January 26, 2017

5 facts about abortion

More than four decades after the U.S. Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision, opponents and supporters of abortion rights are still battling over the issue in court, at the ballot box and in state legislatures. On Friday, opponents of the ruling will converge on Washington, D.C., for an annual march to protest the decision. And next week, President Donald Trump is expected to nominate a new Supreme Court justice who he has said will be “pro-life.”

As the debate over abortion continues, here are five key facts about Americans’ views on the topic, based on recent Pew Research Center polling:

1About six-in-ten U.S. adults (59%) say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, compared with 37% who say it should be illegal all or most of the time. Public support for legal abortion is now as high as it’s been in two decades of polling.

2There is a substantial partisan and ideological divide on abortion, with Democrats much more likely than Republicans to say it should be legal in all or most cases. This gap is even larger between liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans: Nearly nine-in-ten liberal Democrats (88%) say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, compared with only about three-in-ten self-described conservatives in the GOP (27%).

3When it comes to the Supreme Court’s landmark 1973 ruling, about seven-in-ten Americans (69%) say Roe v. Wade should not be completely overturned. Democrats are far more likely than Republicans to hold this view, and there are also significant differences by education level and religious affiliation. Nearly nine-in-ten of those with postgraduate degrees (88%) say the court should not overturn the decision, versus about seven-in-ten of those with a college degree (74%) or some college experience (70%) and 62% of those with a high school diploma or less education. There are no significant differences on this question by gender. 

4More than four-in-ten Americans (44%) say having an abortion is morally wrong, while 19% think it is morally acceptable and 34% say it is not a moral issue. These views also differ by religious affiliation: About three-quarters of white evangelical Protestants (76%) say having an abortion is morally wrong, but just 23% of religiously unaffiliated people agree.

5Many states around the country have enacted their own abortion restrictions in recent years. The Guttmacher Institute, a research group that supports abortion rights, reports that 27 states currently enforce waiting periods of between one and three days for women seeking abortions. And 11 states limit abortion coverage offered through private health insurance plans, most commonly to restrict abortions to instances in which women’s lives are in danger.

Note: This is an update to a post originally published Jan. 22, 2014.

Category: 5 Facts

Topics: Religion and Government, Political Attitudes and Values, Supreme Court, Religion and U.S. Politics, Abortion, Religious Affiliation, Social Values

  1. Photo of Michael Lipka

    is a senior editor focusing on religion at Pew Research Center.

  2. Photo of John Gramlich

    is a writer/editor at Pew Research Center.


  1. Anonymous6 months ago

    For those in favor of overturning Roe v Wade, please consider: Abortions will continue, only they will be done by women, the pregnant woman probably with the aid of a friend. We will go back to the DIY abortions, very dangerous to both the woman and her unborn child. Pro-life, yes, but we need to be realists. Focus should be on sensible restrictions and keep the Hyde Amendment in place. Having a child is a blessing, not a burden. Keep the law, change hearts and minds.

  2. Anonymous6 months ago

    The vast majority of pregnancy terminations are natural miscarriages. If life begins at conception, does that make a woman with a miscarriage into a criminal? When a fertilized embryo doesn’t implant in the uterus but gets passed out with the menstrual flow, does that mean you have to have a funeral for every used tampon? What about a woman with an ectopic pregnancy? If allowed to continue, both the woman and embryo will not survive. If the ectopic pregnancy is excised, the woman will live and can conceive again. But if life begins at conception, none of these items make sense.

    1. Anonymous6 months ago

      I believe that life does, indeed, begin at conception. If a woman miscarries a child, through no fault of her own, there is no crime in that. A crime or moral wrong lies in the mother’s action and intent. In the case of ectopic pregnancy, you are correct. The mother cannot survive if she continues the pregnancy naturally. However, by the doctor doing surgery on the infected tube, she will live. This procedure usually results in the death of the child. However, this procedure was not a direct action to kill the child, unlike taking an abortion pill. Therefore, it is not morally wrong or a criminal behavior. The procedure was done to save a life. There have also been cases where doctors were able to implant the child into the mother’s uterus, and she was able to carry the child to term.

  3. Anonymous6 months ago

    These are not facts about abortion. These are facts about American’s views on abortion.

  4. Anonymous6 months ago

    I would really like to see more politicians who refuse to polarize this issue. Politicians seem to speak of abortion in terms of it being morally reprehensible at any stage, or they flat out lie, or exaggerate cases in which an abortion is medically necessary to save a woman’s life late in pregnancy. The sad fact is that most late-term abortions are not undertaken to save a woman’s life. I’ve been on both sides of this argument, and I’m not against very early abortions. However, if our country were to get rid of 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions, we would also need to greatly increase women’s access and affordability of birth control, as well as the morning-after pill and early abortions. Why can’t our politicians understand that attempts to prevent post-viability abortions are not hidden attempts to legitimize a cluster of 4 cells as a human being. This happens with common-sense approaches to gun control, too. Both sides see even the slightest shift in towards the other side as a hidden attempt to take away everything they hold dear. I argue that the politicians aren’t stupid, and they know that these middle-ground approaches make the most sense, but they make speeches proclaiming the other side is attacking our way of life so they can win elections. It’s absurd. I’m over this crap.

    1. Anonymous6 months ago

      Spot on…

  5. Anonymous6 months ago

    For those who are against abortion and want to use religion to back up your decision to go against a woman’s decision not to have a child. In the bible “The Bible doesn’t talk about abortion, however there are verses that does speaks about unborn child in different books but the bible also does talks about people taking care of the poor and the fatherless, homeless, etc… But here is the problem, all of you who are against abortion and stopped women from having an abortion, how many of you have given these women help, money, assistants for bringing the child to the world. Are you protecting the child from being abandon, foster homes, hurt or even worst. It is so easy to speak up but so hard to follow through and help those women. It takes a village to raise a child where are the villagers. All talk but no action. If you are going to protest be ready to help these women. If not remember that Jesus said it is not your job to judge.

    1. Anonymous6 months ago

      So true!!

    2. Anonymous6 months ago

      I think a lot of help is offered to single mothers through the Federal, State and local governments. Religious organizations have outreach programs to help them as well. All this is funded by us tax payers and through our charitable contributions. In a way, we are helping these women.

    3. Anonymous6 months ago

      well the Constitution says “all men are created equal… with certain unalienable rights… life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

    4. Anonymous6 months ago

      It’s not about judging the mother, it’s about protecting the baby.

  6. Anonymous6 months ago

    I just have one question. No disrespect right wingers [I’m a individualist myself]..Batut whatever happen to “Seperation of Church and State?”

    1. Anonymous6 months ago

      All religious people are pro-life and non-religious are pro-choice?

    2. Anonymous6 months ago

      There are plenty of non-religious arguments against abortion as well that hold plenty of merit. My opinion, for example, is that whether you consider the thing the woman possesses in her womb a human or not, regardless of your religious obligations, the to-be mother and respective father made choices that initiated a process that absolutely results in a person being born if nothing is done to prevent it, a person who will be protected with rights by the constitution, so the argument is that abortion is not an issue regarding the woman or her rights to her own body because it is concerning another to-be person and their rights. No religion involved, just the logical concept of a necessarily to-be person having rights the same way a woman has rights. But yeah, otherwise i agree, religious motivation should not legislate

    3. Anonymous6 months ago

      great comment. the sierra club lost tax free status when it spoke out against new dams in the grand canyon because that was a ‘political’ position. if ‘they’ removed the tax free status of all the churches that get involved in politics, we would have a balanced budget and do deficit. this country has been bullied by religious fanatics for too long.

  7. Marie V.6 months ago

    What is right and and what is wrong is not determined by public opinion; it is determined by God. There is a commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.” (5th commandment in Catholic Church; in non-Catholic religions, the 6th commandment is “Thou shalt not murder.”). Abortion is the deliberate killing of an innocent and helpless human being. An unborn child is not a part of a woman’s body; it is a separate human being with its own gender and DNA, it’s own body with its own brain and organs.

    Of course, it’s a difficult situation if one is unwed and pregnant. God never intended men and women to have intercourse without being in a permanent relationship. “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh.” (Genesis) But abortion is still wrong; only God has the right to decide who should live or die.

    In regard to contraception: contraception does not reduce the number of abortions; it gives young people a false sense of security so that they engage in risky behavior. When contraception doesn’t work, people tend to think that abortion is the solution to an unwanted pregnancy. Sex was intended for procreation and to express love–it was not meant to be recreation. And movies and TV are to blame in a large part for promoting sex as recreation.

    1. Anonymous6 months ago

      And since your religion is the one and only true religion, you think it is fine to force your religion on others. You will find that many disagree with you.

      1. Anonymous6 months ago

        So what should we do with all these unwanted children? Tell me that.. adoption, please….there are hundreds of thousands of children waiting to be adopted. It doesn’t happen and it’s even less likely to happen if that child is a minority. Forcing women to have children they don’t want and in most cases can’t take care of is a huge mistake. These children would be way more likely to be abused and in poverty. So then it becomes a societal issue bc we have to support these people. Pro life doesn’t make sense in this day and age. It doesn’t make financial sense most importantly. People are NEVER going to stop having sex! Get over yourselves religious fanatics.

    2. Anonymous6 months ago

      I’m sorry, but your facts are wrong. Abortion is the result of an unwanted pregnancy– for whatever reason, a woman does not want to BE PREGNANT. If contraception is available, there are less unwanted pregnancies, and less abortions. Even if contraception, used improperly, results in a few unwanted pregnancies, it is still a far lower number than without contraception. I will give the links to these figures in my next post.

      Also, I totally agree that an embryo or fetus is the beginning of a completely separate person, not an appendage of a woman’s body, but it is wholly dependent on the woman’s body to develop, and until we find a way to do it without the woman, she has a right to decide what happens to her body. This interest to control one’s own body is balanced against the fetus/baby’s right to develop and become a person. If one were to apply your logic, that by somehow having procreated, a person becomes responsible unconditionally to ensure and provide for the life of the human that followed, then we should have laws that can require parents to donate kidneys, bone marrow, and liver parts to their children at any stage of life… we don’t have those kinds of laws. People may take those actions out of love, but we don’t require it because we recognize that it is a basic human right for individuals to control their own bodies, and that this is balanced against the other person’s right to survival. Likewise, a fetus’s right to survival is balanced against a woman’s right to control what happens to her body. We do not have a right to force her to be an incubator.

      And, while I can’t force you to have an abortion or practice a particular religion, you have no rights in our system of government to force me to follow your religious beliefs. I am entitled to my choices and you are entitled to yours. If I break a commandment, that is between me & god. The rights of humankind here on earth, to live together in civil societies, requires tolerance and a balancing of competing interests.

      Ps. Buddhists, naturalists, and humanists don’t recognize your commandments. Unless you think we should also entertain the idea of sharia law in this country, I find it highly inappropriate to put your entire argument in terms of god. God is nowhere in the constitution of the United States. A creator is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence which noted that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are all self-evident rights (that require balancing).

      Again, you have full freedom to work to prevent abortions, to counsel and fund alternatives, but you don’t have the right to tell me that I can’t get one.

      1. Anonymous6 months ago

        Ok, just don’t make me pay for your abortion.

    3. Anonymous6 months ago

      If you actually want to prevent abortions, support effective, free contraception.


      1. Anonymous6 months ago

        Or have the father step up and not leave the family.

    4. Anonymous6 months ago

      If you don’t believe in god that makes your entire argument invalid. God said “thou shall not kill” right? What about the Crusades? Oh it’s different because people killed in the name of God.

    5. Anonymous6 months ago

      Yes, a fetus, a human being, depends on the woman to provide for him, just as much as an elderly parent depends on their child to care for them in the latter stages of life. Science, not religion, has proven the humanity of a fetus, even before twenty weeks. At what point is it okay to kill the unborn–I have a beautiful 35 year old niece who was born almost 10 weeks premature. We must support every woman throughout and after their pregnancy. I hope we’ll one day realize what it actually takes place during an abortion and God forgives us for allowing it to happen.

    6. Anonymous6 months ago

      I completely agree with you!!!

    7. Anonymous6 months ago

      I am an atheist and I don’t wish for others who happen to have differing beliefs to impose their beliefs upon me. You may choose to never end a pregnancy which is your right just as it is other’s right to make their own decision on this important topic for themselves.

      Historically, I have valued the liberty and freedom that we have enjoyed in the United States. These emanate, in part, from our separation of church and state…also something I value. These attributes and values are now at risk because a few wish to impose their beliefs on others.

      This fundamentally changes the values of our country in opposition to the wishes of an overwhelming majority. What happens next will be interesting. Some say, “It will all turn out okay” which could be right or there could be dire consequences for a country in which its leadership ignore the will of its citizenry.

    8. Anonymous6 months ago

      Do you not eat pork or wear mixed fabrics? God said that too.

      1. Anonymous6 months ago

        That actually applies to the Mosaic Law, which Christians are no longer under.

        1. Blair White6 months ago

          Since the Bible says Moses brought the Ten Commandments down from the mountain, not one but two times, are Christians free from them as well? Where does that put the “thou shalt not kill/murder” argument?

    9. Anonymous6 months ago

      So true

  8. Anonymous6 months ago

    What is right and and what is wrong is not determined by public opinion; it is determined by God. There is a commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.” (5th commandment in Catholic Church; in non-Catholic religions, the 6th commandment is “Thou shalt not murder.”). Abortion is the deliberate killing of an innocent and helpless human being. An unborn child is not a part of a woman’s body; it is a separate human being with its own gender and DNA, it’s own body with its own brain and organs.

    Of course, it’s a difficult situation if one is unwed and pregnant. God never intended men and women to have intercourse without being in a permanent relationship. “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh.” (Genesis) But abortion is still wrong; only God has the right to decide who should live or die.

    In regard to contraception: contraception does not reduce the number of abortions; it gives young people a false sense of security so that they engage in risky behavior. When contraception doesn’t work, people tend to think that abortion is the solution to an unwanted pregnancy. Sex was intended for procreation and to express love–it was not meant to be recreation. And movies and TV are to blame in a large part for promoting sex as recreation.

    1. Jaafer Irfan6 months ago

      I see your faith claims that an Abortion is wrong, and murder.
      However, the Constitution essentially states there must be a separation of church and state. We cannot have law that has its roots in religion, as that is unconstitutional.
      So what I am trying to say is:
      What is right and what is wrong is not determined by public opinion, it is determined by law that does not have basis on religion.

      1. Anonymous6 months ago

        The phrase “separation of church and state” is not found in the constitution nor is the “right to safe and legal abortions”. That is supreme court justices playing an adult form of telephone with our laws based on their own bias.

        1. Anonymous6 months ago

          Just read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation….
          Yes, “separation of church and state” wasn’t the exact language used in the Constitution, but it was Thomas Jefferson himself who used that phrase in regards to what the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause were meant to exemplify. And courts throughout the country’s history have upheld this as the meaning.

      2. Anonymous6 months ago

        No where in the constitution or bill of rights does it list or say separation of church and state. Please do research, that has been distorted.

      3. Anonymous6 months ago

        The constitution does not say separation it says freedom to choose your religion

        1. Anonymous6 months ago

          You didn’t read far enough. Try Article 3 Section 1: The Supreme Court of The United States gets to interpret the Constitution, not you. And guess what? They have done so and repeatedly coming down on the side of Separation.
          Here’s a list of other words not found in the Constitution: Separation of Powers, Presumption of Innocence, Right to Remain Silent, State’s Rights, Limited Government, etc.
          Hey…Look what ISN’T in the Bible: Democracy, Balance of Power (checks and balances), Trial by Jury, Habeas Corpus, Due Process, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press, Right to Education, Equality of the Genders, and many other United States characteristics. How can anyone allege we are a Christian Nation if everything special about the United States is not IN the Bible?

      4. Anonymous6 months ago

        Not in the Constitution. Read it.

    2. Anonymous6 months ago

      If a female-young or older, knows that they do NOT want to be a parent, why should they be forced to. At this time there are no laws to force the “father ” to stay and raise these children. At the same time, mothers can and do get charged with felony abandonment! If they know they don’t want to be a parent why do YOU believe that they should be forced to? Why do you want to bring unwanted children into the world?

      1. Anonymous6 months ago

        Nobody is forcing anyone to have children… Use your freedom of CHOICE to avoid it. I am pro-life because all murder is wrong, and I do not want to live in a society where it continues.

  9. Anonymous6 months ago

    Pew is asking this question very narrowly- framing it politically. Ask the question, “Ought people avoid having an abortion?” or “Ought one have an abortion for rape/incest?” and then you may see folks taking a similar stance. I’m an atheist but an abortion is not a surgery that people should enjoy having- be rational hear. So ideally, one would want to avoid it.

    Other questions to ask: “Do you think protesting a place that provides abortion services is an effective way to lower abortion rates in America?” Ask that one. Rates have dropped to some of the lowest in history since Roe vs Wade. Could it be because of the good services of Planned Parenthoot, ACA/Obamacare, education, or a combination of these?

  10. Anonymous1 year ago

    Many comments use the words “murder”.
    According to many animal rights activists killing some species of animal is also murder.
    It appears what can make a killing into a murder is if the murdered is deemed to have a divine spark.
    Nonetheless there are many exceptions to the rule. Most anti-abortionist seem to accept capital punishment (the reverse is also true).
    Most religions allow the killing of fellow human being to advance the cause of said religion.
    The subject is most confusing.

    My personal belief is the combination of religion and sex leads is far more controversial than either of the two ares on their own.

  11. Anonymous1 year ago

    I dislike abortion. I have no idea when killing unborn babies became an acceptable idea in the United States, but it really is shocking. On top of that, Planned Parenthood sells aborted babies. That cuts it right there. No matter how much you are in favor of women’s rights, there is no way that should happen. NO WAY. At that point, the issue ceases to become a one of women’s rights, it becomes a moral one. There are special cases where an abortion might be necessary, such as when the mother might die from giving birth, but these are few and far between. Instead of having abortion, why not open up some second options such as adoption? This way the child will still live and not be the mother’s responsibility. One final note: the father should get some say in the matter. Very little, if anything, has been said about the role of the father in abortion. What if he wants to keep the child and will raise the child right? Apparently his opinion doesn’t matter under woman’s rights. I’m not against rights for women, but on abortion it has gone too far.

    1. Anonymous6 months ago

      Fetuses, not babies. Nobody supports late term abortions, or abortions on babies already born. 😉

    2. JustaNutrAlienOfRoc36 months ago

      and SOME people believe anything! The conservatives put out so much propaganda, (anti-abortion) they’d have some people believe that jackolopes exist. #OhMyWORD
      The next time someone offers you information that challenges or debunks the claims you’ve taken as true, on face value, I highly suggest you check them out. Better yet, DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR/SEE!

    3. Anonymous6 months ago

      PP does not sell aborted fetuses for profit. This has been proven again and again. The idea that they do was a fabrication by anti-abortion groups

  12. Anonymous1 year ago

    IMO abortion on demand is wrong. However, if someone were to ask me if they should have an abortion, I would say the decision is between them and their doctor. Sometimes there are valid reasons to terminate a pregnancy. The health of the mother, or in a case of rape or incest. In the case of an otherwise unintended pregnancy and it’s clear the mother is not happy about it, then I would recommend adoption. There are many people who can’t conceive children of their own, but still want to have a family. So adoption would be a good solution.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      A good solution for whom? The mother who risks her life to produce a baby (at her own financial expense) for people who can’t (or don’t want to) conceive? You really have no respect or concern for women (and girls) do you?

      1. Robin S Voyage1 year ago

        Are women and or girls more important than any other sex? Protecting a human life, especially one of an innocent baby growing in the womb, is the righteous position. To favour a woman or a man deciding to kill this life is immoral, wrong, and not a decision that one should trumpet as a proud moment.

      2. Anonymous6 months ago

        Thank you

  13. Anonymous1 year ago

    Do you know how the Supreme Court came to legalize abortion in 1973? By writing the opinion that the word “person” in the US Constitution did not apply to the unborn. That is shocking. The US Supreme Court ruled in the Dred Scott case in 1857 that the word “person” did not apply to black slaves. The German courts ruled in the 1930’s that the word “person” did not apply to Jews. Congratulations, America, you have added a third party to the “nonperson” category, in the choice of legal “nonperson” status that puts you on the side of former slavery supporters and Nazis.

    1. Robin S Voyage1 year ago

      I just don’t think they think much at all about the value of a human life: whether it be a black’s, a Jew’s, or an unborn baby. As long as it gets them political points and vote, they will use that stance to consolidate their power and influence.

    2. Anonymous6 months ago

      Yes, but the essential difference here is that the life being terminated is INSIDE OF ANOTHER PERSON’S BODY. It’s absolutely categorically wrong to say that Jews or black people aren’t people. They are not something that is INSIDE OF and directly affecting the health and life of another human being.

  14. Sandra S Nathan1 year ago

    It’s puzzling why this is such a difficult decision, according to law, in our country. We are a democracy and people have freedom to choose doctors, hospitals, medical care. This subject has been debated to nausea, and no end. ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL, IT SHOULD NOT BE FUNDED BY GOVERNMENT. period!!! Women “humans” will have to accept any emotional liability from their choice – either way. NOT the government’s business.
    However, it would be beneficial to human population for government to furnish birth control, given the huge amount of illegitimate, welfare babies born and become welfare mothers and fathers in their adult lives. AND, it would curb the population of stupid, selfish humans, including animal abusers. THAT’s my opinion.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago


    2. Robin S Voyage1 year ago

      Except that to murder a human is a state matter.. and abortion is murder.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        The fetus doesnt have a brain at the point where you can still abort it so it has no conscience and there for can not think or feel or know from right or wrong ergo IT ISNT MURDER its not the same thing

  15. Anonymous1 year ago

    The issue is actually simple. Life either is sacred, has value, or it does not. After this philosophical decision is made, the rest is easy – conception is the start of life. Birth Control that prevents conception is acceptable, but once conception begins, LIFE ITSELF, all abortion is morally wrong. And yes, that includes results of rape, incest, etc. Difficult, but having moral courage of one’s belief, only matters when challenged.

    1. Joe Carson1 year ago

      Contraception is NOT acceptable.

    2. Robin S Voyage1 year ago

      Well put.

    3. Mgb 3601 year ago

      Life actually does not start at conception. It starts with the creation of gametes. Those cells are alive, much like an embryo is alive, and much like my skin cells are alive.

    4. Anonymous6 months ago

      So, if life matters, should we force organ and tissue donation? Why are police allowed to kill? Why do we bomb people who are not in the moment killing anyone (maybe they are part of a group contemplating, but also, we make mistakes and kill innocents). Life is extinguished all the time for a variety of reasons. It is a complicated balancing of competing interests. Not simple as you would have it. And by the way, if a baby is “killing” a mother, she has a right to defend her own life and get rid of the baby.

  16. Clarice King1 year ago

    Frying an egg kills a baby chicken! I think those who want to stop abortion will then suggest sterilization. After all then there will be no more children for that woman. The government wants few blacks and poor whites.If they can’t have a baby problem solved. Think about it!

    1. John Jobin McAuliffe1 year ago

      Actually, no. The chicken eggs that you purchase at the grocery store are unfertilized eggs. Chickens lay a egg every 21 hours wether or not they have a mate. The egg that you purchase at the store is almost the same as the egg in your ovary. Look at the population rates in the western world, hint hint, we have a lowering population, not enough people are being born to replace the dying ones, and single parenthood is through the roof, last thing we need is sterilization. We need FAMILIES.

  17. Anonymous1 year ago

    Birth control kills a fertilized egg a human being… Doctors don’t explain this…who owns the stock in pharmaceuticals..70% are DSM connected and on medications …the d is using abortion to destroy the innocence of unsuspecting people…there was a time when doctors were moral/promised to do no harm to their patients..it can come back if honesty is restored..TV and radio could do it…

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      Please go back to school. Birth control doesn’t kill anything. It prevents the ability of the egg to be fertilized by sperm by reducing or suppressing the formation of the egg. If your stop taking the pill, function usually returns to normal in a month or two.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        You might wanna check your fictions because there are several instances where science has proven you wrong

        1. Anonymous1 year ago

          birth control tricks your body into thinking you’re pregnant, therefore you do not drop an egg.

          1. Anonymous1 year ago

            Not all types birth control work the same.

  18. William Helton1 year ago

    Birth control today is 99.9 percent effective. I don’t understand how killing babies is still legal when pregnancy can be prevented by making smart choices. Choose birth control instead of murder. Its FREE for all 🙂

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      Birth control is not free. Condoms are free a planned parenthood locations and on college campuses but that is it. More effective birth control methods such as birth control pills can cost anywhere from $50 – $200 if it is not covered by your insurance.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        How do you figure? Obamacare made annual exams and birth control free. This is all covered by you mandatory insurance.

        1. Anonymous1 year ago

          Hobby Lobby case allows ‘religious freedom’ to keep any type of birth control from their employees

          1. Anonymous6 months ago

            Then don’t work for Hobby Lobby or the Catholic Church.

      2. Anonymous1 year ago

        Umm actually birth control IS free,at planned parenthood just like they give out condoms they give free birth control prescript,i know because thats where i go to get both of those things.

      3. Brian Van De Walker1 year ago

        Birth control is already free, always has been, don’t want to be pregnant? THEN DON’T FOOL AROUND IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! KEEP YOUR PANTS ON LIKE RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE!!! I KEEP MY ON!!! AND YES TEENS CAN KEEP THEM ON TOO!!!!

        Oh and while we are at it stop teaching kids that sex outside of marriage is okay, cause its not, the consequences are hell on earth for everyone involved (including the close relatives of both people) and that is without pregnancy, not to mention the health risks. Sex outside of some a permanent contractual relationship is not only foolish, it is just stupid, and people who do it should be spade and neutered like cats so that their idiocy stops showing up.

        1. Anonymous6 months ago

          Wow!!! Thank you!! Agreed!!!!

    2. Anonymous1 year ago

      What if the birth control doesn’t work? I am pro choice, and i think all of America should be as well. Whatever I decide to do with my body is no one else’s business! Not the Christians, Catholic, or whomever have a problem with it. I really don’t understand what’s the big issue. If you don’t want your baby, then I’d rather for you to get an abortion other than to add to the percentage of TERRIBLE mothers!! Maybe you’re not ready, which is understandable because a baby is a HUGE responsibility. Majority of abortion cases isn’t displayed, so therefore you don’t know the issue. I believe if you decide to go through with the procedure, you’re stronger than most people.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        The big issue is that human lives are being murdered. Ultimately, we should not put ourselves in situations of possibly becoming pregnant if we can’t handle the responsibility of caring for that life, inside and outside the womb. God has entrusted women with the beautiful gift of carrying life. And the bible clearly states that the life inside the womb has as much value as you and I. That life has a soul, and a purpose. Made by God, in the image of God. And is loved immeasurably by Him. Just like you and I. We are so so loved by our Creator. He sent His Son to die for you and me, the whole world, including all the unborn babies. Please reconsider your position, and look inward at why you take the view you do. We all have corrupto, immoral hearts. Jesus is the only one who can do anything about that. God bless.

        1. Anonymous1 year ago

          Umm, except you assign value based on mythology written by tribal dessert dwellers of the Iron Age who were also ALL MALE. It has no place in modern decision-making and certainly no constitutional place in women’s rights. The sooner we pay attention to the separation of church and state the better for this country finally breaking free of this Christian Taliban. Besides, why would it be men alone who’ve decided to assign such high value to childbearing? Because it enables them to control women.

          As for population decline, that’s easily reversed with immigration which is what America has always done. And besides, this planet’s resources are already strained. Humans are just not that “precious” when they overrun the environment like a cancer.

          1. Anonymous1 year ago

            First of all I must point out you are a human. If you care so much about overpopulation, would you kill yourself? No, you’d rather be a coward and have babies who haven’t even been born yet die instead. Your pro-choice campaign makes me shake my head. Apparently, the choice belongs only to the mother whether to abort or not. A father who might take good care of the child has no say. And of course the child doesn’t have a say, right? (sarcasm) The main point is don’t get pregnant if you can’t handle the responsibility of taking care of a baby. Perhaps you don’t think a life matters, but it really does.

          2. Anonymous6 months ago

            Great job, very well worded-thank you

    3. Anonymous6 months ago

      the majority of abortions are done by women on birth control. Birth control can still fail sometimes. Condoms can still break. Plan-B may not work or the person may not know of the option because their school and community only taught them abstinence only education.

  19. Heather Thompson1 year ago

    To everyone who is adamantly “pro-life”, have you ever considered starting your own political party? Oh, the important changes you could make, and the companionship of likeminded people with deep-seated values …

    Would pale in comparison to the sighs of gratitude from gun owners like myself, knowing that every election won’t be doomed from the start. Please, get of the GOP, you’re ruining everything!

    Thank you.

  20. Stuart Leventhal1 year ago

    If abortion became illegal in 50 states – what does that mean?

    Who is then the “criminal”? Is it the mother / the abortion practitioner / the nurse ?

    And what might the charges be – murder / manslaughter?

    And if a friend or a neighbor learned of someone’s impending abortion – are they obligated to tell the police? If not can they be criminally charged as an accessory – like a getaway driver in a robbery?

  21. David Tello1 year ago

    I’m a religious person but I’m stuck on the idea of that if you are impregnated by rape or such acts then that you must give birth to the baby. I’d rather let the women have the choice to give it up to adoption or to have it aborted. Also If that they have a harmful condition that could pass on to the child, the child can be from marriage or rape, then that they ,again they have the choice to have an abortion or adoption.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      I think the adoption option (I didn’t mean for it to rhyme there) is followed up enough. I agree with you that in certain cases abortion should be allowed but adoption seems to be almost ignored.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        because if you never wanted the child in the first place why would you put your body and mind through that type of stress to then have a child which you have then been forced to connect with because it grows inside of you and you give birth to it, to only just give it away. I understand the whole dont get pregnant in the first place thing then but things happen every day and birth control isnt 100% effective 100% of the time.

      2. Anonymous6 months ago

        Talk to people who have gone through foster care. I’ve heard a number mention they would have rather been aborted than have gone through foster care. A decent chunk of the kids that go through it end up homeless with giant psychological issues and significant trouble forming relationships(be it love relationships or friendships). Until I see our foster care system sitting relatively bare because they’re all getting adopted out incredibly quickly the adoption option is really not a valid option.

  22. Joseph Oreilly1 year ago

    I find it interesting that so many ‘abortion on demand’ supporters first say, ‘We should stop arguing about abortion and….’. Why? Could it be that in the years since Roe v. Wade science has improved our ability to actually see when ‘viability’ begins? Avoiding discussion and above all facts, or at least inconvenient data is the hallmark of a weak argument. ‘If you can’t win with facts, increase the volume and divert, delay, decry! The German laws were passed and blessed by the Nazi version of our Supreme Court. Of course they simply tapped the rich vein of anti-Semitism that already existed. Witness the 1850’s Prussian judicial ruling and laws that forbad Jews to duel on the grounds that ‘a Jew could have no honor to defend’. Like abortion: feed the impulse, avoid rational discussion.
    And so it goes…..

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      Viability does not matter! It is the mothers responsibility to support that life until the baby is viable. As far as I and any other Christian is concerned, babies have souls from the very beginning. Terminating that life is even worse than murdering a person who is capable of defending themselves, in my honest opinion. These children depend on their mother to protect them.

    2. Mgb 3601 year ago

      You do realize viability is quite close to what the law already states?

    3. Anonymous6 months ago

      And here we have Godwin’s law demonstrated

  23. john lee1 year ago

    It would give a more informed perspective if the survey shows the breakdown by gender and age.

    1. Michael Lipka1 year ago


      Thanks for your comment. In this link, you will find a table with views on abortion by age and gender (as well as political party) from our most recent survey on the topic: people-press.org/2015/09/28/majo….

      Thanks again,
      Michael Lipka

  24. Romans Road2 years ago

    Abortion kills human life. We must resist it. It is the single biggest mass killing phenomenon in human history. Doctors deceiving mothers and killing their children.

    Obviously people need to be educated on the reality of life within the womb. What saddens me is the apathy of many, lulled to sleep by constant entertainment. Meanwhile those who take a stand are hushed my a false consensus.

    1. Gerry Gentile1 year ago

      Abortion kills nothing of the sort. You’re equating a human fetus to a human being. The two are totally different.

      What makes us human beings isn’t an imaginary soul, implanted in a one-pico-second-old fertilized egg. It’s our minds, and absent sufficient brain development, there is no mind, either potential or actual.

      It’s the myth of ensoulment that explains the fact that it is overwhelmingly the Christian community that opposes abortion.

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        Wether there is a soul or not is, besides the point. It’s very easy to argue the child is not one when it is a one-Pico second old fertilized egg, but what about when it has a heart beat. Arms and legs where abortion involves tearing the child limb from limb in the womb.
        It is a serious moral question that sometimes the left fails to address seriously, and that is a sad thing.

      2. Anonymous1 year ago

        Sure anyone can so around saying that abortions don’t kill real humans they kill cells, embryos, or fetus without minds. But have you thought about what those things really are? A embryo? A fetus? They are the things that make a baby. They are a baby. Eventually they will form a baby. So yes, abortions do kill babies. Just because at the time the abortion happens the baby is so under developed that it does not even have a mind yet, does not mean you are not killing a live thing. Because one day that ‘fetus’ or ’embryo’ will be a baby. It will have thoughts just like you and I. And I don’t believe that you will look at the baby once its born and say, oh you’re just a bunch of cells you can’t communicate, so therefore we aren’t killing a living thing. NO YOU WON’T A UNBORN BABY IS STILL A LIVE THING!

      3. Anonymous1 year ago

        At conception, a zygote is formed, genetically different from the mother. That means that the two are separate organisms. Science, not religion, proves this.

    2. Anonymous1 year ago

      I agree with you abortion is murder of an innocent human. People please stand up for these babies!!!! We kill more babies in the womb than any other nation on earth. Easy the taxpayer funds Planned parenthood through yes…Obama Care!!

  25. Romans Road2 years ago

    Abortion ends life.

    1. Jim Love2 years ago

      Hey abortion makes life if you think about it.

    2. Anonymous1 year ago

      There is no life in a fetus

      1. Anonymous1 year ago

        And yet it still develops into a human baby, full of life.

  26. Beautiful2 years ago

    this is very useful information for the children around the world today and girls if you feel this is something you need to go through just make sure this isn’t going to be something you will regret later in life.

  27. Kay2 years ago

    Do you know how the Supreme Court came to legalize abortion in 1973? By writing the opinion that the word “person” in the US Constitution did not apply to the unborn. That is shocking. The US Supreme Court ruled in the Dred Scott case in 1857 that the word “person” did not apply to black slaves. The German courts ruled in the 1930’s that the word “person” did not apply to Jews. Congratulations, America, you have added a third party to the “nonperson” category, in the choice of legal “nonperson” status that puts you on the side of former slavery supporters and Nazis.

    1. J2 years ago

      Kay, just curious if you could find a source for the 1930s German decision you mentioned? I’m not disagreeing with you…just found it interesting but never heard that before. Thanks!

      1. Leon Davis2 years ago

        Look up the word “untermensch”. Means the same thing as “subhuman”. An animal with no soul. According to Nazis, the Jew was a being without a soul.
        The US Supreme Court ruled that way regarding the human fetus. A being without a soul.
        But the human fetus does indeed have a soul.
        When the sperm invades the egg, the soul is born. Meister Eckhart called it “the little soul spark”. The ancient Greeks called it “animae”.
        But for all that, throughout history, children have been treated badly: inside the womb, or out.

    2. Gerry Gentile1 year ago

      The difference is that those “non-humans” were very literally real, obvious, existing human beings. A fetus is not a person, because it’s our minds, not an imaginary soul that makes us human beings (i.e. persons). And all of the propaganda, and all of the wishing, and all of the carefully crafted photos showing that fetuses are “Oh-My-God-It’s-A-Baby!”, will never change that fact.

      That’s why I find the tactics of the anti-choice brigade so reprehensible. These bills that they push to require mandatory vaginal ultrasound procedures (paid for by the women, of course), and carefully written speeches explaining the “risks” (usually to the ‘precious preborn’) are little more than psychic rape.

      Women do not need to be emotionally manipulated under the guise of “Giving-Them-The-Facts-To-Allow-Them-To-Make-An-Informed-Choice”. “Facts” are the last thing the anti-choicers want anyone to be exposed to.

  28. Anna2 years ago

    When Jews went to the gas chamber, the ones who challenged Hitler were also exterminated. Eyes were turned then, because it didn’t involve ‘them’, the silent majority. Murder of any sort is inescapably a moral decision. The life that is being defended in this discussion concerning the unborn, is being raised, as that innocent and new life does not have the capacity to fight for their lives. If abortion is not a moral choice, then consequently murder is not a moral choice; and we all know murder is wrong. On another note, defending the constitution of the US is most definitely the duty of its citizens. As we know it begins with every single person is entitled to life….ah yes. Life. then liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    1. Elly2 years ago

      Hey there Anna:) I am doing a persuasive essay for school on why abortion is wrong (it took a lot of convincing to be allowed to write on such a touchy subject so I would like to do really well on it) would it be okay if I were to quote you in my paper? Thanks 🙂

  29. Gigi2 years ago

    We should stop arguing over abortion it is legal period. Let’s start outlawing these ridiculous mythologies that demand to be pushed on people who have enough sense not to believe in them. Please keep your personal choice in fairy tales out of my uteruse. If you don’t want to have an abortion then don’t. It’s just that simple. But don’t try to dictate to others that they must surrender their bodies to your will. Anyone who believes a woman should be forced to give birth because the Bible says we should reproduce is genuinely disturbed. Do you believe women who choose not to have sex with men should be raped and forced to carry an offspring? The world is overpopulated already these religious fanatics reproducing at an astronomical rate are going to be the downfall of society.

    1. Pro-life2 years ago

      Someone just broke into your house to murder you. You call the police because your life is at stake and that is what people do in those situations. The police will not come to help you, however, because they believe they should not have to “surrender their bodies” to save yours. But in the real world, not your fairy tale world where people apparently don’t believe that all life is valuable, the cops will come because that is the right thing to do. Just like you don’t kill an unborn baby, just because a pregnancy might add a little stress to your life because that is the right thing to do. Do you know how many rape victims actually get abortions? You should look it up because you will be VERY surprised. It is next to nothing. Even so, that is a terrible reason because that woman who was raped went through a very traumatizing experience and a baby, her baby, would bring so much love and joy into her life that she would need after that horrifying experience. I understand this may not be the case for everyone, and that is why there is adoption. Pregnancy is not about just the mom. There is a living being inside that woman and that being’s body matters just as much as hers. There are no if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. A life is a life.

      1. Richard Simpkins1 year ago

        That’s a poor analogy, because cops are NOT legally required to surrender their bodies to save another. They are, in fact, required to preserve their own lives first. A dead cop can’t help anyone.

    2. Chris2 years ago

      Wowwwww. So using your argument, an atheist can’t possibly be pro-life, huh? Ummm, you will find lots of atheists out there who are uncomfortable with abortion; even liberals. You don’t have to be religious to be opposed to abortion. Even Camille Paglia, who is pro-choice and an atheist, admits abortion is murder; and that liberals need to acknowledge that instead of hypocritically calling it a “blob”. It’s a human life. I think it is hilarious that feminists and liberals don’t have a problem with abortion, but if female infanticide and sex-selective abortion of females became a trend, THEN they will have a problem with abortion. What a bunch of phonies. It is no longer YOUR BODY when another body is involved.

      1. JJ2 years ago

        I wan’t to hear why it’s no longer your body when the fetus is clearly dependent on you. The fetus cannot live on its own but you can. Please tell me how your body and life just no longer matters because there is another one inside you.

        1. Jamie Grayson1 year ago

          It is your body, but it’s not JUST your body. It’s two bodies. Two human living organisms. One doesn’t want the other to continue to use her body and that, I feel, is her right. But to deny that there is another human life inside us is denial of basic biology and sets a dangerous precedence in regards to a human beings value determined by another. I am with Paglia on this one.
          Question for you. Since late term abortion requires labor induction, why not just induce the labor and allow the fetus to live? Why should it be legal to terminate a child’s life when it no longer needs the woman’s body? For instance, at 26 weeks the child has a 80-90% chance of survival. With live birth you end the pregnancy which is the right of the woman, but respect the child’s right to life. Why not promote that option? Why does the woman get to choose if that baby, who can survive without the use of her body gets to live or die?

          1. Anonymous1 year ago

            The dangerous precedent here is a view that defines a woman as a baby factory. There is no such thing as “basic biology,” and we should be highly suspect of — and question, rigorously — any and all “biological facts” that seem to support paternalistic arguments limiting the ability of a woman to live with the same freedoms as a male citizen.

  30. yo girl2 years ago

    Abortion SHOULD be illegal in all cases. end of conversation. You wouldn’t like seeing a piece of you and your partner create a little you? We were sent to this Earth to reproduce and leave great memories here, but obviously stupid people on this World don’t take that for granite. unfaithful people all over the world will be treated badly for this mistakes that there doing to little humans that cant defend themselves and speak there own opinion to this unworthy situation.
    AMEN to all those little ones whose worthless parents hurt them. You are in our memories and will fight for those who are coming. ♥

    1. catherinecallaghan2 years ago

      This entire discussion would be moot if we had:
      universally accessible, free birth control.

      It is not logical or reasonable to keep yelling that
      abortion is this or that if we are doing nothing to
      prevent pregnancies in the first place. That should
      be the FIRST order of business.
      Human beings have sex. Let’s all deal with that.
      If we prevent pregnancies, then population increases
      slow down and a lot of costs are reduced:
      Medical care, education, for starters.
      It doesn’t make sense to interfere with access to
      contraceptives since that merely reveals the true
      agenda: trying to control people’s sex lives.

    2. yo gurl2 years ago

      I feel da same way!!!!

    3. sam2 years ago

      that’s not the point it might be nice to see that but what if the girl was raped and she doesn’t have the option of t having the abortion and has a constant reminder of probably the worst night of her life. it should be their option if they want to keep it or not its her body her right to what she does with it. maybe she’s to young for a kid and isn’t ready for one. adoption isn’t a good choice ether 10 in every 4000 kids get adopted and the rest are left to leave in foster homes with nobody there for them. most kids in foster homes end up dropping out of high school ,homeless or using drugs and alcohol. in the end its not your decision on what they do with their bodies its not yours so let it be and let them have the option. instead of judging them on something only they understand at the time its their life their future too.

      1. Romans Road2 years ago

        No child should be killed because their father was a rapist. No mother’s child should be killed just because she was a rape victim. No reason to kill millions of innocent humans.

      2. Jamie Grayson1 year ago

        Your stats seem to describe foster adoption in which the parent(s) chose to parent which is completely different from mothers and fathers who choose adoption for their child at birth. The wait list for children placed up for adoption at birth is quite long and usually the birth mother has already chosen her child’s parents before the baby is even born. That was the case for myself and that is what my lawyer and agencies all state. The stat at that time was that for every baby, there are 7 couples who want them. And that doesn’t include the cases where the mother changes her mind.

    4. Romans Road2 years ago

      Abortion should always be illegal. It is mass murder by doctors.

    5. Stephanie Beasley1 year ago

      You would be so much more credible if you knew how to spell and how to construct a sensible sentence. Then I would like to know if you are a female who has been raped and impregnated and decided to carry that child full term. I have been raped, and impregnated, so feel that I can truly express my beliefs as I have direct knowledge of what that felt like. In addition, it was a family member and happened when I was in my teens. So before you shake your finger and moralize, please know what the heck you are pontificating about.

  31. Rochelle2 years ago

    First, I want to say everyone has their own options about any and everything in this world. Many of yall who has commented is pro-choice, personally I’m pro-life. I believe and this is coming from a spiritually point of view; God would not let a woman get prego if he didn’t want that child to grow up and make a change. All the fetus that the woman are killing, how do you know that baby wasn’t going to grow up and make this world a better place. I understand when people say that if a child is raped and get implanted with a baby but you never know why it happen. I understand that it is wrong for that to happen and that the child can have a problem but there is people in this world who cant have babies and would love to take care of one or two. And also the main reason woman have abortion is because they didn’t want it to happen and don’t want to step up and be the responsible one. So i say lets stop Abortion and make it illegal!!!

  32. Mark2 years ago

    I would note that the question including the wording “legal in all or most cases” misses the key differences that I believe divide most Americans. First, “most” is undefined. Does most cases mean only in the first trimester (because that is when more than 80% of abortions take place)? Or does it mean “except during the birth process”? The large majority of Americans support first trimester abortion, but most of our debate lately has been about the second and especially third trimester. I think the key, basic question should be changed to reflect this.

    1. Richard Simpkins1 year ago

      There are other polls that ask about each trimester.

  33. caitlin collier2 years ago

    i think abortion are WRONG!! because i think if you have a baby growing inside you then you shouldn’t have an abortion its like murdering someone

  34. Gary Crum2 years ago

    Over 2000 human hearts are destroyed with sharp objects and powerful suction devices every day in the USA. The issue will not go away because this violence is not a “none-of-our business,” personal autonomy issue, it is a policy of lethal action against a large subset of humanity. I am speaking in a scientific sense, not a religious one.

    Any policy that says one part of the human family is not worthy to be alive in the morning, is an elitist one, and is thus un-American.

    1. Derek J2 years ago

      Speaking your opinion is and should always be welcomed, but please don’t confuse yours or mine as being “scientific”. And since you mentioned it, being elitist and believing ones personal views should dictate what anyone else is legally allowed to do, is in fact quite American.

      But I digress….Abortion may be morally wrong in many peoples views, but as the above article points out, there is a significant difference between what is morally right, and what is law. Our laws can be created to govern small everyday issues in our lives, but they are also necessary sometimes to handle the “worst case scenario”.

      Telling a woman who has been raped and impregnated that she has no option of how to handle the future of herself or her unborn child because of your beliefs sounds pretty elitist to me.

      1. Bencher2 years ago

        You did a great job of spouting off the Left’s talking points, but the fact is the law is violated daily. You’ve simply buried your head in the sand because you believe your ideology is being fulfilled. You’ve actually fallen prey to the classic Dem straw man that usually is about as deep as their arguments go these days. Most Americans can stomach an abortion for the health of the mother as well as in cases of rape an incest. But that is not how abortion is practiced in this country. If you ask is abortion should be legal in all cases, the percentages in favor flip to about 30%. You simply turn away like Dems do as a rule to the unethical as long as it assuages their ideology.

        1. Derek J2 years ago

          First please take note that my comment brought up nothing about dem v repub, or left v right. Your choice to base most of your reply on political bias clearly speaks to your inability to actually “reply” to my previous comment, let alone read the above article which is what informs these comments.

          In fact the only sentence that you used plain information and numbers (regarding support of abortion in all cases being around 30%) completely contradicts the percentage listed in the article above. If you choose to debate the statistics that the article provides, so be it, but please site your sources and bring your fight against PEW.

        2. Castalia2 years ago

          So it is wrong for a 12 year old whose step father raped her and who will die before she can give birth, killing the fetus along with the child-mother, to get an abortion and save the life of the child/mother/rape victim? So it is wrong to save the life of a woman with severe gestational disorders who will die before she can deliver a viable infant?

          Do you know that most abortions are performed on married women with either medical disorders or other inability to deliver a live child? … and many more are performed on married women who cannot support a child. Most women who get abortions already have one or more child already.

          Did you know that abortion DIDN’T BEGIN WITH ROE VS WADE? AND IT WON’T STOP WHEN IT BECOMES ILLEGAL. All that making abortion legal did was make it so women don’t have to go to back street butchers or use wire coathangers to attempt an abortion.

          Did you know that a fetus can’t feel pain until after 24 weeks?

          Calling a fetus a child is like calling unbaked batter a cake. It’s not a cake till you bake it and not a child till it’s born – or at the very least until it can survive outside the body.

        3. Castalia2 years ago

          With legal abortion women who would otherwise die in childbirth or pregnancy can survive.

          One of the reason our infant mortality rates have dropped is because of legalized abortion.

          One of the reason fewer women die in childbirth or from complications of pregnancy is because of legalized abortion.

          Most women who get abortions are married and already have one or more children.

          Abortions didn’t begin when they became legal. They have been with us ever since we grew brains large enough to be able to project a consequence of delivering an infant… for instance a negative answer to the question, “how the will I feed it?”

          Abortion won’t go away if they are made illegal. They will just become dangerous and traumatic again.

          Don’t you dare talk about morality and don’t you dare call yourself pro-life. You are only pro fetus.

          Children still have to be delivered, (which costs money) fed (which also costs money), educated (there is that money thing again – and if you say public education is free, you haven’t seen the state and federal bills for it – or raised a kid through the public schools systems). And none of that takes into account the health risks to many women.

          Take the case (yes, a real case) of the 12 year old who was raped by her step father and who died before the fetus could even develop to a stage where it could survive on it’s own. She lived in a country where ALL abortion was illegal and despite the testimony of her doctor that she would not survive, she was denied an abortion. How about the young woman who died during pregnancy because she was not permitted to get an abortion in spite of the fact that her doctor predicted it would happen… and of course the fetus died as well. These are real cases… and there are many, many like this.

          If you don’t like abortion support the biggest preventative of abortion – access to inexpensive birth control and sex education… one of the other functions of Planned Parenthood, by the way.

          If you don’t like abortion get a vascectomy and take responsibilty for your own procreation and don’t leave it up to the woman.

          Because the biggest prevention of abortion is the prevention of conception.

          When men can suffer the health consequences of feeding another being from their own bodies (malnutrition, diabetes, anemia…. to name just a few) and all the things that go along with it – then they will have a viable voice in this conversation. While men may have input on any decision they are directly involved in, the decision is the woman’s with her doctor’s input.

          You don’t own a fetus in a woman’s body – or the body it’s carried in – any more than you have a say in whether she donates her organs to science or to save a life. It’s called “bodily autonomy” – it means a person has a right to say what use their body is put to. It’s why rape is wrong no matter what the circumstances.

          Pregnancy is a damn dangerous thing, and while some women skate through it easily, there are many who don’t fare so well….so unless you are willing for someone to come in and harvest your organs while you are still using them…Pardon me, Gary and Bencher. You don’t know what the Hades you are talking about.

          1. Anonymous1 year ago

            Yes pregnancy is dangerous but in most cases woman can still give birth. Maybe the child will die after it’s born. Maybe it will be sickly, and be affected in some way or another. But it isn’t really your choice to kill the child because of that. It deserves a chance. Your option is to kill it before it is even born. Perhaps you think a fetus isn’t alive but a baby still develops from it. When you kill the fetus you kill a to-be human and that is murder, no two ways about it. Finally, men’s opinion don’t matter according to you. Really? What if the father of a baby can take care of it and is willing to do? Apparently he doesn’t matter under the all sacred banner of women’s rights.

  35. Julian Bell2 years ago

    I am somewhat indifferent on abortion. I am 100% pro-choice, but my indifference comes from the fact that it is a settled issue. We had Roe vs. Wade decades ago, and we should move on. I’m tired of these conservatives who insist on resurrecting this settled issue and keep trying to strip women of their right to their own bodies.

    1. Romans Road2 years ago

      Abortion purposefully kills humans (that is settled). So what isn’t settled? Curious 🙂

  36. Nickkie2 years ago

    Only in one case would I see abortion is the choice is incest rape. That is the only reason I would ever consider it. If I was raped by some guy I’ll never see again I would still keep the child because it is My Child no matter what he/she is still my child.

  37. priyadharshini2 years ago

    Hi Mate,

    I do request you all to gothrough the stats abortion in graphical representation here.,


    1. Anonymous2 years ago

      I like the way you worded that, saying I would, instead of everyone should. I think this is a personal issue, if someone believes that abortion is the best in option in their situation then so be it.

      1. Romans Road2 years ago

        Too bad your “personal decision” killed another human being.

  38. Fred Lowe2 years ago

    Pew Research has a most interesting blog on this subject. I see that the responses are from a wide variety of backgrounds and faith beliefs or none at all. This is what I think:
    1. America is a free country; that is you are free to pursue whatever enterprise or work that is legal within the rights established by the constitution and duly elected governing bodies, from local civic jurisdictions and court systems all the way to the Congress of the United States and the Supreme Court which must make decisions from time to time about what is actually legal in this country. We MUST obey the laws or be put under penal restraint or death until justice is considered done.
    2. The Bible clearly gives each human being the privilege to CHOOSE: 1. whether he or she will obey the requirements of scripture from the Christian Bible consisting of both Old and New Testaments; or 2. NOT to obey the Laws as detailed. The Old Testament scripture, which was a legal document for the young Hebrew nation, depended upon immediate punishment of those things that hindered the community. The punishments ranged from animal sacrifice all the way to death depending upon the nature of the crime. We of the faith community in America say “choose life; choose obedience to GOD’S law.” Joshua chose and stated: “as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.”
    3. The New Testament does not eliminate the Law but gives the lawbreaker an opportunity to “repent” (that is to change or stop the offending behavior) and be forgiven. Regarding abortion I believe that there is much of which to repent not only the act of abortion but many other hurts and crimes that yes even we Christians may find ourselves guilty of. And yes, if we as a people and a nation repent of taking innocent life that too can be forgiven.
    4. Abortion is Legal in the United States of America, I wish it were not. To me it is very sad that the reported number of infants (57,000,000) have had their lives taken from them; even in ONE death of an innocent is difficult to remain silent.
    5. Hypothetically we would talk about a young woman who had gotten “herself into trouble and was expecting (you know what!)” Then it was considered the right thing to do for the father to marry the young woman, be responsible for the outcome and take care of his new family. Of course NOT MANY would DO THAT, but that was considered the ethic about 60 years ago. If the figures that Pew Research reports on how the faithful feel about this issue then I must say that we in the Church have fallen down on our mission to tell the truth about God and how He feels about SIN and what He has done about Sin. Could the abortion story be alleviated if the Church demonstrated Grace to all sin?
    6. In the case of pregnancy resulting from sexual relations outside of wedlock God has only one view: It is a SIN. Sin of any kind whether stealing, murder, lying, anger, profaning the NAME of God, cursing God or another individual. All Sin is worthy of DEATH which is separation from God. Eternal Death, forever in a really awful place we call HELL, where you are not as someone once said, “Holding your breath forever” but are conscious IN a truly awful environment of torture and pain FOREVER. This is not a place I want to visit nor do I want any human being to go there! HELL IS REAL!
    7. There is a way out! IT’S CALLED THE GOOD NEWS! Jesus Christ died for all of the sins of mankind. He Himself, Truly God in the Flesh died for all of us, for we have ALL sinned and fallen short of His glory! Jesus said if you believe in me I will save you from your Sins. One of my very best friends came into this world as the result of the rape of his mother! How many best friends could have been in that huge number reported? C’mon CHURCH! Tell ALL the people the really GOOD NEWS about forgiveness!

  39. Paul J. Dobrowolski2 years ago

    In light of the recent published poll of AAAS scientists and the US public, I would like to recommend that the Pew Research Center poll scientists, especially embryologists, and the American public about when they believe a human life begins. A series of questions can be put forth concerning this issue that would get around the politics and bias that usually accompany his issue.
    My belief is that 100% of embryologists will agree that science supports the fact that a human life truly begins at the moment of conception.
    Thank you.

    1. Tammy England2 years ago

      I believe that also.

  40. James r. Richardson2 years ago

    If a person delivers a baby at 5 months and takes a knife and stabs it, this is murder. But if the same baby is in her uterus it is okay to kill it. I guess it is a question of geography. Sad

    1. Araceli Salazar2 years ago

      why is it ok

  41. Colleen Harper2 years ago

    I would be interested to see a statistical comparison by region of the approval/disapproval of abortion compared side-by-side to comprehensive sex education vs. abstinence-only education, teen pregnancy rates and availability of contraception. These four and the rate of divorce by region, I think, would be quite enlightening. It would reveal greater insights into regional attitudes toward sexuality

  42. mb3 years ago

    It would be interesting if the research reflected the percentages by sex. Do men and women share the same views.

    1. Michael Lipka2 years ago

      Thanks for your comment. Views on abortion by sex and other factors can be seen here: people-press.org/2014/06/12/abor…

      Michael Lipka

  43. t smith3 years ago

    if the anti abortion folks were ALSO anti war, because of the killing they would have a somewhat consistent position; but they are not really concerned about “life”they want to punish women for having sex, by making them have children (that they probably cannot afford) and suffer for the next 20 years raising unwanted children.
    i have lived around these types of people and their intellectual leaders are lying hypocrites,
    the masses are generally stupid and lying to themselves about their real motivations.
    has anyone ever heard these folks wailing over the loss of life in the middle east, or how about in Nigeria the other day(2000 folks) or anywhere else in america from lack of health care or lack of economics??? etc?

  44. Amy P3 years ago

    If only 62% of Americans know the Roe v. Wade is “about abortion,” how many do you think know what it really is? So how valuable is the stat that 63% think it should not be overturned? Many incorrectly think that overturning Roe v. Wade would make abortion illegal. It would not. It would mean that the 1972 supreme court would was in error to declared abortion a constitutionally protected right under the right to privacy. It would then allow states to create common sense abortion legislation based on the vote of the people. It would allow for legal restrictions that are the will of the people based on referendums such as illegalizing late term abortions or beyond which a fetus feels pain. I’m all for it. It was an incorrect judicial decision.

  45. Bill Bohlender3 years ago

    Abortion is killing a baby. Christians believe that there is a God Who revealed himself to us as the Lord Jesus Christ. Killing a baby is murder, which God has prohibited. This is not news, but it has to be reiterated over and over, because so many people do not get it.

    1. tesmith3 years ago

      is this the same god who wrote these rules?
      Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

      Kill Witches

      You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

      Kill Homosexuals
      “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

      Kill Fortunetellers

      A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

      Death for Hitting Dad

      Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

      Death for Cursing Parents

      1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

      2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

      Death for Adultery

      If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

      Death for Fornication

      1. C Smith2 years ago

        Just wow! Thank you for your post.

      2. C Johns2 years ago

        You have to recognized though, most Christians use the King James version of the bible, which has no mention of any of these comments as harsh as said here. It might say “they be damned to hell,” but it does not say put to death. The bible you are using is an incorrectly translated bible according a vast majority of Christian religions.

        1. D Pach2 years ago

          You have to recognize that apparently you don’t even read your own Bible. From the KJV Exodus ch21:

          15. And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

          16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

          17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

      3. Ravis2 years ago

        You might want to reference the New Testament.

      4. Tammy England2 years ago

        These are Old Testament laws. We no longer live under the law but we live under grace. But the laws show just how serious God is about sin. When Jesus came down to earth he took the sins of everyone, past, present and future upon himself and died for all of our sins, then he set us free from the law. All we must do is accept the sacrifice he made out of his love for us. If we believe that he is the son of God and ask him to live in our hearts, then we receive the Holy Spirit who lives in us and gives us guidance and understanding. So we live by grace through faith.

      5. Romans Road2 years ago

        tesmith, he is a God of Justice and Mercy. The same God who said “Love your Enemies” and who, when asked how a stoning should be applied replied that only the sinless could kill the sinner for justice. He saved the life of the adulteress, by taking the punishment the adulter, homosexual, liar, God hater, baby killer upon himself so if they repent and believe they will be saved.

        But if you reject his mercy, you can only bear the justice. Turn from opposing God and loving baby killing; Trust him for your salvation from your sinfulness.

        He will justly destroy those who killed innocent babies, and he will lovingly forgive those murderers who turn to him and trust him with all their hearts!

    2. Cady2 years ago

      It’s not that people don’t get it, it’s that they don’t believe in what you believe. You may think you’re right but you have no proof, and don’t you dare say “The bible is proof enough” no.
      It is the woman’s body, it’s her choice on whether she wants to have an abortion.
      “If you don’t want a child, then put it up for an adoption”
      You see, most women can’t do this because their body is still being affected. They don’t want to go through a process that has a very good percentage of their body being ruined when they won’t even keep the baby. Butt out of peoples privacy honestly this whole debate is just dumb.

    3. Pro-choice2 years ago

      “Abortion is killing a baby” No, abortion is killing a fetus.

  46. Peg3 years ago

    There has always been abortion but when it is illegal women die. There are many reasons why women seek abortions. Should the government be making decisions about families? Where does this desire to control women go…Margaret Atwood told it best.

    1. Anguss2 years ago

      The purpose of government is to make rules to ensure society is civil, i.e. it is illegal to murder. Government intrudes on women’s rights as it does men’s and children’s when it feels it has to in order to maintain a civil society. The real question is how far and how deep does it go? An unborn child also has rights. Calling an unborn a child or fetus or anything does not change what it is. At some point it has a physical heart beating and can feel pain. At what point in the development, should it have the same rights as any other born being? I believe it has a soul from day one, but this is not provable and therefor more arguable. In the back of your mind and in your soul I believe you know the truth.

      1. Leslie Hild1 year ago

        Anguss and all the others on this comment section need to realize that what you believe does not make it a fact. Anguss states that he believes it has a soul from day one, and here in lies the problem. What you believe should not dictate what the law says about abortion. And if you are going to bring up murder as you rebuttal, keep it to your self, it is not a legitimate argument. Murder has to do with people that are alive outside of the womb.

        Limiting a woman’s right to choose what is best for her own body and peace of mind because you want to inflict your personal beliefs on others is ridiculous and damn selfish on your part. We live in a country where we have freedom of religion and that includes my personal right to not have you make decisions about me and my personal choices based on you OPINION, I repeat, your OPINION!

        As an above poster stated, if you don’t want an abortion, then don’t have one. If you think an abortion is killing a soul, then you have every right to feel that way. What you don’t have a right to do is dictate whether I decide to carry an unplanned pregnancy to term (which includes costly doctor visits, prenatal nutrition and vitamins, extreme changes to my body and the psychological strain of carrying a child you did not want to carry) based solely on your opinion and beliefs. If I do not share the same beliefs as you, you should get to decide what I am able to do? I think not,and the US Supreme Court agrees with me. So get off your religious soapbox and stay out of my reproductive decisions.

        If you truly believe you have that right, I am sorry for your self absorption. Maybe you anti abortion people should spend your energy praying to your god to spite me for my sins, and maybe your almighty will answer your prayers. I will be waiting.In the meantime keep your OPINION out of my legal rights.

        Keep your Rosary off my ovaries, and your opinion to your self.

    2. Thomas R2 years ago

      Malta’s maternal mortality rate is significantly lower than ours. Chile’s is only about 20% higher and it’s a less developed nation.

      It’s said that illegal abortions account for something like 15-17% of maternal deaths, I believe, but it might be hard to know if legal abortions would be especially safe in many of those nations. Many to most of the studies done on this matter are by abortion-rights organizations. Neutral studies on the matter are very difficult to find.

      1. Mickey2 years ago

        Considering that in the United States, 20-25% of all the pregnancies in a given year are terminated, I don’t think our lack of abortion is the cause of our high maternal mortality rate.

  47. Marti3 years ago

    It looks like most people in favor of abortion live down south so I think the ones that live in other states should move down there.

  48. eric burns3 years ago

    What’s wrong with true Catholics abstaining from abortions and leaving the people who make their own decisions in peace? Whenever has an atheist forced anyone to do anything?

    1. Romans Road2 years ago

      Killing humans is not a personal choice.

      Abortion is forcing death on another human being.

  49. Virginia3 years ago

    Who is protecting the life of the unborn baby who also has a right to life? Has our society degraded so low that there is no conscience left to see that this is wrong? People can call it a political issue, a religious issue, a personal issue, an economic issue or whatever issue they want but they are all excuses for not having to be responsible. The solution to a life issue is not death. Women who have had an abortion can suffer from Post Abortion Syndrome (PAS) years later so this is a very serious matter for baby and mother. Have we heard so much about personal “rights” that we have totally forgotten about a whole population (57,000,000 have been aborted since Roe v Wade) of children who have been murdered? My heart goes out to the women who suffer from PAS as they didn’t know it would happen. It isn’t over that one fateful day in the abortionist office, there are consequences years later. So people can make excuses to justify taking the life of a baby by saying it would amount to anything anyway but shame on all of us for accepting that as some sort of justification in an effort to play God.

  50. betina3 years ago

    I do not feel that any religious group should have an impact or voice on this issue. A religious group does not have a legal vote, nor should any religious group’s beliefs govern the entire population. There are many non religious, and non-Christian people in the USA and they should not have their rights infringed or limited by any religious group. Also the only people who should be able to vote on this issue are women, as they are the ONLY ones impacted. Men cannot get pregnant and therefore they should not have a voice in this matter. Whether a woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy should be her decision and not limited by any government entity. The government has no right or reason to limit a woman’s choice. Presently the right wing Christian men in politics are waging a war on women and women’s rights and it must stop. Every child born should be a wanted child, and a child that is given a chance at a better life. If a potential mother knows that she cannot provide for a child she should have the choice to terminate the pregnancy. Women that are rape victims or incest survivors should not be denied the opportunity to choose. They should not be forced to carry and raise the child of her attacker. That is a horrid and destructive form of mental and emotional torture to relive your attack every time you look at your own child. We should not be forced to continue to fight for a right that was won almost 45 years ago. We should be moving on to current issues like climate change and renewable energy. Stop allowing conservatives to force their beliefs on the general population. If you don’t want an abortion, then don’t have one. Don’t think for a second that your personal choice gives you the right to decide what my choice will be. You don’t know my personal circumstances and you are NOT qualified to choose for me.

  51. Edd Doerr3 years ago

    Religious right opposition to freedom of choice on abortion must be based on patriarchalism or misogyny, as it is not based on the Bible, which does not condemn abortion. Indeed, what the Bible does say (Gen 1:27 and 2:7) is that humans were created “in the image of God”. As “God” is not flesh and blood and DNA, and personhood begins at birth, this jibes with what we know from science, that the brain is not wired up for consciousness until sometime after 28-32 weeks of gestation. About 90% of abortions are performed by 13 weeks, 99% by 20 weeks, and the remainder only for serious medical reasons. If Republicans and conservatives decry big government, it is strange that they would want to expand Big Brother government to have the power to restrict the religious freedom and rights of conscience of women. — Edd Doerr (arlinc.org)

    1. Mick2 years ago

      I don’t see how wanting to protect the life of a human is patriarchal in any way. The right to life supersedes the right to do as you please. And don’t tell me “but you don’t care about it after it’s born” , because I do, an awful lot.

      And for the record, this is a fetus at 20 weeks (not graphic)

      I don’t understand how you could not consider that a human being. Why do you consider birth so special that a few minutes before birth you could technically terminate it, but after birth it’s suddenly a person. The organism that is growing and developing after birth is the same organism that was growing and developing before birth. A fetus is a state of developement, just like baby, toddler, teen,etc. It is not some non-human creature.

      And no, I am not religious, I disagree with bible thumpers in many ways, but not on this issue.

    2. Romans Road2 years ago

      Secularism is upheld by mass killings like Mao Zedong’s 60,000,000 and the countless millions murdered by abortion.

  52. sammieb513 years ago

    Were the respondents to this poll asked if they had abortions, knew anyone who did and what their race was? I wonder because it seems to me that LOTS of women, married and single, who get pregnant “accidentally” in their 40’s, select abortion over having another child. I know several who have made this choice, with their spouses right next to them. They were white, upwardly mobile folks.

    I also wonder how racial and economics factor into abortions. I think we would all be surprised to find out that minorities are not the ones flocking to the clinics for this procedure.

    1. Maryhelen3 years ago

      This report is only about whether people are for or against the law on abortion and not who has abortion and also not who is Catholic or any other religion.

  53. betina3 years ago

    I do not feel that any religious group should have an impact or voice on this issue. A religious group does not have a legal vote, nor should any religious group’s beliefs govern the entire population. There are many non religious, and non-Christian people in the USA and they should not have their rights infringed or limited by any religious group. Also the only people who should be able to vote on this issue are women, as they are the ONLY ones impacted. Men cannot get pregnant and therefore they should not have a voice in this matter. Whether a woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy should be her decision and not limited by any government entity. The government has no right or reason to limit a woman’s choice. Presently the right wing Christian men in politics are waging a war on women and women’s rights and it must stop. Every child born should be a wanted child, and a child that is given a chance at a better life. If a potential mother knows that she cannot provide for a child she should have the choice to terminate the pregnancy. Women that are rape victims or incest survivors should not be denied the opportunity to choose. They should not be forced to carry and raise the child of her attacker. That is a horid and destructive form of mental and emotional torture to relive your attack every time you look at your own child. We should not be forced to continue to fight for a right that was won 45 years ago. We should be moving on to current issues like climate change and renewable energy. Stop allowing conservatives to force their beliefs on the general population. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t have one. Don’t think for a second that your personal choice gives you the right to decide what my choice will be.

    1. Romans Road2 years ago

      I do not feel that “Planned Parenthood” should have any voice in this because they don’t have a vote. Their religion of death should be banished.

    2. Anonymous1 year ago

      Thank you.

  54. vicki3 years ago

    I can’t imagine any rational thinking person that would not understand a embryo is living and until it is disturbed by an abortionist; it will grow to be come a human life. Killing it is murder. It does not matter if it is one week or sixty years; a sperm and egg fertilized and growing is still a human being. What is done to it is the same outcome…common sense. Therefore, in our terms today, it IS murder when you kill it.

    1. Maryhelen3 years ago

      That is exactly what a rational human thing person understands because that is science; thus, it is the emotional, righteous, religious unscientific, and irrational thinking persons who say an embryo is a person.

      1. Romans Road2 years ago

        Maryhelen… your philosophical view on what a “person” is, is not any more valid than the Dred Scott view of personhood. What matters is that abortion is the killing of a human being.

  55. Gene Morton3 years ago

    Thank you for the data. There is another bit that would be enlightening. How many times has legislation been introduced into the US Congress, and by whom, and what is its status today. While there seems to be a lot of lip service to controlling or eliminating abortions, there seem to be few actions in Congress about doing something about it.

  56. Skeptic3 years ago

    I am always skeptical about tables that show that certain religious groups are more or less supportive of the pro-choice or pro-life position. For instance, 53% of Catholics consider abortion to be morally wrong. However, this figure hides a great deal of heterogeneity in the degree to which individuals who identify themselves as “Catholic” are active in their faith and adhere to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Among high church-attending Catholics, the “abortion is immoral” percentage is much higher. For those identifying themselves as Catholic but who rarely or never participate in the life of the Catholic Church, the “abortion is immoral” percentage is much lower. This suggests that identification with one denomination/tradition or another is far less important than religiosity or doctrinal belief.

    1. Ray3 years ago

      You are entitled to your skepticism; so are Catholics who are less doctrinaire than your version of the ideal catholic.

    2. Romans Road2 years ago

      Abortion is the killing of a human.

  57. Ken3 years ago

    When did an embryo or even a fetus become a “baby”?
    How many women’s lives have been saved by not being forced by culture or society to go through child birth?

    1. Anguss2 years ago

      How many children/human lives were denied by civil society allowing abortions?

    2. SciGuy22 years ago

      Is not a caterpillar a butterfly in the making? It’s human perception that “draws the line”, not science. DNA unfolding” is not the same as crystal formation. HMmmm…

      1. Anonymous6 months ago

        “in the making” is important. By your own language you prove the point that a fetus or potential person is not the equivalent of a person. We don’t look at a caterpillar and say “butterfly” nor do we look at the eggs that a hen is sitting on and say “chicks” we have words that distinguish. You are mourning the loss of all these “innocent” babies, but would you hesitate to execute them if they killed someone? Would you feel badly if they were drug dealers or dangerous addicts robbing and stealing? Would it make you feel better to allow them to come into the world, wreak their havoc on society, and then we jail or execute them? Because actually that’s what a good proportion of those unwanted babies would become. Children who are not wanted, who are born into poverty and unstable families are more likely to become criminals. “low-income youths are more likely to engage in violent and property crimes than are youths from middle- and highincome families.” — from the brookings institute.

    3. Thomas R2 years ago

      Umm, pretty much every time it’s not aborted or miscarried a fetus becomes a baby. Even if you’re pro-choice that’s just how it works. It develops into a baby.

      As for women’s lives South Africa did see a decline in maternal mortality on adopting looser abortion laws. However Poland also saw a decline in maternal mortality after adopting stricter abortion laws post-Communism. (Look it up if you doubt it)

    4. Tammy England2 years ago

      If you dont know when a fetus or an embryo becomes a baby, then you shouldn’t kill it. The time to think about these things is before you get pregnant.You mentioned that the babys’ mother wouldn’t have to go through childbirth. You also stated how many women’s lives were saved by these women having abortions. But how many babies lost their lives because the mothers had abortions? The answer to that would be All of them.

    5. Romans Road2 years ago

      You ask,

      “How many women’s lives have been saved by not being forced by culture or society to go through child birth?”


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  59. Ruth Walker3 years ago

    There has always been abortion. When it was illegal, it killed women and/or left them sterile. Most abortions are early, but some have to be late to save the health/life of the mother, who sometimes has other children to care for. What sort of people think they should decide such things or anyone but themselves?

    Reading ‘This Common Secret: My Journey as an Abortion Doctor’ by Susan Wicklund can help develop empathy. Dr. Wicklund had not even planned to be a physician, let alone an abortion doctor (and couldn’t bear to even watch a late term one, but knows they are sometimes necessary).

    1. E Powell3 years ago

      Reasons given for having abortions in the United States

      … but at the same time most Americans would support limits on elective abortions, e.g.abortions for convenience … 5 Sept. 2011, “Historical abortion statistics …
      Only 2 % of abortion are for anything but convenience.

      1. betina3 years ago

        I sincerely doubt your so called stats are anywhere near the truth. The 2% figure is absolutely ludicrous. Who Johnston? Why should we believe them? Is Johnston another religious based entity/source? Lets not forget the women that cannot afford to raise a child alone. Women still only make about 70 cents on the dollar compared to men. Also many men leave when they find out their wife or girlfriend is pregnant. Lets not forget the fact that we have a over population problem. Your god does not dictate the laws of man. The USA was founded on freedom OF religion, not a Christian god. Read some history on the founding fathers and you will see that I am right. Keep your god out of USA politics and government!

        1. Thomas R2 years ago

          Guttmacher also indicates most abortions, I believe even in the second trimester, are for economic reasons and it’s a respected Pro-Choice source.

          “The most common subreason given was that the woman
          could not afford a baby now because she was unmarried

          One of the reasons “Can’t afford a baby now 73%”

          Health represented more like 12-13% according to them though. This is about the same as “Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion” at 14%.


        2. Mick2 years ago

          Your 70 cents for every dollar reference undermines your entire argument, rational people understand that to be a deceiving statistic.

          Anyway, the man did not once mention religion, it wasn’t even implied, yet you decide to attack him under the presumption that he’s trying to force religion upon you. I agree with you though, religion should be kept far away from politics, Many religious people are pro-life, and sadly use religion to support the cause, but it is not a religious issue. It is instead an issue of whether the state of development (just like baby,toddler,teen,etc) known as a fetus is any less human than everyone else.

          Yes I know the world sucks, with scumbag dads abandoning their wives and whatnot, but that’s no excuse for this sort of stuff. I’m sure there are some single mothers out there that would like to smother their crying 2 year old to death, but we don’t allow that.

    2. Gisele Toumi3 years ago

      It’s flawed to say since people do something, it should be legal. Humans have been murdering since the beginning of time, but we shouldn’t legalize murder. The fact is that a fetus is a human being, and abortion is violent. It’s not like an early c-section or early birth/removal. Abortion is poisoning and dismembering another human being. I’m shocked that so many people think this should be allowed and accepted.

      1. Jay3 years ago

        You have quite the twisted view of aborting a fetus. Good thing such a view is an individual’s opinion and not up to the law to decide, hmm?

        1. Ginny3 years ago

          It’s too bad someone’s concern for the life of a baby is viewed as being twisted. Aborting a fetus unto itself is brutal. Anytime you kill it is brutal and like it or not that is a baby being ripped from the mother’s womb. I am amazed how over 57 millions babies have been aborted since Roe v Wade, most out of convenience, that there is so much focus on finding the exceptions trying to make it all okay. If we have any sort of moral conscience left in this country we would acknowledge that wrong is wrong and fix it.

      2. Hereward Pooley3 years ago

        I can’t understand why people who oppose early abortion do not also oppose contraception.

        1. eagle3 years ago

          there is a vital difference–before / after Fertilization.

      3. Maryhelen3 years ago

        I am shocked that all those who would force a women to have children they don’t want are so totally righteous, but insensitive, uncaring and no compassion for the many children who are born unwanted. Just look at child welfare and see all the babies and even grown children that were born to parent who didn’t want them. These are the same people who would then say the parents are , don’t want children don’t have them, so they end up poor, uncared for, and miserable. No connection there, duh

      4. Kathy Walker3 years ago

        How can anyone say that abortion is wrong because murder should not be legal , or that it’s poisoning another human being . Well isn’t that what our death penalty is ,when they manage to get it right and actually kill an inmate who may or may not be guilty. This is an actual grown human being enduring the suffering ,not a fetus who isn’t mature enough to feel what an adult feels. And abortion is not dismembering a fetus who can’t survive on it’s own. However, if our country brings back the firing squad , that would constitute dismemberment. I hate to think of life without a choice for a pregnant girl or woman.

        1. Ashley2 years ago

          False. That murderer made the choice to murder knowing the potential consequence of execution. Unborn children are having their choices (every choice they could have ever made) stripped from them.

    3. Aaron B.3 years ago

      what sort of people think they should decide things for anyone but themselves? I guess the kind of people who have their children murdered because having those children would be inconvenient at this point in their lives would fall into that category. they are deciding the issue of life or death for someone besides themselves, so there is a prime example of the type of people you were asking about.

    4. Romans Road2 years ago

      Whether legal or illegal a successful abortion always kills someone.

  60. Jenna Jackson3 years ago

    I dont even understand how someone could actually do this to a poor baby. A popular saying is “My Body My Rules”. Well think of a baby in a situation like this. Their’s would probably be “My Body No Rules” or something like that. The point i am trying to get to is that abortion should be banned.

  61. louise horan3 years ago

    I think abortion should be banned because you have got to think about the poor baby’s life that you are just about to end it, when it will be entered in the new world very soon. If you abortion a baby you should be prosecuted ans sent to prison for 45 yrs of your life.

  62. Bill Bryan3 years ago

    ABORTION STATS: HIGHLY SUSPECT! Lots of lying by women obtaining
    abortions—especially by Catholics and Evangelicals—who most probably
    have much higher abortion rates due to their strictures against using any
    form of Birth Control.

    “The use of ONE Birth Control Pill or Condom is the Moral Equivalent of
    ONE ABORTION,” said Father Bruce Ritter, US spokesman for the Vatican on
    issues like abortion. The message being: USING BIRTH CONTROL PILLS
    IS THE MORAL EQUIVALENT OF MURDER—So says the Catholic Church
    and other leaders of Conservative Christian groups. Anyway:

    My 1st wife accidently became employed by The Midtown Hospital—an abortion
    mill in Atlanta, GA, which for years was one of the few places 2nd and 3rd Trimester
    could be performed in SE US.

    Every client was given a form where they could voluntarily enter various Demographic
    questions: One being: Religious Faith…………………..

    About half of the Abortion Clients would not fill out the form. Of the ones who
    did: About 80% Identified themselves as Catholic or Conservative Christian whose
    leaders opposed all forms of non-violent birth control methods—except the
    Rhythm Method. Assumptions were made that the vast number of non-Respondents
    were probably Catholic or Conservative Christian.

    This was emphasized by the fact that most of the non-Respondents would come
    in year after year to have abortion after abortion and would still not fill out the
    Demographic Form.

    1. K Brown3 years ago

      it’s scriptures

  63. TJ Krest3 years ago

    What if Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Edi Amin, the men who flew the airplanes into the Towers and on and on, were aborted? Would that be a good thing?
    I think if all you protesters who spend time on being anti abortion, spent time caring for all the starving, abused, homeless children in the world, We might pay a little more attention to you. But that ain’t going to happen because that would be to socialistic and goodness knows you would not want to get your hands dirty touching all those unclean things.

    1. Nahman3 years ago

      That’s not the point, the point is at the very second a fetus is formed, it is a living baby. An abortion is the killing of an innocent child. If they are unable to care for it, at least adoption would be an option here….

      1. Niky3 years ago

        Nahman…I really agree with your opinion.

      2. betina3 years ago

        TJ Crest makes a better point. Who will feed, clothe, and raise all of those unwanted children? Nahman are you volunteering to do it?

      3. DrT Happy3 years ago

        Well I really think you should adopt all those babies and care for them. I am up f or you to do that rather than abort. So step up there Nahman and Niky. Put your views into action. All against abortion adopt at the clinics and hospitals. Step up. If you adopt each one, no more abortions. Your problem is solved. And we know you will not do that. You would rather force people, who don’t want to produce a baby, to to “adopt”. And they don’t want to “adopt”. So it is up to you.
        And as was said above, It has been going on since humans began and will continue. Humans kill and turn their backs on other humans. Religion, race, belief system, Humans kill.

  64. Barbara3 years ago

    The global population has soared past 7 billion. Over population is degrading our quality of life and depleting the precious natural resources we all need to survive and thrive. To address the population crisis, it is essential to provide comprehensive reproductive health care to all US and world citizens. This will greatly decrease the need for abortions. Until this is accomplished, abortion should be an available option.

    1. Selfish3 years ago

      Your view and the view of people like you, says that: Killing in abortion should be available, because you are worried about degrading your quality of life.

      Why don’t you be a little bit less selfish, and be willing to take a more simple quality of life, if it becomes necessary (which it probably never will), in order to help everyone to have a life, rather than death because some don’t want to lower their quality of life, for the sake of saving someone else’s life or helping someone else’s life to exist.

      1. louise horan3 years ago

        Your absolutely right I agree on your opinion

      2. betina3 years ago

        Dear Selfish,
        You are the one that is being selfish to think that your choices should rule or dictate another persons life. You need to pray on this and realize that you don’t have the right to make decisions for another person. You cannot play god and you clearly don’t have the tools for the job.

    2. Choice for Reproductive rights?3 years ago

      By the way. The Pro abortion minority label abortion as reproductive rights.
      And Overpopulation people, claim that people should have the right to reproductive health care (contraception and abortion), in order to choose how many children to have in their reproduction.
      But if this is truly a choice, and a right to reproduce.
      Then what are you going to say when everyone decides they do want to have children? And that the reproduction is higher than the pro abortion people like. And it leads to a bigger population? Then what are you going to do, when people use their freedom of reproduction to have children and for the world population to keep getting bigger?

      You don’t care about people’s freedoms or their rights to reproduce. No. If that happened, you would order that there should be a forced limit on reproduction. Like the one child policy that famously exists in China.

      Some anti reproduction people, have said that there should be a forced no child policy. Which denies anyone the right to reproduce at all.

      Reproductive rights only means the right to have children. It was written into international agreements decades ago, and the term reproductive rights was specifically stated as being about the right to choose to have children.
      And it was against the policies of forced sterilisation and forced abortion which had happened to some minority groups of people in america, and some other countries, to deny people their right to reproduce.
      And it specifically said, it does not include abortion as a reproductive right. Because abortion is not about reproducing, but about not reproducing. And abortion kills a life, and so it is against the right to life.

      People who talk about overpopulation only care about that they don’t want people to live. They don’t care about life. Therefore, when people choose to reproduce, as is the true and only meaning of reproductive rights. Then the population will continue to increase. Which is not a problem! There is no problem with humans existing. The only problem is with the people who think other people don’t have the right to live, and want to kill the human race, until it reaches some made up number, chosen by people, none of who have no right to be a judge of life and death anyway!

      Today you talk about abortion. Tomorrow you will be declaring that if the people have more children than you like, forced abortion and forced prevention of people choosing the right to reproduce, should be forced on people by the state. As already happened in the past in many countries, and currently in some. And as the international human rights laws, and reproductive rights laws, were written to protect life, and prevent this forced denial of right to reproduce, and forced population reduction, and forced propaganda campaigns to promote abortion and force it if people don’t choose to stop reproducing.

      1. Rob Mac3 years ago

        That was an amazing(ly long-winded) attempt at a strawman. You almost had me convinced.

      2. Hereward Pooley3 years ago

        At the start of your article you say “The Pro abortion minority”. If you looked at the Pew research article above you would see that people who are “The Pro abortion” are actually in the majority and have been for some time.

        1. Anonymous1 year ago

          Depends on how you define pro abortion. I don’t like abortion, but I understand that it should be used in some cases where the mother might die from giving birth. I’m sure many people put up with abortion because of that, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they approve of it.

    3. betina3 years ago

      Barbara, you are absolutely right. You made very good points and I like that you brought up that Pro Choice is actually the majority even according to the conservative’s published stats. The right wing needs to stop trying to control everyone. Take care of yourself and stop trying to “play god” for everyone else.

    4. Romans Road2 years ago

      Barbara: “kill people to deal with overpopulation” effectively. Sad you feel that way.

  65. Bryan Barrett3 years ago

    That any person needs to ask, “how many abortions since Roe Vs Wade decision’, is shocking; since 1973 abortions have resulted in the death of more than 57,000.000 Americans. Think about it; children denied the opportunity to experience life. You, the reader has that opportunity, yet you, by your silence , denied it to these innocent children.

    1. Kathy Kennedy3 years ago

      Denied life to innocent children? All I can think of is 57,000,000 unwanted children being abused, unloved, or born to live in physical and psychological pain. Why would you wish that on anyone? Abortion rights in many instances simply facilitate compassion.

      1. Think3 years ago

        So what you are saying is, it is better to kill someone who is unwanted, or who you think in the future might be abused, or poor, or has any negative experience in life (which is every human).

        Even though you don’t know what will happen to a child after it is born, or if it will be wanted by the mother if she kept it until birth, or if it will have adoptive parents who give it a good life.

        Humans don’t know the future. And yet you would like to justify killing someone, based the idea that “you” don’t like the idea of the future you predict for it. When it is not even your life but their’s! And that you can’t know how that future will turn out.
        And regardless that the child is not to blame for existing, but you would like to kill it, for the life it has without any control of it’s own.

        Then you can think about the human beings alive in the world today, who are unwanted or unloved by others, or abused, or poor, or having negative experiences.
        If you would kill them in the womb to avoid the life they have, then there is no difference between killing them now, to stop them continuing to live more of that life. Which you think it is better to kill to prevent them from living, than let them live. And to value their life. And perhaps to treat them like a human being, instead of like a burden. And perhaps care and help get them the help to have a better life.
        If you don’t want to care and help people, then don’t care and don’t help.
        But let them have their life. Don’t kill because you don’t want to care or help.

      2. E Powell3 years ago

        “unwanted,abused” Margaret Sanger would be very proud of your statement.
        Abortion is really Murder, 55.5 million babies, their blood is on our hands.
        More then Chairman Mao of China. More then stalin, hitler, pol pot, ide amine, etc.
        We still are murdering about 1 million a year.

        the United State of Amerika, murdering our babies since 1973.

  66. Elfriede Moore3 years ago

    Abortion should be a personal choice for women and have no place in court decisions.

  67. John Balird3 years ago

    I am convinced that none of the people indicating an opinion on abortion have any idea of the fact that Earth is overpopulated by about 4.5 BILLION people. So none have any idea of the penalties that will be paid as civilization is forced to correct this deficit load on Earth’s life support system.

    So media polls this uninformed population instead of educating it.

    Civilization deserves what is happening to it.

    1. John Balird3 years ago

      The Pew comment policy is just another element of the reason that civilization deserves what is happening to it

    2. You want to kill 4.5 billion people?3 years ago

      You want to kill 4.5 billion people?

      Exactly when would you offer up your life, before the life of the others who you expect to justify killing the live of?

      Sorry that is exactly why I am pro life. Because I have a conscience, and a sense of morality, and I value human life. I value every human life, not just my own life, and there is no human life whose life doesn’t have value and doesn’t have the right to life.

      Every life has the right to live, and every human who is living with the right to life themselves, and who wouldn’t want it taken away, should be pro life.

      Because the alternative is the desired world of the people who do not value human life, reminiscent of every murderer, and so they would even justify all kinds of murder, starting from abortion, and then euthanasia for elderly and weak, and then war and murder of other’s that the murderer doesn’t value the life of.

    3. Amanda Polk3 years ago

      Over populated based on whose data? I could be wrong but I do not recall the Bible saying the Earth could only sustain X number of people. I believe that God created the earth and commanded his people to reproduce so that is what they do. Further, I would also argue that we keep researching cures for multiple dieses and I can’t help but to think that we have probably killed the child that was sent to earth to cure cancer, aids etc. God creates everyone with a purpose and we have no right to terminate a life that he created. In respect to helping the hungry and abused, I have dedicated my life to that very population and I might add that in the worst cases of abuse, I’ve never felt that a child would have been better off if he/she were aborted. The flip side is that many loving parents who want children and have reproductive issues would love to provide a loving and nurturing home to these “unwanted children”. At the end of the day, we all have to make our own decisions and we shall bare the fruits of those decisions be it good fruit our bad fruit. We will definitely bare the fruit.

    4. overpopulated3 years ago

      Overpopulated? Where do you get your facts from last time I checked there’s plenty of room on Earth.

  68. Sue3 years ago

    What is the average age of a woman getting an abortion? Average income? Any demographics? Use of contraception? Lots of questions.

  69. Jack3 years ago

    Since Roe vs Wade, how many abortions per year and in total?

  70. Ron3 years ago

    Interesting that an event called “March for Life” is characterized as “the annual anti-abortion” event.
    Why not use “pro-life”?
    Well, because words are weapons, and rhetoric is thought to be powerful.
    It isn’t.

  71. Mrs Rev Tom3 years ago

    Abortion is a horribly painful choice to make. Women who WANT abortions will still get them, like they always have, legal or not…either in another country (for the wealthy) or in dirty back alley apartments. With all the govt money spent on stupid stuff, why can’t women (and men) have access to convenient, affordable birth control that doesn’t have health side effects? Morality aside, spontaneous passion or the heat of the moment decisions don’t allow much choice for women…if their man lies about having had a vasectomy or if a condom breaks…it is still the woman who is left with that horrible choice to make about her own life and the life of an innocent result of an accidental pregnancy.

  72. See Abortion and Euthanasia. – Think Eugenics and Extermination of the most poor, vulnerable, and unwanted classes3 years ago

    See Abortion and Euthanasia promoted, with an intention of the majority of it’s subjects or victims, being the poor and vulnerable and the most unwanted of society. And think of Eugenics.

    That is to say –

    – Think of hitler killing the jews, gays, gypsies, and other unwanted of society.

    – Think of margaret sanger in the USA, creating the nazi inspired eugenics and abortion and sterilization programs in america, to kill the poor and vulnerable classes, who were also mainly the black and hispanic ethnic minorities.

    – Think of the intentional mass reduction of whole classes or sections of society, primarily targeted at the poor and vulnerable and those “unwanted” by the rich and selfish classes of society. By promoting their destruction by abortion and euthanasia.

    The poor, vulnerable, and those “unwanted” by the rich and selfish of society, should be the ones who are most protected by a civilized society. A society which cares about human beings. They should not be the ones most targeted for encouraging their elimination by abortion and euthanasia.

    A human and loving society protects and cares for those who are most vulnerable and most unwanted.
    An animalistic eugenic society, wants to kill off and reduce the descendants of those who are most vulnerable and most unwanted.

    1. Ron3 years ago

      If you really want to worry, think of the fact that there are more than 7 billion people in this world and the numbers are growing. Realize the earth is a finite place and each year we are using up more and more of the earth’s natural resources. Think of the fact that robots are replacing humans in many tasks that human used to do. I do NOT have an answer of what to do, BUT it would make me smile if our government as well as other governments would realize this and start thinking about how to address disaster in waiting before it.s too late

      1. Finite resources may be finite, but will never be so finite that humans will die because of lack of resources. Unless it is because humans are not sharing the available resources.3 years ago

        There is no reason to think any of those things are a problem.

        The only reason people think it is a problem, is because the eugenics movement, who wants to reduce the population of the poor and undesirables, by preventing birth, and killing those who are born, have said that it is a problem.

        So they encourage people to fear it, and to support abortion and euthanasia to kill the weak.

        And they encourage people to fear pregnancy and so to use birth control and sterilisation, and to encourage people to be obsessed by sex for pleasure so to think of sex only for pleasure, and think of reproduction as something less wanted because it gets in the way of this pleasure. Therefore reducing reproduction again.

        The idea that there would ever not be resources to support the population is false. And even if it had been true, it would be the act of an insane person to say to kill the existing people, or people newly conceived or born, in order to stop people dying from lack of resources.

        It is like saying, we do not have enough food for both of us to live for one month, so one of us should be killed. No, that is not human. If there is not enough food, then ration it. And then, share the food, and let each eat, until it runs out. Each human has an equal right to live as eachother. Don’t kill people off, so that others can keep eating.
        And there is more than enough food in the world for everyone, if people made the effort to share it around. And also don’t be greedy and eat more than you need.
        And the rich use so many more times food, and every other resources than the poorest.
        Killing off the poor makes very little difference to resources, because it is the rich who use many times more resources than the poor. So why are the rich seeking to kill the poor, when some of the poor use for example barely a tenth of the rich?
        Kill ten poor, so there can be one more rich? Is that fair?
        No, make the one rich, be a little less greedy, and to live a little more modestly, and then everyone can live instead of be killed, and can live more equally.

        1. Ron3 years ago

          When I was young & went to school in the 1930’s the estimated world population was 3 billion plus and the U.S. was about 130 million. In about 80 years both these numbers have more than doubled.

          I wrote my comment because I DO NOT want to kill people off and I do not have a ready solution. In past centuries population was controlled by large uncontrolled plagues and large wars which killed millions. I did rule out that plagues & wars, they’re terrible solutions, BUT WHAT

          When we run out of petroleum, we will have to grow the fuel [we have this ability right now] but it will reduce the amount of food we can grow.

          Just take a look, do you or does anyone think the world by the year 2450 or 2500 the way we humans manage or NOT manage the world problem, will still exist anywhere near the way it is now.

          We do not address world warming, we do not prepare for the time that we can not get fuel out of the earth, we’ve expanded life spans and do little about worldwide housing for its large population.

          We have had amazing inventions, but also invented a lot of junk. The combined intellect of all human beings is large enough to figure this out . the only question is when are we going to get started ?

          1. Stephen O’Brien3 years ago

            Malthus proposed a similar theory a couple of centuries ago. Since then the population has grown substantially, and living standards for much of the population has improved dramatically. Two factors have helped. First a free market has helped much of the world use their resources more widely, and second, human productivity has increased dramatically. The doomsday scenario of overpopulation is not impossible, but seems highly unlikely for the foreseeable future.

    2. sammieb513 years ago

      Your facts are wrong — the majority of abortions go to white folks, coming from middle to upper class families. They are not going to minorities as is commonly represented (neither are food stamps or disability — it goes to mostly white folks). LOTS of women in their 40’s get abortions, married or single, with their spouse and/or partner standing next to them. In fact it could be said that the reason pasty old white men promote pro-life is simply a matter voting demographics — not enough white babies being born to middle-upper class families. In short, they are losing their voting block.

      1. tesmith3 years ago

        whoops, THERE IT IS!!!!!
        you hit the nail right on the head along with the fact that inter ethnic marriages are increasing, even to the despised Black minority. and genetically speaking, blonde eves and blue hair are recessive compared to brown eyes and brown / black skin

  73. Troy Jones4 years ago

    I favor legal taxpayer supported abortion for all women during the first three months of pregnancy, especially if they are not married. An early abortion is much less of a burden
    to taxpayers than supporting an unwanted child after it is born or putting it in prison
    after a careless upbringing.

    1. Greed and Injustice3 years ago

      Human life is worth more than money.
      If you think human lives should be killed, for the reason of saving the state some money. Then you are a truly greedy person. And that is exactly why abortion is being promoted, because of other greedy people who have the power in governments and in pro abortion organisations, who spend taxpayer money to fund the abortion organisations, and to fund organisations that promote abortion with propaganda.
      Because of greedy governments who want to cut their bills on helping the poor, to make the rich more rich. Instead of spending whatever is necessary to help the poor and protect life and wellbeing, the government gives even more, to help kill the poor!
      If a person is poor and the unwanted of society, then help them, don’t kill them. Are we human who will value and protect human life? or are we animals who only kill the weak?
      God made us human, and made us to help eachother to live. And we will each be repaid for how we help or do not help other people, especially the weakest.
      What makes a person only want to kill a person rather than help a person? Is it that they lost their humanity and made themselves lowered to be more like an animal instead of a human?
      If a society kills it’s weak, rather than help them, then the society has given up it’s humanity and given up it’s right to exist. If it doesn’t let the weak exist, without trying to promote policies to kill them off, then why should the society responsible for this have a right to exist?

  74. Troy Jones4 years ago

    Personally, I believe that a person has a right to privacy above almost all other things.
    I also believe a person should not have to pay for something someone else did out of
    carelessness or convenience, I am a tax payer and therefore believe taxes should not pay for abortions. I also believe that the use of illegal drugs should not be a burden to the taxpayer. So…the message to drug users should be that it negates their right to taxpayer
    supported medical care. I would like to see more bad habits eliminated from taxpayer
    supported medical care, but some lines are very hard to draw and enforce …and therefore
    enforcement may cost more than providing the medical care with tax money. Among these
    are riding motor cycles, eating too much of obviously ‘wrong’ food, etc.

    1. Dusty3 years ago

      I am a taxpayer also and I help to create the wealth that all the “pencil pushers” live off of. Do you make a difference by actually doing something? Or are you another layer of “management” that is unnecessary and just a burden yourself. There are two sides to every story. This post is about taxpayer funded abortion not a judgment of other people.

  75. Joan4 years ago

    Why was my comment not printed?

  76. Darlene Clements4 years ago

    Let me assure you that if men were the ones who got pregnant and bore children Abortiion would be considered a sacrament and adequate contraception methods would be mandatory and provided by the Government.

    1. Anonymous1 year ago

      Sure and pigs would fly.

  77. RICHARD D. STACY4 years ago

    These percentage numbers would radically change if there was a larger spectra of safe, affordable oral contraceptives available. Presently, there is just one for women and none for men.

  78. KR4 years ago

    This is not a political issue — “period”. Drinking and drug use at some level is legal. Assisted suicide for those with a short time to live is being put forward and will likely become part of every day life (eh hem). Philosophically, what is the difference?

    I suggest we outlaw sex. If you outlaw sex, then you won’t have any unwanted pregnancies. If you don’t have any unwanted pregnancies, you won’t have families agonizing over what their 16 year old child will do with their life. If you don’t have to agonize over your 16 year old child going to college and raising a young child on welfare, or have the parents support the next generation too, then you won’t have grand parents supporting grand kids. If you don’t have grand parents supporting grand kids, you will have grand parents that don’t need to work as long and will be able to retire more comfortably (since their pensions were decimated…another rant). If you have grand parents that can comfortably retire, you will have an ever aging population that is happier to not support the younger more complacent youth. If you have younger more complacent youth, then everyone will relax and have fun during their lives. So, stop having so much fun and outlaw sex. That will solve the problem. Worry about the things in your life you can control and stop worrying about controlling others. Politics is not the solution. Duh!

  79. Patrick Venton4 years ago

    Most state lines are not too far away , or international boarders can be readily accessed, making abortion not to difficult to achieve. The nitty make up of the polarised groups are given to much hay and the media / press make sure the polarised positions and their extreme positions are dramatised to sell copy. Kind of a pissing contest continuum .

    1. Williams Katherine4 years ago

      “Most state lines are not too far away , or international boarders can be readily accessed, making abortion not to difficult to achieve.”

      Tell that to a woman living in the middle of Texas, who doesn’t own a car and can’t afford a bus ticket. Tell that to a woman living in Africa, whose nearest access to ANY medical attention is hundred miles away. You’re perception of the availability of abortion is, at best, inaccurate.

      The poorest humans on the planet (and in this country) have the least access to adequate birth control and abortion, have the least access to reliable obstetrics, and have the highest maternal mortality rates. In New York in 2013, 10 in 100,000 Caucasian woman died from child birth or pregnancy, 79 in 100,000 African-American women died.

      The notion that this is a non-issue, is an insult to the hundreds of thousands of women dying, without access to proper medical care, and pregnancy prevention – and to the families they leave behind.

      1. Al Devault4 years ago

        Let’s separate “proper medical care” from “abortion on demand’ because they are two totally different issues. Medical care borders on being a “right.” Abortion on demand is a choice, basically one that is used to avoid responsibility. It is disingenuous to put the two together.
        Since Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, I really don’t care what decisions a woman makes about her pregnancy. I do object strongly that I should have to pay for her choices!

  80. Linda Szymanski4 years ago

    On a personal basis, I believe that aborting a child is wrong- I believe it is murder- I do not see how it can be called anything else. I do, however, believe that abortion does not have to be the “go to solution” for birth control, when educating our young teenagers and adults as to the responsibility of having sex, the very real possibility of conception and the resulting baby that will enter their lives as a result. I firmly believe that bringing up awareness, instilling personal responsibility and making it less than easy to get an abortion, will help to curb the behavior and irresponsibility of this age group. I do think that abortion should be available as the result of rape and threat to the mother’s life. Once again, our government is trying to control everything and in the end we alone are responsible for our actions and the results of those actions, even if everything is made legal, if we believe in God and His laws, we are indeed responsible for our actions. Legalizing something does not make it right, but it does remove the constant focus on battling this and other issues of a moral contest and allows us to turn our attentions to things the government CAN help us make better and more equitable- such as the creation of jobs and creating a favorable economic atmosphere in which to create and support these jobs. Also demanding higher accountability from our nation’s parents and our educational system that is WAY behind on a world basis. THAT is the purpose of government- not to be our conscious, but to offer support and opportunity with productive policy and standards.

  81. Susan4 years ago

    For those that truly believe life begins at inception is it not TWO people that come into the equation and question as to the decision to have an abortion. “The mother has the right to choose for herself” but what about the second life in this equation where does his or her right come in.

  82. Mike lipscomb4 years ago

    I wonder what the connection between Wade v Roe in 1973 and the halving of our National Crime rate 20 years later have to each other.
    I see it as aborting babies that are unwanted . It keeps those unwanted babies from being raised as unwanted children that don’t get proper nurture and grow up as predatators that don’t have normal feelings of love and empathy for others and become our street criminals. If the Evangical Right want to stop abortions, they have to be willing to correct the circumstances of young resentful mothers or parents though proper child care, family counseling, and financial aid in helping the young mothers gain a more fulfilling life so they can nurture their child they didn’t want.

  83. Jean Mundell4 years ago

    “There’s a difference between what Americans think should be legal and what they think is moral.” Sadly, in a country that supports separation of church and state, religious morals/beliefs are increasingly used to create laws that impose their moral beliefs on all, taking away the moral choices of the rest.

    1. george4 years ago

      Moral beliefs are not the sole preserve of religious people. Abortion is wrong, except in the most limited of circumstances. It is never acceptable for social reasons.

    2. Joe4 years ago

      Murder is just as much a legal issue as it is a moral issue !! Everyone knows this, but those who are selfish choose to ignore that fact !!

  84. Joan4 years ago

    Why is adoption not stressed more? I used to have a bumper sticker “Adoption not Abortion” but I never see any nor hear anything like that now. it is only abortion. In my 90-plus years I’ve learned there has always been and always will be women who choose abortion sad to say. I do not believe in criminalizing it, as none of us knows what it would be like to walk in the shoes of someone who finds herself in an unwanted pregnancy, whether thru rape, incest, life-threatening illness of the mother. Let God be the judge.

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  85. Frances Frainaguirre4 years ago

    What percentage of Baptized Catholics support the abortion law? What percent of practicing Catholics support the law? These facts are not included in these statistics!

    1. June4 years ago

      There is a bar graph at bottom right of page – I don’t know how more specific you want it to be (i.e. – are these Catholics baptized?).

  86. Janice4 years ago

    A woman’s right to choose, says it all.

    1. george4 years ago

      A woman’s right to choose not to do what? Have sex or have the child?

    2. Joe4 years ago

      Why should a woman have the right to choose the death of another human being ? That’s called “murder” according to the laws of the U. S. !

    3. SGK4 years ago

      You mean a woman’s “right” to take a life.

  87. JR4 years ago

    The only way we will really know how the nation feels about abortion is to hold a nation wide vote, instead of asking a few thousand random participants on their opinion. That is what irritates me about so-called “statistics”, as they apply to only a handful of people vs. the entire country.

    1. fire14 years ago

      We DO know how the nation feels on a multitude of topics through SCIENTIFIC polling. That is the meaning of statistics – they are real, not “so-called”.

      Please read the background materials thoughtfully provided by the Pew Research site. Correctly sampled and bias-neutral survey questions reliably predict the total population opinion. That’s also why Nate Silver and his recently sold blog fivethirtyeight.com correctly predicted multitudes of political races and issue outcomes when the faux news commentators were putting on happy faces before their gloom after the last national elections. Wishin’ just don’t make it so!

    2. Williams Katherine4 years ago

      Unfortunately,what the nation “feels” is irrelevant to the law – and a national referendum is a truly appalling and disgusting suggestion. We should vote on taking the right to live away from women? Because regardless of what you “feel,” thousands of women die, every single day, due to pregnancy and childbirth.

      Also, you have confused statistics with polling data. An independent poll (like Pew) gathers info from demographics of people who match the general census data of the nation, and try to gather the general consensus by comparing results of that data.

      Statistical modeling, is gathering data and trying to determine facts and information from that analysis. For instance, it’s a poll result, that 63% of American’s believe that Roe v. Wade functions as it is written. It’s a statistic, that 99% of the world Maternal Mortality rate, takes place in “First World” nations, or that for every 100,000 pregnancies, 15-30 women will die. Statistics tell us what is – polls tell us what people THINK is. And I would prefer if laws continued to reflect statistics and scientific facts, over people’s emotional attitudes.

      1. SGK4 years ago

        Williams Katherine asks “We should vote on taking the right to live away from women?” No. Women should have the right to kill their unborn children!

      2. william3 years ago

        W. Katherine, “thousands of women die every day…..” is a statistic you cited. From whence did that gem emanate? The remainder of your discussion about statistics seems to be based on facts, too bad you preceded it with unsupported rhetoric and tainted the discussion.

  88. Paul4 years ago

    The U.S. Supreme Court, in Roe v. Wade decided that life begins at the end of the first trimester and no being should be aborted after that term (with few exceptions). Now Texas has determined that life begins at conception and no abort should be permitted in any case. Some people are trying to establish that life begins when the putative parents have amorous thoughts and therefor contraception should not be permitted, especially the ‘morning-after’ pill. Where will it all end?

    1. Williams Katherine4 years ago

      Technically, Roe v. Wade asserts that the rights of the fetus do not begin at all – over the rights to privacy of the mother – until after the first trimester. Life is not defined as beginning at any particular point, in Roe v. Wade, and the justices did agree that viability takes place close to the end of the second trimester, and is a an equally valid (and potentially equally arbitrary) cut off for completely unrestricted access to abortion.

      “…the Court stated that during the first trimester, when the procedure is more safe than childbirth, the decision to abort must be left to the mother and her physician. The State has the right to intervene prior to fetal viability only to protect the health of the mother, and may regulate the procedure after viability so long as there is always an exception for preserving maternal health.”

      But your overall point is entirely accurate – Roe v. Wade already places all the necessary restrictions on abortion, that could potentially lead to an abortion ending a viable fetus. It’s the ultimate case of – if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

  89. Robert Reinsel4 years ago

    Abortion may be morally wrong in most cases. That is no reason to criminalize it or to make criminals out of those that have abortions or those who provide abortions. Those who have abortions must live with the fact of what they did.

    1. BOB C4 years ago

      You are dead right, My Mother rest her soul had an abortion early in life ( in her early twenties ) and carried the guilt and remorse for the rest of her tormented life .

    2. Joe4 years ago

      It is already “criminalized” — it’s called “murder.” The fact that the Supreme Court has refused to acknowledge it as such doesn’t change the definition of murder. If a human being with a beating heart and a functioning brain who has done nothing wrong is purposely killed, that is murder regardless of what a court says.

  90. Mikki Mack4 years ago

    I find it interesting that those in the Southern states who are against abortion, are also states that have the highest number of teenagers drop out of high school, have the highest number of teen pregnancies, have the highest number of obese residents. Is there a lack of education, knowledge, and understanding on pregnancy, contraception, and an over-all lack of understanding about conception and sex?

  91. Mikki Mack4 years ago

    What I find interesting, is that the states that are mostly against abortion, are also states that have the highest teen pregnancies, highest high school teen drop-out rate, and the highest obesity rates – is there a connection with lack of education, knowledge, understanding, etc.?

  92. 84% of americans want abortion restricted. Only 9 percent want abortion unrestricted.4 years ago

    You might take this new poll into account, to rethink the statistics you claim.

    The title is:
    “New poll: 62% Americans see abortion as ‘morally wrong’, 84% support restrictions”

    It is from a pro life site. But it deserves investigation, considering it is so opposite to your interpretation isn’t it? In that it’s conclusion is most people want abortion restricted more than currently, and they are not happy with the situation as it is. And are not happy with the idea of promoting abortion, instead of the acknowledgement and valueing of human life either.
    They see that the majority of americans see abortion as morally wrong. But more importantly, 84% want restrictions of some sort on abortion.
    I am sure you know too, that the majority of people want restrictions on abortion, and not abortion free and without limits. But you choose to say they want it legal in most or all cases. They may want it not totally illegal, but the fact is the majority want it restricted and to at least around the first trimester. And that wish for restriction is getting to a more and more early time in pregnancy, each year. As medical knowledge about the embryo and fetus improves. And awareness of the public (so slowly) gets to know any of those facts that favour a child’s life rather than killing it.


    Which as we can see, your questions are of course tainted by the way you want to ask the question, and group the answers, and interpret them.
    To say that most support abortion being legal in most cases. Without mentioning that most want it to be “restricted in most cases”, and think it is bad and is killing a life, and shouldn’t be promoted, and that education should be promoted showing that life should be valued.

    I mean. if a majority say abortion should be legal in nearly all cases. But restricted in nearly all cases, except for honest risk to the mother’s health.
    Isn’t the most important fact, in this debate where currently abortion can’t be made illegal, and the pro abortionists are trying to prevent laws that even allow it to be restricted. That the majority of americans do want it restricted in most cases except for honest risk to the mother’s health.

    But you only report, a majority say abortion should be legal in nearly all cases. You are ommitting the most important part, that they want abortion restricted, and that they think it is not a good thing to encourage abortion and to deny the right to life of the human life in the womb.

    The poll in the link I gave above, says:
    “Only 9 percent believe that abortion should be available to a woman any time she wants one during her entire pregnancy.”
    But 84% support restrictions on abortion.
    62% say abortion is morally wrong.
    58% of strongly pro choice americans want abortion restricted.

    1. Williams Katherine4 years ago

      “It is from a pro life site. But it deserves investigation, considering it is so opposite to your interpretation isn’t it?:”

      And here, is the crux of the problem with your entire argument. Something giving opposite results, does NOT mean it is a reliable source. You have to look at the factors that make the poll unbiased, and the effort of the source, to report the findings without interpreting them falsely. A poll on a pro-life site is not automatically going to be biased, but THAT’S what makes it data worth considering – how hard the site works to make sure the data is untarnished, not the fact that it says something opposite to what other data says. In fact saying that your results show the exact opposite of a nationally recognized independent polling group, like Pew, is not a strong indicator that your data is unbiased.

      And the poll, was actually sponsored by the Knights of Columbus and run by Maris – whose methods I think need serious consideration…

      “Respondents in the household were selected by asking for the youngest male.”

      How exactly is that creating a viable statistical model?

      Additionally, the questions you mention are incredibly vague and misleading. By all rights, every person who said that abortion should be restricted, could ALSO believe that it’s already restricted more than enough, and that it was adequately restricted under Roe v. Wade, BEFORE others started trying to tack on additional restrictions.

      I suggest you stop assuming that, just because you take a moral position that you think is popular, you don’t trust every random poll that agrees with you, and you argue that the poll Pew conducted is flawed – based on evidence – if you think their numbers are in accurate.

      1. SGK4 years ago

        Those of you responding to Williams Katherine are wasting your time. Her mind is made up and viewpoints other than hers are just nonsense.

  93. Will any media ever write about abortion, and say pro life is normal and preferable to abortion. How amazingly strange that life is never defended by the state and media powers of the world.4 years ago

    And most of the people who support abortion , or choice to kill, do so because of propaganda.
    Of which the western world media almost unanimously is pro abortion.
    Including this article. Which talks about guttmacher supporting abortion rights (There is no right to abortion. There is only a right to life. Which makes a right to abortion impossible), instead of just saying guttmacher support abortion. Because it is their business which makes their ally planned parenthood millions or billions of dollars.

    The only reason most people claim to be pro choice or think abortion is acceptable. Is because they don’t have any education about it, and they do not think about it very hard. And they certainly don’t think about the life of the human being which abortion kills. These people are just lazy thinkers or do not think about the issue at all. And they accept the view that is taught to them by the schools and media, which is abortion is good. And they have no human rights education or education such as doctors and nurses have, that life should be protected, not ended intentionally.

    Abortion (or acceptance of choice to abort) has moderate support only because of an intentional lack of education for truth about fetal development on the part of western states, and even about human rights and the right to life. Or to educate for protecting life, instead of favouring abortion. The people are just thinking what they are socially engineered to think.
    Which is to support abortion, because it kills human beings, as wanted by the eugenics movement. And it is a business which makes money from ending the lives of human beings on a mass scale, and for promoting the view that those lifes are without value. Honestly is it any different than the holocaust frame of mind?

    The latin american countries and countries which have less of an anti religion lobby, shame the USA state, and western states, on public education about fetal development, and human rights especially the right of every human being to life, and the obligation to protect life and never to intentionally end it.

    Almost all people who are pro life support the pro life position because they know the truth, that every human life is equal and has the right to life.

    And no state has the right to legalise the killing of life.
    And even less any right to legalise killing of life, and promote it on a mass scale such as the USA does, in the USA, as well as also trying to spread it around the world, because of the disgusting population control agenda of individuals who love themselves and value their life above others. But who dehumanise others, and try to encourage them to be killed. Again it is an exact reminder and type of inhumanity and abhorrence of the holocaust.
    The only worse thing is, the legalising and promoting of abortion by the USA, since roe vs wade, has led to over 55 million human beings killed in the womb intentionally legally in the USA, and over 1 billion in the world since 1980, largely because of the USA efforts to make abortion accepted, and calling it a right, and denying it as killing a human life, or denying that life any right to life. Just like the victims of the holocaust were denied right to life, because they were considered not equal humans to the ones who are controlling the killing and wanting to increase the killing.

    And the propaganda, that socially engineers people to be so unaware of the truth, and to be too lazy to think about the truth. Has to have huge amounts of billions of money and media control put into educating people into this belief that abortion is normal and even good.
    Compared to the idea that every human life is equal and has a right to be protected, as declared in the universal declaration of human rights, after the killing of the holocaust and world war 2, which taught people of that generation and the whole of humanity, a lesson. That every human life has to be protected. And intentional killing is never something that can be accepted as legal.

    And as ignored by the main powers of the world for the last several decades especially in the case of the USA and roe vs wade which allowed killing human beings in the womb legally and for any reason. And without even education to promote protecting life, as being preferable to an abortion.

    Life is the human right of every life, it is beyond even laws. It should be in our moral conscience. But failing that due to the existence of sociopaths who don’t care about morality or human life, there are the human rights conventions, which make it law to protect right to life. The states including the USA are bound to protect life, and abortion is illegal by these international binding human rights conventions. But why isn’t anyone carrying out prosecution and punishment and forcing compliance to the existing laws protecting life?
    Power has corrupted all those who fail to do protect life. And who allow laws legalising aboriton.

    Laws legalising abortion cannot last forever, because they do not make any sense, when compared with the natural right to life, and the binding laws protecting it.

    1. Williams Katherine4 years ago

      First of all, tune into Fox News and other conservative news outlets, and you’ll find plenty of people who share your positions. Just because more of the media disagrees with you, doesn’t make it skewed – especially when poll after poll indicates that the bulk of the population doesn’t agree with you. There are still press outlets that agree with segregation and men having social dominion over women – it doesn’t make any of those positions morally superior to the rest of the media.

      Second, killing is your word, and it’s hyperbolic as hell. If you want your position – and your moral superiority – to be taken seriously, I suggest you use language that isn’t blatantly manipulated and inflammatory.

      Most people who do not agree with your clearly uninformed opinions about abortion, do NOT do so based on propaganda. Their position is based on the scientific understanding, that human life does NOT exist the second a sperm inseminates an egg, but instead begins near the point of viability, when synaptic brain function begins, and the fetus is first capable of living outside of the mother’s body. A brain dead person is no longer a person – by that same token, a collection of cells which does not yet have brain function, is not yet a person.

      If you don’t agree with at what point life begins, that’s your prerogative – but it is a completely and utter LIE, to state that pre viable zygotes and fetuses do have synaptic brain function, or that those who support a woman’s right to make her own medical decisions, are making that fact up just to justify ‘killing babies’. And NO abortion takes place after viability – because that’s one of the rules already IN Roe v. Wade, which most people agree makes it a great judicial decision. If a fetus is considered viable, and the mother’s life is in danger, the fetus is delivered and they attempt to save it. Roe v. Wade already gives the fetus more rights, as it approaches viability, and before that protects the mother’s rights first.

      Additionally – a WOMAN has as much right to life as a viable fetus, and before viability a LIVE WOMAN has MORE right to LIFE, than a zygote (which is the state of most aborted pregnancies). Abortion is a right, because pregnancy can end a woman’s life – and regardless of your opinions on the subject, she has a right to life too.

      ONE WOMAN A MINUTE dies in this world, due to complications from pregnancy and childbirth. That is NOT propaganda, it is a fact – and it’s been a fact in every legitimate review of the data for more than a decade. If you were educated on how pregnancy works, you would also know that for every one woman who dies, 20 more suffer injury, infection or disease, which can cause chronic issues and death, years later. You would also know, that many women who seek abortions are already parents – and if you force those women to carry a pregnancy they do not want, to term, you are potentially killing that woman and destroying an existing family. And that IS killing. Because you are forcing a condition on a living and thinking being, which has a potential to terminate her life, against her will.

      You can tell yourself, until you’re blue in the face, that pregnancy is a benign condition that isn’t really dangerous to women, and that right to life exists first with the mass of cells that is a POTENTIAL LIFE over the woman who is an EXISTING LIFE. You can tell yourself that deep down, we all agree that life begins at conception, and abortion is killing life, instead of preventing it from becoming a life. You can speak, all you like, about how a fetus’ right to life exists, while a woman’s right to protect her own life with a medical procedure, is murder…

      But why don’t you try telling it to family’s of the 10 women who died, in the time it took me to write this? Tell them that your perceptions of conception are the only RIGHT ones – even though they’re clearly not based on science or legitimate statistics about death and human suffering – and are more important than the lives of the women they lost. Somehow, I don’t think they’ll give a damn about your misguided moral outrage, or agree that killing and harming WOMEN is preferable, to providing access to all medical forms of birth control.

      1. SGK4 years ago

        Abortion is not killing a life. No — it’s just having a wart removed. If the life is not growing, what makes removing it necessary?

        1. Romans Road2 years ago

          An unborn baby is a unique life, with a distinct genetic design and an individual little life. Removing a wart destroys non-essential cells. Removing a baby requires destroying cells essential for life, such as the brain etc…

          Abortion is a killing unique human life.

        2. Anonymous1 year ago

          A wart? Wow, what a cruel comment.

      2. Anonymous6 months ago

        Thank you!! Beautifully stated!!

    2. Victoria Fleischer4 years ago

      You can keep your sense of morality, I’ll take care of mine and yes, I am a humanist. I was also raised in an educated household so I would question your position that women (and I use women purposely cause it really is about them) aren’t educated about and don’t understand it. Abortion is ugly, absolutely ugly and of the many women I know who have had them, I have never met one who didn’t take it seriously and understood the consequences of their actions. Legal abortion has support because we recognize the value of the woman dealing with pregnancy, we have collective memory of the horrors of illegal abortion and don’t wish that upon anyone. You can make all the laws you want against it but that won’t make it go away, it just forces women to take drastic actions. You can sermonize all you want about the sanctity of life, which I always find ironic when I read about children being killed by the adults responsible for them, people killing each other with guns daily and governments that wage wars that kill their own people. After my abortion, I had four children in a committed marriage. After experiencing birth I understood even more what my actions meant. I am not proud, I am not “happy” with my abortion. But I am grateful that I had the option to have a legal, safe abortion. I am very grateful that I had a chance at the life I wanted. And after giving birth, there is absolutely no way I could ever give a baby up for adoption. So the lives we are protecting are those of the women already here.

      1. Romans Road2 years ago

        abortion is killing an innocent human.

      2. Anonymous6 months ago

        I totally agree. Women have been having abortions for millennia and will continue to do so whether it is legal or not.

    3. Joe4 years ago

      I really enjoyed reading your comment, you are one of the ones who see the problem. God Bless.

    4. Joe4 years ago

      Outstanding points !! Thank you !!