March 7, 2014

Live blog: Generations in the Next America

Thanks to everyone who joined us on the live-blog of the Next America event at the Newseum. We now have an archived video of it, including the two panels.

UPDATE, 1:18 p.m. An audience member asked how Millennials’ support for a more active government (53% say they favor a bigger government that provides more services, versus 38% who’d rather have a smaller government that provides fewer services) squares with their distrust of government and reluctance to affiliate with organized politics.

Pew Research’s Doherty responded that such seemingly contradictory views aren’t all that unusual, among Millennials or other population groups. Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress, added that disinterest in affiliating with a political party is different from how you vote or how you feel about issues. She said it also reflects the long-running decline in parties’ institutional power and the role of non-party funders, consultants and other political infrastructure.

UPDATE, 1:07 p.m. Older people think of themselves as, for example, feminists or environmentalists because those identities were forged decades ago in fierce social struggles, GOP pollster Bill McInturff said. But Millennials, who came of age much later, eschew those labels even if they embrace the policy positions: “‘We wouldn’t fight about that.’ They just presume it to be true.”

McInturff added that, given the strong generational skew on social issues, the same-sex marriage debate “is essentially over,” even if the political system will continue fighting over it for a few more years. That may be true of marijuana legalization too, he said, though the state-level experiments are at an earlier stage.

UPDATE, 12:58 p.m. The new Millennials report from Pew Research shows strong support across generations for maintaining Social Security benefits at current levels (even though half of Millennials and Gen-Xers say they don’t expect to receive any Social Security benefits when they retire). Debra Whitman of AARP says her group’s research has found that younger generations (Boomers and Gen-Xers) support Social Security because, with the erosion of defined-benefit pensions and 401(k)s whipsawed by the stock market, they’re counting on it more.

When it comes to student-loan debt relief, Aaron Smith of Young Invincibles expressed frustration that senators and representatives from older generations don’t understand how serious the problem is. “I’ve had people tell me, ‘I don’t understand why you can’t work over the summer to pay for college,'” Smith said. “They’re just not in touch with reality.”

UPDATE, 12:44 p.m. Despite their progressive tilt, Millennials may be up for grabs politically, said Aaron Smith, co-founder and executive director of Young Invincibles. “Neither political party has really articulated an economic vision that will address the challenges faced by young adults,” Smith said. “The solutions we’re seeing are sort of recycled solutions from the past.”

UPDATE, 12:35 p.m. Half of Millennials call themselves independent, versus 27% Democrats and 17% Republicans. “That’s a number you don’t often see,” said Carroll Doherty, director of political research at the Pew Research Center. But when you include those who “lean” toward one party or another, half identify with the Democratic Party versus 34% for the Republican Party.

Like other generations, Millennials express disappointment with the Obama administration. In 2009 they were the generation most likely to approve of Obama (70%), but their approval has now fallen to 49% — still higher than the Gen X, Boomer and Silent generations.

Millennials are at the leading edge of a number of social issues, Doherty said, from same-sex marriage (68% of Millennials support it) to marijuana legalization (69% of Millennials in favor) to immigration policy (Millennials are the only generation in which a majority, 55%, says unauthorized immigrants not only should be allowed to stay in the U.S. but also apply for citizenship.

UPDATE, 11:50 a.m. Breaking for lunch now — back in a half-hour or so with a panel on generations, politics and policy.

UPDATE, 11:40 a.m. How do you square the alleged risk-aversion of Millennials with the fact that their rate of unmarried motherhood is so high (47% in 2012, versus 21% of older women who gave birth last year)? Wilcox tied it to the idea that for many Millennials marriage is a capstone experience, while having kids is something that’s time-limited. (Later, Howe commented that “Fertility deferred is fertility denied.”) Huntsman added that said having kids seems a more meaningful experience to many Millennials than marriage.

UPDATE, 11:24 a.m. How to get Millennials engaged in the political process? Howe said “It’s going to take crisis to galvanize young people” politically. Huntsman said Millennials will get involved when politicians talk about issues that affect them directly, and/or when they find a candidate they genuinely like. Howe responded, “The last time we had a candidate people liked  was the 1950s.”

UPDATE, 11:17 a.m. Huntsman, responding to Singletary, said she grew up in the LDS Church but now identifies more as spiritual rather than as a Mormon — an example, she said, of her generation’s reluctance to be labeled. Menendez picked up on that point, noting that Millennials often agree with policy positions but reject labels or identities associated with those positions: “Do you care about the planet? Yes. Do you want clean air and clean water for your kids ? Yes. Are you an environmentalist? No.”

UPDATE, 11:09 a.m. Alan Cooperman, director of the Pew Research Center’s Religion Project, said that Millennials are disaffiliating from religion. 32% of that generation are unaffiliated with a particular religion, versus 20% of the general population. And Millennials are less likely than older generations to describe themselves as spiritual rather than religious. “They’re less religious in just about any way you can think of.”

UPDATE, 10:59 a.m. Washington Post personal-finance columnist Michelle Singletary said it’s not wrong for Millennials to live at home after college if they need to the save money and pay down debt. Nor was it a mistake for them to go to college, even if they’re underemployed and carrying a heavy student-debt load now. “Going to college isn’t wrong. Going to college at any cost? That’s wrong.” Menendez added that that student-debt burden — with little relief from either the government or the private sector — is holding back Millennials from getting fully launched into their adult lives.

UPDATE:, 10:52 a.m. Abby Huntsman, co-host of “The Cycle” on MSNBC: “I’m very concerned for the future of the Republican Party. If you look at where the Republican Party stands on any number of issues, the Millennial generation is on the opposite side of that.”

Economist, historian and demographer Neil Howe said Millennials are in many ways a very risk-averse generation, and that risk aversion shows up everywhere from their distrust of social institutions to their reluctance to get married and buy homes. Brad Wilcox of the American Enterprise Institute said Millennials typically view marriage as the capstone, rather than the foundation stone, of their adult lives. Huntsman said one of her sisters lived at home for five years after graduating from college.

UPDATE, 10:42 a.m. Alicia Menendez, host of “Alicia Menendez Tonight” on Fusion TV, on the racial and ethnic diversity of her generation: “We don’t really think about it. It’s just the world we grew up in.”

UPDATE, 10:37 a.m. Younger adults today have less wealth than younger adults 20 years ago did; older adults today have more wealth than older adults did two decades. Younger adults also are significantly more likely to vote Democratic and more comfortable with social changes such as same-sex marriage and the prospect of legalizing unlawful immigrants.

Despite financial challenges and differing political and social views, the generations aren’t fated to battle each other. Why? “It’s hard to wage a generational war when you’re living under the same roof,” Taylor said. More than a fifth (22%) of households currently have more than two adult generations living in them, a level not seen since the end of World War II. And overall, only 29% of people say there are “strong” or “very strong” conflicts between the young and old, far fewer than say that about blacks and whites, rich and poor, immigrants and natives – or especially Democrats and Republicans (a whopping 81%).

UPDATE, 10:27 a.m. The Millennial generation stands out as the first generation in U.S. history to enter adulthood in worse economic shape than their parents. Their unemployment rate is higher (8.2%, versus 5.8% for Gen Xers at the same age range) and they have higher student debt.

UPDATE, 10:20 a.m. Another driver of diversity: intermarriage. Back in 1960, when intermarriage was illegal in some states and taboo elsewhere, only 2.4% of marriages were between people of different races or ethnicities. Today, nearly one in six (15.5%) marriages are. More than a quarter of Asians and Hispanics marry people of different races or ethnicities, as do one-in-six African Americans and one-in-10 whites.

Attitudes toward all that intermarriage vary markedly among generations. Fully half of Millennials say it’s a good thing for society, compared with 38% of Gen-Xers, a third of Boomers and only 19% of Silents.

UPDATE, 10:12 a.m. The biggest driver of the nation’s growing racial and ethnic diversity, according to Taylor: an immigration wave that’s nearly five decades old and still going strong.

In 1960, about a fifth of the U.S. population were first- or second-generation immigrants. If present trends continue, by 2050 about 37% of the population will be first- or second-generation immigrants – an even higher share than during the vast influx of immigrants from southern and eastern Europe in the late 1800s/early 1900s.

Chart of immigrant percentage of U.S. populationToday, fully half of immigrants are from Latin America, and more than a quarter (27%) are from Asia; Europeans make up just 12% of the current immigrant population. At the turn of the 20th century, 88% of all U.S. immigrants were from Europe.

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Today, the Pew Research Center is taking its show on the road — or at least down the road, to the Newseum in Washington, D.C. We’re hosting a one-day symposium on how the nation’s rapidly shifting generational makeup and racial/ethnic demographics are affecting American families, society, politics and policy. (Our event begins at 10 a.m. ET.)

In his new book, The Next America, Pew Research executive vice president of special projects Paul Taylor identifies two key trends that are already reshaping the United States and will continue doing so for decades to come. The first: far greater racial and ethnic diversity, driven largely by immigration. In 1960, the U.S. population was 85% white, 10% black and 4% Hispanic. By 2060 whites will be a minority (43%), while 31% of the population will be Hispanic, 13% black, 8% Asian and 6% other races or ethnicities. As Taylor puts it, “We were once a black and white country; now we’re a rainbow.”

Chart of the changing U.S. racial/ethnic makeup

But there’s also going to be a lot more gray in that rainbow. Not only are some 10,000 Baby Boomers turning 65 every day (and will continue doing so till 203o), but Americans are living longer and having fewer children than ever. Result: The nation’s “age pyramid” is turning into more of a rectangle. That poses challenges for, among other things, Social Security. In 1960, near the peak of the Baby Boom, there were 5.1 workers for every Social Security-eligible retiree. By the time the last Boomer retires, that ratio will be down to 2 workers per retiree.

Racial makeup of population by generationWhose job will it be to square that circle? Mainly the 80 million or so members of the Millennial generation, now anywhere from their teens to early 30s. That generation — currently the largest segment of the U.S. population — embodies the nation’s growing diversity: 43% of Millennials are non-white, the highest share of any generation. And while they’re much less trusting than their elders (only 19% say most people can be trusted, about half the level of Boomers), they’re also more optimistic about the future: 55% say that America’s best days are ahead of it, compared with 48% of Boomers.

Topics: Demographics, Generations and Age, Millennials

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  1. Warren Conklin8 months ago

    The Pew study is a real eye opener about what the future will bring. If Republicans (and the Republican party) don’t get on the ball, all will be lost as a party.
    This study not only shows that Millennials (18-33 year olds) favor the Democrats more than the Republicans, it deals with the question of race. Whites tend to mimic their elders more than non-whites. The huge divide appears to be on the basis of skin color, not so much age or education. The good news is that the Millennials appear to be more optimistic about the future than their elders. That’s not withstanding that they have much more student debt if they’re among the third that get a college education.
    If Republicans are smart (hahaha) they’ll give up on spending a lot on recruiting blacks and Indians, and concentrate on a message aimed at Asians and Hispanics that will resonate. Somehow the Republicans need to convince Millennials that liberty and economic independence is more important that looking to big government to provide them benefits.
    One thing the research shows is that only 6% of Millennials believe that Social Security will provide them full benefits when they get to that point. The rest believe that either there will be reduced benefits or no benefits at all. Maybe that’s where the Republicans should start. SS is a great Ponzi scheme, and I believe the Millennials are right. The system as created (and modified) cannot go on.

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    1. slk7 months ago

      thank you lbj(liberal) for taking social security money, and placing it in the “general fund” so it can be spent otherwise then why it was collected!!! and shame on any other administation for not returning it!!! republicans (hahaha)??? only a true liberal/socialist/communist would “think(smell the wood burning)”, that they’ve no hand in this mess!!! time to wake up, professor isn’t always right!!! i really feel for those millenials, who’ve been misguided, because when reality calls, it stuns!!! “eventually, you run out of other peoples money”!!! margaret thatcher!!!

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  2. James Morgan8 months ago

    Well, forgiving educational debt would go a long way towards helping the economy long run. Then people in new generations would be able to actually work on our economies rather than having to cast their glances on what they have to pull behind them (debt}.
    It seems to be all in the control of the ‘banks’ and their servitors who want to extract the last pint of blood money from those who will eventually keep it all going.

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    1. slk7 months ago

      it “seems”!!! who bailed them out??? are you sure it’s not bush’s fault, or fox’s??? you “seem” to forget, that to attend a $50,000 a plate dinner, with potus, you need to be one of the “hated rich”!!! and don’t say koch either, because pew can back me up, when i say that since ’89, there are 58 organizations, who’ve donated more, with most going left, with actblue donating over “five” times what the koch’s do!!!there’s a reason i’ve been an in dependent, since ’69, because most politicians with pockets can’t be trusted!!! educated and uniformed, is a discredit to your brain!!! do yourself a favor, and flip channels when listening to political banter!!! do your own homework!!!

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    2. slk7 months ago

      do the math, a race that averages less then 2 children per couple, will eventually be out populated by ones that average more the 4(blacks, hispanics and muslims)!!! don’t believe everything you hear, do your own research!!!

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  3. E. H. Denton8 months ago

    Your article puts great emphasis on the fact that the share of the White population will become a minority share around 2050. To be accurate, this is the “White non-Hispanic” share of the population. As almost half of the Hispanic population self-identified as White at the last Census, in 2050 your projections suggest that the share of the “White” population will be around 60% – hardly a minority.

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  4. Brian Kelly B Bizzle8 months ago

    In the prohibitionist’s world, anybody who consumes the slightest amount of marijuana responsibly in the privacy of their own homes are “stoners” and “dopers” that need to be incarcerated to protect society.

    In their world, any marijuana use equates to marijuana abuse, and it is their God given duty to worry about “saving us all” from the evils of marijuana use.

    Who are they to tell us we can’t choose marijuana, the safer choice instead alcohol for relaxation, after a long, hard day, in the privacy of our own homes?

    People who use marijuana are smart, honest, hard working, educated, and successful people too, who “follow the law” also.(except for their marijuana consumption under it’s current prohibition of course) .

    Not the stereotypical live at home losers prohibitionists make us out to be. We are doctors, lawyers, professors, movie stars, and politicians too.

    Several Presidents of The United States themselves and Justin Trudeau, and Bill Gates, and Carl Sagan have all confessed to their marijuana use , as have a long and extensive list of successful people throughout history at one point or other in their lives.

    Although, that doesn’t mean a damned thing to people who will make comments like “dopers” and “stoners” about anybody who uses the slightest amount of Marijuana although it is way safer than alcohol.

    To these people any use equals abuse, and that is really ignorant and full of hypocrisy. While our society promotes, glorifies, and advertises alcohol consumption like it’s an All American pastime.

    There is nothing worse about relaxing with a little marijuana after a long, hard day, than having a drink or two of alcohol.

    So come off those high horses of yours. Who are you to dictate to the rest of society that we can’t enjoy Marijuana, the safer choice over alcohol, in the privacy of our own homes?

    We’ve worked real hard our whole lives to provide for our loved ones. We don’t appreciate prohibitionists trying to impose their will and morals upon us all.

    Has a marijuana user ever tried to force you to use it? Probably not. So nobody has the right to force us not to either.

    Don’t try to impose your morality and “clean living” upon all of us with Draconian Marijuana Laws, and we won’t think you’re such prohibitionist hypocrites.

    Legalize Nationwide! Support Each and Every Marijuana Legalization Initiative!

    There is absolutely no doubt now that the majority of Americans want to completely legalize marijuana nationwide. Our numbers grow on a daily basis.

    The prohibitionist view on marijuana is the viewpoint of a minority of Americans.. It is based upon decades of lies and propaganda.

    Each and every tired old lie they have propagated has been thoroughly proven false by both science and society.

    Their tired old rhetoric no longer holds any validity. The majority of Americans have seen through the sham of marijuana prohibition in this day and age. The number of prohibitionists left shrinks on a daily basis.

    With their credibility shattered, and their not so hidden agendas visible to a much wiser public, what’s left for a marijuana prohibitionist to do?

    Maybe, just come to terms with the fact that Marijuana Legalization Nationwide is an inevitable reality that’s approaching much sooner than prohibitionists think, and there is nothing they can do to stop it!

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  5. James Parkhurst8 months ago

    I just stumbled across this as it was starting, and am not able to watch the entire conversation. It is very helpful information. Will a video of this be available online?

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    1. Drew DeSilver8 months ago

      Thanks, James. The video will be archived, and we’ll replace the live link with a link to the archived video sometime after the event is over.

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  6. Stephan Belding8 months ago

    We need to begin to see the Millennials for who they truly are as a generation, this century’s greatest generation. They are a highly collaborative group that will look to compromise and work out society’s problems together and not act in the selfish ways that are so indicative of the Baby Boomers currently in power.

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    1. Patrick Venton8 months ago

      You are right on the money with the selfishness of the Boomers. The Millennials are in a quandary over what they see, the almost institutional behaviour of the older generations. I am 67, and my two children are 25 and 29. They are very intelligent and have appetites for the good life. Unfortunatly they have blocked out ever having a house of their own to live in. Their earnings will not allow for that . Especially in the area of the country we live in. The north west coast. I appreciate your comment.

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      1. Stephan Belding8 months ago

        Thanks, Patrick. As you, I am also a Boomer. If only those of our generation who are in leadership positions could see the potential the Millennials have to accomplish great things now, the better our world would be. What I urge Boomer leaders to do now is to not step away, but to step aside and bring young leaders into the fold, acting as mentors, guides, and partners in helping them transform our world.

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  7. Allan8 months ago

    I can’t wait for the legacy of this country, provided by the government within the last 30 years, who have let the flood of immigrants come into this country, come home to roost. America will be changed for good by then, and it won’t be for the better. I’ll be happy to be dead by then.

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    1. Glenn Leach8 months ago

      “America” has already changed, drastically, many times. First when the British, French and Spanish established colonies here, displacing the native Americans. Western Europeans, dominated immigration for a period. Then came waves of Irish, Italian and other immigrants. That wave reached its peak in the latter 1800s (when the US, solicited immigrants in order to grow) and early 1900’s escaping war torn Europe. “America” changed with emancipation and ensuing legislation giving blacks, predominantly Africans, status as Americans. There was a relatively smaller wave of Asian (predominantly Chinese and Japanese) immigrants on the west coast. All faced persecution initially, all changed what was then “America” and compose what is now America. Immigration now is more diverse and has a very high (but not exclusively) Latino composition. I am glad I am living through these exciting times. Change is a characteristic of the living; the dead decompose.

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      1. slk7 months ago

        you forget one important fact!!! many don’t want to speak or assimilate!!! thats why students at some high schools, “aren’t” allowed to wear anything showing American patriotism, on cinco de mayo!!! how would you like to change to sharia law??? i don’t expect a response!!!

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  8. Dave Nicholas8 months ago

    Whose job will it be to square that circle?

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