all facing in these days. We can all vote to accept Gay Marriage but the Bible votes against it. It is really pretty simple. Yet, the complexity comes from the “Cafeteria Faith” that picks and chooses what to believe, even though the statements are very clear. I have been counseling Homosexuals for years and few I talk with really understand the choices and how as well as how they are made. I have many friends who are Gay. Fortunate for me, all of them respect my view as I respect their choice. The most disheartens actions in the whole issue are those who hate…on both sides. I know that if all would leave the matter to those who choose either way of life and not seek to make others, either by law or use of guilt and any means to get their way, all would be happier. Now in some places a person with real tendency to be gay want to choose not to be cannot see therapy or just plain counsel. That is taking it to the level that only makes matters worse. Rather than wanting to be, for instance, an ordained minister in the Methodist Church that has a rule against it, go to a church that is at peace about it. The ‘in your face’ gays are making a great mistake, in my opinion. None of my friends are of that ilk.
    Bless them all for finally this short period here will be over and we will get the final word where there is Absolute Truth. I think many on both sides will surprised.

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    1. katie b10 months ago

      Disagree.

      Many books and articles from biblical scholars explain how the bible does not forbid modern homosexual relationships, but here’s a link with an easy-to-read primer on it from HuffPo: huffingtonpost.com/john-shore/th… Enjoy.

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      1. Brian Foxworth10 months ago

        I didn’t see any biblical basis for their decision on homosexual marriage; however there is a lot of scripture about not staying in our sin. People get confused when they hear that God’s love covers a multitude of sins and they take that to mean that He is okay with us living out our sin. God does loves us all no matter what our sin is; however, He wants all of us turn away from our sin everyday and become more like Him, not embrace our sin and try to make God more like us so that we can live in our sin everyday. When people hear John 3:16 they don’t hear the full message because they take it out of the context it was written in. Here is the full context: “John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.”
        I can hear the next question from those that believe homosexuality is not a sin (evil): “Who are you to say that homosexuality is a sin? Why do you hate homosexuals?” First of all, I don’t hate homosexuals. I have friends and family who are homosexuals; however, I do hate the sin in me and all of us whether it is cheating on your spouse, lying, stealing, murder, homosexuality, etc. Second, I can only say that homosexuality is a sin because the bible says it is a sin in numerous places:
        Leviticus 18:22“‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.”
        Leviticus 20:13“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. ”

        Romans 1:24 “Therfore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

        26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

        28Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”

        1 Corinthians 6:9″Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

        12“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”b 17But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.c

        18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.”

        1 Timothy 1:8″We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.”

        Those are 5 scriptures that say homosexuality is a sin. I haven’t seen any scriptures that say “allow homosexual couples to marry each other because this is holy in God’s sight”, “continually cheat on your spouse with anyone you want as long as they are attractive to you”, “lie to each other and steal whatever you want”, “be sure to do whatever makes you happy” because those scriptures do not exist.

        Any church or denomination that does not preach and practice ONLY the Word of God, is no longer part of God’s church by their very action of accepting the world’s view instead of God’s view.

        Christians we have to make sure we aren’t just stating out opinions, instead we need to state the scriptures.

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    2. billy wingarten10 months ago

      Absolute truth well lets look at western Europe.

      the only nations without relationship recognition under law for gay couples are italy and monaco

      Iceland, norway, sweden, denmark holland, Belgum portugal, spain, France, england, scotland Luxemburg Wales allow gays to marry. The only large nations that dont are Germany Switzerland Ireland, N> Ireland, al of which have CU or RP .

      the further east you go into the former soviet union the fewer you see with marriage, eg zero. though austria, Hungary, slovenia and Chech repub have CUs

      South america is changing – Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Mexico have marriage, Equador has civil unions the situation is confused in columbia but it looks like CUs are in place. Of course canada has full marriage, same re NZ, Australia has a hodge podge of civil unions, we shall see , give them a few years Cus are under dicsussion in chile and the president of peru is supporting the idea of marriage equality

      Asia is just starting to make progress ,eg Vietnam now allows “gay marriage ceremonies (previously forbidden and the fine was about $10 US,) even thought the marriages arent legally recognized. Taiwan will probably be next IMO

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      1. ChicagoIrish10 months ago

        What does that have to do with “Absolute Truth”???

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  88. Ken Howes10 months ago

    One important distinction is that whereas the Presbyterian Church-USA can to some degree claim to represent Presbyterians (they are about 80% of all America’s Presbyterians) and the Episcopal Church can likewise claim to represent Anglicans in America (they are about 85% of America’s Anglicans), the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America cannot claim to represent America’s Lutherans. They are a little over half of America’s Lutherans and sinking fast, while the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, which does not support any of these developments, is larger than any liberal main-line church other than ELCA and the United Methodist Church–they are larger than the Episcopal Church or the Presbyterian Church-USA. Numerous congregations are leaving ELCA, principally into the North American Lutheran Church, the Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ, and the Augsburg Lutheran Churches.

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  89. Rob10 months ago

    “Real” Christians act as their higher selves, that part of everyone that is “of God,” and express love, grace, acceptance in thought, word and deed, not judgement, bile-filled ignorance or anything resembling imperious criticism about others who advocate for more love, less hate. I wish for everyone who doesn’t “get” this, hat they will evolve on this issue, be a trend setter, influence others to more loving-not the contrary.

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    1. T.V.10 months ago

      GOD’s word is very clear on the subject and he is a loving GOD but he does not support the homosexuality sin among other sins. You are either with GOD or against GOD there is no time for straddling the fence.

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      1. billy wingarten10 months ago

        Hes’ not a loving god. Sounds like your church is one of those with a sign “fear god” I thought god was about love

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  90. Ann Tomsho10 months ago

    Inaccurate to say American Baptist churches do not support gay marriage… quite a number do, including my own First Baptist Church Jamaica Plain (MA). Might be better to say Southern Baptist refuse.

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    1. David10 months ago

      I agree with you in practice. I am also at an ABC-USA church that officiates same sex marriages. However, the author is right, because national has written down “that the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.” So – officially ABC-USA opposes same sex marriage. We just happen to not have to do what the denomination says since the power lays with the local church.

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  91. Emmy10 months ago

    A quick correction — the ELCA allows each congregation to determine if their minister may preside over same-sex marriages. The decision rests with the congregation, because the pastor is called and ordained as a pastor to a people. (Obviously, in practice, there can be significant dialogue over who’s making the real decision! But polity-wise, it is the congregation’s choice, not the pastor.)

    – a pastor-in-waiting in the ELCA

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  92. Daniel R. Winder10 months ago

    I am in no way any sort of official spokesman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, but their teachings on the family resonate with me:

    “WE, THE FIRST PRESIDENCY and the Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator’s plan for the eternal destiny of His children.”

    lds.org/topics/family-proclamati…

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    1. mike10 months ago

      Their views on family resonate with you? Really?? How about the rest of their utterly absurd theology? Learn something about it. It’s as crazy as Scientology, maybe crazier. It just outer space lunacy, period.

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      1. Daniel R. Winder10 months ago

        John 18:33 Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?

        John 18:34 Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?

        Pilate’s reaction seems to be an indication that this was an absurd idea. However, sometimes, ideas that may appear absurd to an outsider, are found to be true if we take the time to really consider the claims behind them for ourselves.

        Love your zeal, Mike.

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        1. ChicagoIrish10 months ago

          Daniel R. Winder, Mike’s comments may have been a little over the top, but there can be no denying that the Church of LDS holds many beliefs that are unbiblical, can’t be found in the Scriptures, and are patently extra-biblical. Mormons are very, very good at embracing the Scriptures of the Bible when it suits them, and downplaying the many extra-biblical beliefs they hold. That said, as an evangelical Christian, I greatly admire the family values you speak of that LDS members hold to. They put many Christians to shame.

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      2. Caryatid.4 weeks ago

        There’s no place for your hate-speech here.
        Every religion, when viewed with snarky intolerance, can be criticized for some aspect of its beliefs or practices.

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  93. Rob10 months ago

    They didn’t mention the largest protestant church in the world, Assembly of God, does not support gay marriages.

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  94. Mark10 months ago

    I wish the graphic was more clear. “The Evangelical Lutheran Church” listed is “The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America” – just one of 20-some Lutheran church bodies in the US, and the only one that supports homosexual marriage.

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    1. Jim10 months ago

      Good catch. I’m surprised that the graphic doesn’t represent a high standard of reporting. I usually expect better from Pew. “The Evangelical Lutheran Church” is a phrase that encompasses all Lutherans everywhere while “The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America” or ELCA is a particular subgroup of Lutherans.

      The graphic also shows a very Christian-centric focus. As noted above, Islam in America is not united on the subject. I’d be willing to be that Hinduism and Buddhism are not united either.

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  95. Tim10 months ago

    The PCA is offended that you included the PCUSA but not them.

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  96. Bob10 months ago

    Did you dig up any evidence of any denominations of non-Abrahamic religions that explicitly condemn homosexuality itself? I mean, I’ve come across religious stories that had same-sex relationships that were condemned but not for the same-sex part (such as some Hellenistic stories) and I’ve heard some passages argued to imply that homosexuality was a sin (such as the idea of sexual purity in Buddhism) which ultimately depends on a person’s interpretation of the passage, but I haven’t seen any quotes of leaders of non-Abrahamic religions (who claim that their decrees are a direct message from their deity or dieties) explicitly condemning homosexuality, no matter the circumstances, nor have I found any sort of passage from a holy text from a non-Abrahamic religion that can only be interpreted as homosexuality.

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  97. John10 months ago

    And while all of the major mainline denominations now allow gay clergy and welcome openly LGBT members, none of these churches have fully embraced same-sex marriage.

    Correction – the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod does not allow gay clergy. The LCMS also views believes that the Bible teaches that homosexual behavior is contrary to God’s Word and will, and seeks to minister to those who are struggling with homosexual inclinations.

    Please check the facts when lumping mainline denominations into the same category.

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    1. “Moruti ” Lutz10 months ago

      But would you call them “mainline”? They view themselves as a “confessional” denomination, which ( from my few observations over the years) appears to imply “narrow”. Do you know if they consider themselves as “mainline church” – and if so, what does that mean to them?

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  98. BarbaraCroft10 months ago

    Because of the stance of the ELCA, many congregations have left the ELCA. Their liberal policies and non-adherence to the Scriptures have brought this about. Our congregation in Liberty, TX, after discussion and prayer, voted to leave the ELCA. After severing the ties, we then became a congregation in the North American Lutheran Church. God will not be mocked.

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      by now wonder what history will think of you. TX conservative to the extreme especilly in east tx, next to the most backwards state in the Union, MIss

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  99. Rapturesaint10 months ago

    The recognition of homosexual marriage is something that the church cannot allow and remain faithful to the God of truth. It is not evidence of compassion to allow others to openly violate the clear teaching of the bible. Scripture describes those who practice the violation of the marriage covenant as taking steps that lead to Sheol; they live in accordance with death and damnation.
    If this is the case with those who practice the deeds, what about those who encourage such behavior through false teaching? A greater punishment comes upon the teachers of falsehood.
    The church is “the pillar and support of the truth” (1 Timothy 3:15). and must therefore adhere to and speak the truth concering God’s institution of marriage.
    Marriage is God’s institution. God invented it. God has set its terms, and no one has the right to alter them according to his own whim or preference.
    How does God describe marriage? It is the union between a man and a woman. God is the one who has determined the nature of marriage.

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    1. billy wingarten10 months ago

      no it isnt – were talking really about marriage under civil law.

      Even Pope Francis supported civil unions in Argentina and is considering them for Italy

      for such a conservative church its a giant step forward

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  100. Loren Sanders10 months ago

    “And while all of the major mainline denominations now allow gay clergy and welcome openly LGBT members, none of these churches have fully embraced same-sex marriage.”

    How exactly do you define “major”, “mainline”, or even “denomination”?

    From where I sit, Baptists, Catholics, Mormons, Lutherans and Methodists all are definable under each of those terms, and under any combination of them – and even your own chart shows that they do not “embrace” homosexual marriage.

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  101. Mike10 months ago

    When you continue to throw God’s word under the bus, you can expect judgement from God. The “falling away” continues! Praise the Lord, time is short.

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    1. Bob10 months ago

      The thing is, these people don’t think God acts the same way that you do, so to them, they aren’t “falling away” but you are.

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    2. George Olds10 months ago

      Meh. Too bad America isn’t a theocracy or you might have had a relevant point.

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    3. Quentin10 months ago

      Yes it is! I am thankful for people like you who tell the truth and not believe a lie.

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    4. billy wingarten10 months ago

      I’m quaking in my boots and looking forward next weekend to my wifes gay brother Jewish, getting married in the temple

      the old fear of hell and mythcal life after death is just an insurance policy that if put under law, as it should be , would have the insurance people thrown in the jail – sp far we only know of one person who supposedly came back from the dead

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  102. Dan10 months ago

    Deceiving and being deceived, another prophetic sign we are in the last days. It,s not what “religion” decides to accept or deny same-sex marriage, it,s what God says about sin and the consequences. For the wages of sin is death.

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    1. Bob10 months ago

      So monogamy is a sin then? Since there is no difference between a serious same-sex romantic relationship, and a same-sex couple with a stable civil marriage beyond the fact that marriage is meant to last “until death”.

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    2. George Olds10 months ago

      “sin” is a man-made concept.

      Be that as it may, we let ALL the OTHER ‘sinners’ marry – even convicted child-molesters.

      If the word “sin” even appeared in the Constitution, we might care about your personal religious beliefs.

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    3. billy wingarten10 months ago

      more terrorism – hardly a way to get people to believed, except those who are brainwashed from birth before they have enough life experiences to say something nasty related to bulls

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  103. Servant of God10 months ago

    The Bible is our authority. If the speakers for these churches contradict the Bible, it is obvious that these churches do not intend to honor God or His Word. The Lord knows who are His sheep. Followers already knew this was coming and should have left these ungodly churches long ago. These churches will not obey God. We are responsible for listening to GOD – and NOT man.

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    1. Bobby10 months ago

      Since the bible was written by men it’s a little disintegrous to claim it is God’s word. Furthermore most of the clobber verses have been twisted over the centuries to suit man’s political goals. i.e. King James was gay, the church could not come out and directly oppose the king, so in writing The King James version of the bible they twisted verses as a way to criticize the king. Why is it people claim that Sodom was destroyed for homosexuality; yet other parts of the bible refer to Sodom’s sin as pride and inhospitality?

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      1. Keith10 months ago

        It wasn’t the Church that commissioned the translation of the English Bible (King James), it was King James himself who authorized it (hence it’s known as the Authorized Version). A simple study of the Hebrew and Greek will prove that their translations were 100% true and accurate. Also, please note that these same translations were also in the 1599 Geneva Bible and the earlier English Bibles as well as (most) subsequent English BIbles. It really didn’t take a turn downhill until the NIV came about. They softened their stance because a.) They used the Alexandrian Scripts and b.) there was a confessed Lesbian on the translating committee. So the NIV was poisoned from the beginning.

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      2. Bryce10 months ago

        If you read the Genesis account, the men of Sodom clearly want to forcibly sleep with the men (angels of God) that stayed with Lot. This is in a culture where you slaughter the fattened calf and throw a feast for complete strangers when they ask to stay with you. Instead, the men of Sodom want to rape these men, even over two virgin girls. Clearly, Sodom’s sins were homosexuality, inhospitality, and pride. Homosexuality, for obvious reasons. Inhospitality, for obvious reasons. And pride, because they thought that they were above the culture and treated it with contempt.

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      3. Dan10 months ago

        Bobby, your comments are simply not accurate. You present a fallacy when you say “since the bible was written by men…”

        Now if you don’t think God is capable of doing what He says, then I suppose I can’t go much further with you. However what does the Scripture say? “All Scripture is God-breathed…” what does this mean? It means that the Bible, our Scripture, is a collection of writings completely different than any other canon or book in the world! What other scripture is God-breathed? What other book can truly claim that? Now of course if you respond “that was written by a man too”, well then you are stuck in your disbelief and no further discussion is profitable.

        However if your faith demands or at least says to you “with God all things are possible”, then is it possible that what Scripture says IS true? And if it is truly possible, why not give God the benefit of the doubt rather than relying on your own reason and your own understanding. Afterall, what does the ancient Proverb say? “Trust in the Lord and lean not on your own understanding.”

        To doubt Scripture is to make an idol of your own mind – and that was truly the sin of Eve when she ate thinking she knew better than God.

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      4. slk10 months ago

        you have your beliefs, and they have there’s!!! if you don’t think they’re telling the truth, show the facts!!! anyone can say, “you’re wrong”!!!

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      5. His son10 months ago

        Finally! Someone who has actually read their Holy Bible and not just TOLD what to believe.
        All of this holds such enthusiastic debate. Curious. The number of homeless on the streets, increasing rates of impoverished, child abuse and neglect, bitterness and increasing lack of kindness towards each other…THIS is the ‘turning away’. We were not placed here to judge each other but to love God and show that love toward each other. The number of gay people turned away from Christian churches is staggering. The blood is on their hands , not God’s.

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    2. Bob10 months ago

      They think so too, and they think you are the ones messing up the Bible.

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    3. George Olds10 months ago

      The bible might be YOUR “authority” Bobby, but America’s is the Constitution.

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      1. billy wingarten10 months ago

        cheers and good night to all. If you dont like SSM dont have one.

        an example of what the nation thinks was shown on thursday in Dc where the predicted half a million to NOM was about 2000.

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    4. John Kahler10 months ago

      In the case of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, extensive study of the bible and the confessions of the church was carried out and debated before the denomination’s churchwide assembly passed the changes in church rules which allowed clergy in same sex committed relationships to be ordained and rostered, and opened the possibility for same sex marriage. A slight correction to the footnote, the decision on whether to marry a same sex couple in an ELCA church is the decision of both the pastor and the congregation council. And the ultimate decision to marry any couple is up to the pastor, no matter if they are same sex of opposite sex, even if the state has issued a marriage license.

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  104. Chris10 months ago

    The Orthodox Churches (Greek, Russian, Serbian, et al.) do not approve of same sex marriage either. Why are they left out of this discussion? They’re only the second largest group of Christians on the planet.

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    1. RP10 months ago

      The reason is that the mainstream media HAS to make an effort to ensure it looks tilted to favor the liberal side in anything. In this case, though most people can name 10 or more other large church organizations that would land in the “prohibits” column, adding them would show that this column is actually larger than all of the others. So instead they add “just enough” to make it look like some are opposed, but show “more than enough” on the other side to make it seem like everyone is on the liberal agenda side. You can make any poll say anything you want by selecting what elements and words to use. That’s one of the first things they taught us in college.

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      1. slk10 months ago

        bingo!!!

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    2. David Masci10 months ago

      Chris — Good point, although Orthodox Christians make up only roughly one percent of the American population. Still, we’ll likely be updating our larger fact sheet on same-sex marriage and religious traditions and I will push to include Orthodox Churches in the new version. Thanks again for pointing this out. David

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    3. George Olds10 months ago

      A much better question is: Why are religions inserting discussions about the religious ritual of matrimony when the topic under actual discussion is the civil institution known as civil marriage?

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      1. billy wingarten10 months ago

        Every thing from control control control to mytheology

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    4. Cyn10 months ago

      As an Orthodox Christian, I find there is a common misconception that we’re part of the “Catholic” religion (ie Roman Catholic)–we’re not. We are actually older than the Roman Catholics.

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  105. VB10 months ago

    It seems more natural to have multiple “spouses” of the opposite sex. The logical question is why is that prohibited? It seems anything goes now and the standard is…..none. For all the politically correct talk, those churches who sanction what Scripture denies, are the ones losing members. They make their choices. Those who exhibit courage and disagree are called “haters” or ignorant. Those who roll over in fear are somehow the enlightened ones. Pander all you’d like. It won’t fill the collection plates.

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    1. George Olds10 months ago

      That would only “seem more natural” if one were heterosexual, and we ain’t all that.

      And, the topic is not a religious one. Civil marriage is a secular, civil institution. Heck, we let ATHEISTS marry, no ‘God-talk’ required.

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  106. Gary B10 months ago

    Real Christians reject homosexuality and homosexual marriage. Rejection of homosexuality does not automatically indicate one is a Christian, but acceptance of them does mean one is not a real Christian.

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    1. Bobby10 months ago

      There are numerous Christian denominations (most estimates being around 42,000). They have different views on numerous subjects. Who are you to decide which ones are real Christians and which are not? Your statement is known as pride and that is considered a sin.

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    2. Bob10 months ago

      Christianity (noun)- “the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices.”

      There is yet any evidence to suggest Jesus himself said anything about homosexuality. On the other hand, he said a whole lot about “loving thy neighbor” and other “undesirables”, living the golden rule, and serving others and being kind. He did not stand down from people in religious or political power and often challenged them, and he tried to convert others through examples, not threats.

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      1. ChicagoIrish10 months ago

        Bob – Jesus and His words are more than just the words in red in a Bible. He is the ENTIRE Bible: John 1:1–“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.” If it’s in the Bible, it’s of Christ–and there’s plenty in the Bible that condemns homosexuality.

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  107. Inis Magrath10 months ago

    I sincerely respect that any article of reasonably brief length cannot address the nuances of religious positions on same-sex marriage.

    That said, the article states that, “many of the largest religious institutions have remained firmly against allowing same-sex marriage, including the Roman Catholic Church, the Orthodox Jewish movement.”

    Speaking as a Jew, I do not believe that the Orthodox Jewish movement constitutes one of the “largest religious institutions” in America. According to the Pew Center’s own research data, less than 10% of all American Jews affiliate with the Orthodox movement. As Jews comprise roughly 3% of Americans, that means that Orthodox Jews are 0.3 percent of Americans — is that seriously among the “largest religious institutions?”

    The Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist and unaffiliated Jewish populations make up the remaining more-than 90% of all American Jews. All of those faith traditions in Judaism embrace and support same-sex marriage and Pew’s own data reveal that roughly 85% of ALL American Jews support same-sex marriage.

    To the extent that Judaism as a whole (not just the Orthodox) is considered one of the “largest religious institutions” in America, Judaism is overwhelmingly supportive of same-sex marriage.

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    1. David Masci10 months ago

      Inis: Thanks for your comment. You’re correct about Orthodox Jews, although they are the fastest growing of the Jewish movements in the US. Regarding the sentence you reference: We wanted to list some of the traditions that oppose same-sex marriage and to include a variety of different ones in the mix. The reason that we said “largest” is because we included the Catholics and Southern Baptists and we wanted to let people know that they are, respectively, the first and second largest denominations in the US. Essentially it was a trade off. But, of course, you’re right about the Orthodox and thanks for pointing that out. David

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  108. George Olds10 months ago

    What a pitifully out-dated list of pro-equality faiths.
    The following denominations will marry same gender couples in 19 US States and the District of Columbia:

    Affirming Pentecostal Church International
    Alliance of Christian Churches
    Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries
    The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists
    Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
    Community of Christ
    Conservative Judaism
    Ecumenical Catholic Church
    Ecumenical Catholic Communion
    The Episcopal Church
    Evangelical Anglican Church In America
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
    Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals
    Inclusive Orthodox Church
    Metropolitan Community Church
    Old Catholic Church
    Progressive Christian Alliance
    Reconciling Pentecostals International
    Reconstructionist Judaism
    Reform Judaism
    Reformed Anglican Catholic Church
    Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
    Unitarian Universalist Church
    United Church of Christ

    Please keep up. Thanks in advance.

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  109. Larry W. Jones10 months ago

    Who cares? Nobody cares about religious marriage except religionists–and there are plenty of religions around who are very happy to marry same-sex couples as long as they have a state-issued marriage license; they will even bless your relationship without a marriage license. The battle here is for equal rights under the U.S. Constitution to civil marriage. Religionists always think every issue is about them; this is not.

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    1. George Olds10 months ago

      Well said, except for one minor part …

      Re: “they will even bless your relationship without a marriage license”

      In the State of Michigan, a clergyperson can be fined if s/he performs a marriage ceremony for any couple who do not present a valid (State-issued) marriage license.

      But of course, you’re correct – this is NOT a religious discussion. It’s about the secular, civil institution called civil marriage, NOT ‘holy matrimony’. I wish more “religionists” understood this fact. (Heck, I wish more would KNOW this fact.)

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      1. John Kahler10 months ago

        Trouble is, as one of my clergy friends notes, clergy act as agents of the state in marriage, which makes it a joint state/religious discussion. In other countries, such as Germany, there is civil marriage and there is church marriage, and they are separate.

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      2. billy wingarten10 months ago

        thank you I had a list like that and lost it

        the god botherers are probably going to have a fit. Of course its people like them that made me trash the bible long ago, get kicked out of religious school and never looked back

        the utter problem of religion is really that people cant accept the fact that we are products of a billion years of evolution., of course which most conservative xtians deny and to buttress their claims say that the earth is only 6000 years old.

        Makes me wonder how manking would have suvived the dinosaurs, or were those critters the dogs of the past

        then we should ask why very intelligent distant cousins, just because they cant speak,e g gorillas etc ,our fourfooted friends eg dogs – whys houldnt they go to an after life- because they dont say yes sir to the church – rediculous

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        1. GerryG4 weeks ago

          Evolution is a dangerous fairy tale

          Not supported by science,,,If Darwin’s theory were subjected
          the same requirements as today,,,it would never seen
          the light of day.

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  110. Paul Elhard10 months ago

    The “turmoil” experienced in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America since 2009 came about after more culturally traditionalist conservative members refused to accept the decision made by congregationally elected representatives to the national assembly after years of study and prayer. We say we believe the Holy Spirit guides decision-making at these assemblies, even if the vote is close. Nevertheless, the fact is that many conservatives refused to even participate in the discernment process in the first place. Then they refused to accept the outcome, or work to change things from within. They actually complained that they did not have input, and ended up tearing some congregations apart with their bitter recriminations. Thus splinter groups were formed claiming to be more congregationally based. However, the ELCA is a big tent, inclusive and diverse church. And as this Pew Report indicates, the ELCA itself gives complete power to individual congregations to make their own choices on these issues. Reactionary resistance to change impedes God’s mission in a changing world. Those who trouble God’s house, and divide the Body of Christ shall inherit the wind.

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    1. Kristine10 months ago

      When the presiding bishop, Bishop Chilstrom, wrote in The Lutheran that those who disagreed with gay marriage should leave the church, and “don’t let the door hit you on the way out”, he made it very clear that the leadership of the ELCA was not inclusive, and the decision to let people follow their consciences was entirely hollow.

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    2. ZZ10 months ago

      ELCA is “Lutheran” in name only. Luther upheld the Word as inerrant and inspired by God. The ELCA tramples and manipulates the Word to fit the “changing world.”

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      1. “Moruti “+Lutz10 months ago

        “inerrant ” is an invention of modernity (19th century)., looooong after Luther!

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    3. Flickandswish10 months ago

      “Nevertheless, the fact is that many conservatives refused to even participate in the discernment process in the first place.”

      My guess is that they hold to the idea that you cannot vote on deciding what is or isn’t sin.

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  111. Peter10 months ago

    Also, re-reading the article, it seems the United Church of Christ is considered a “religious group” instead of a mainline Protestant denomination. That designation would probably surprise a lot of UCC members!

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  112. Peter10 months ago

    This is very interesting and i appreciate it in concept, but I think there are two flaws. One, it mixes up “religions” with religious organizations. I think it should be limited to specific religious organizations and should not include general belief systems like “Buddhism,” “Hinduism” and “Islam.” Contact specific organizations within those religions to get their positions on this issue, as Jeff Wilson suggested below.

    With Quakers, this is mistaken as well. There are three national organizations representing Quakerism in the U.S., along with many independent meetings and state-level “Conservative” affiliations that are not connected to a national group. Of the three national organizations, Friends General Conference does support same-sex marriage, but I am not sure about Friends United and I am quite sure the Evangelical Friends Association prohibits it.

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    1. Greg Woods4 weeks ago

      You are right!

      I would clarify something. These decisions are largely made by yearly meetings (regional bodies), not by national bodies. For the most part, Quakers associated with Friends General Conference do support same-sex marriage.

      Right now several regional bodies within Friends United Meeting and at least one with Evangelical Friends Church International are struggling with this issue.

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  113. Jeff Wilson10 months ago

    Thank you for this research. “Buddhism” here is listed as a single religion, rather than a collection of traditions like Christianity. To help a bit with this matter, please see my research on same-sex marriage in the Buddhist Churches of America: globalbuddhism.org/13/wilson12.pdf

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    1. Bobby10 months ago

      Thank-you for your link. A very interesting read if a bit long, but then the subject needs explanations like your research.

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